WBB Peter Witt, will it run on EZ Streets?

My WBB Peter Witt operates just fine on the wide radius EZ Street trackage.

Lee

Thanks Lee, any experience on the small curve?

I tried them on SuperStreets when they first came out.  Operated okay on the D21 curves, but with some slowing in curves, and operated poorly on the D16s.

Aside from very short wheelbase vehicles, I haven't had a whole lot of success with the D16 curves and don't even use them much anymore.  On the D21s, the smoothest operating trolley I've found to date is the MTH PCC car with PS2.  When to comes to traction items, I'm not too fond of cars that slow down noticeably on curves, and the PCCs negotiate those curves with virtually no hesitation.

Thanks Allan, I was expecting that. I have a variety of trolleys but not the PCC.

I want to run cars and trucks too, so I think they will get the D16 curves. I now can plan a design while waiting for the track to arrive. I'm going to put some on my next door layout, and also on our large permanent club layout. It's a nice product.

The D-21 curves actually scale down to 37 ft. radius (center line).  If you've ever seen real streetcars on a 37 ft. curve, they also struggle and slow down.  So your model's doing that is completely realistic.

Lee

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The D-21 curves actually scale down to 37 ft. radius (center line).  If you've ever seen real streetcars on a 37 ft. curve, they also struggle and slow down.  So your model's doing that is completely realistic.

Yeah, just another case of different strokes for different folks.  I'm just partial to having things run fairly smoothly, and in the modeled world those hesitations on curves become even more obvious.

Besides the plastic people graze their knees and get bruised.

Not having attempted this one yet, but planning to, which is why I bought my Toronto PCC and DeWitt, is the slowdown, major, ie to the point of stall, or just noticable?  IS it clearly the case this is too tight?

Can anyone post a vid on this? I'm just about to the point of buying, and this is a great thread if it can prevent me making a mistake. 

These cars were Peter Witts named for the Commisioner in Cleveland who developed the pay as you pass  fare collection concept.

 DeWitt Clinton was the Governor of New York State who fathered the Erie Canal.

Spell Checker on Ipad got the best of me ... too funny.  Yes Peter Witt.  Now that's taken care of, can someone answer the real question?

Sorry for replying at such a late date but I just found this thread.  I run my Peter Witt on D16 SS with good success.  Sure you've got to take it slower just as the proto did.  Here's a pic of a return transfer loop in Baltimore to give you an idea of just how tight they were. I have fond memories of riding that PCC around that loop (The Junction) many times as a kid.

Here is a video of the Peter Witt cars on 16" diameter Superstreets curves:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEoPU9pxQk8

I think the 16" causes too much slowdown--sadly, our models don't have the mass of the big ones, so this sort of thing isn't replicated well in model railroading.

Jeff C

I agree!  And that model in the video was running pretty fast.  I imagine it would stall on those curves if operated at a slow speed on the straight sections (in fact, I know this to be true because I've tried it myself).

The Peter Witts perform quite well on the D21 curves, and I only hope that someday WBB will offer even wider-diameter curves (not to mention some switches).

The Lionel streetcars that are just a shade under 7" should run fine on the D16? Like the Lionel Christmas Trolley?

I was on the WIlliams website last night and noticed that they show track for sale on there called EZ streets.  Did not notice if it was available yet.  But they do show the D21 curves that have been hard to get for a while now.

For those of you who have run the bigger two truck trolleys on EZ Streets: Have any of you had trouble with running multiple trolleys and have them side swipe each other? I set up a dog bone loop with offset reverse loops at each end. When the cars exit the reverse loop back to the straightaway, they overhang into the other side considerably. I see collisions and drug tests as real possibilities. To prevent the occurrence, I can increase the distance between the parallel tracks on the straightaway, but only in 2.5" increments. That makes the street wider than I want.

Ideas?

Chris

LVHR

There is a way to make the reverse curves that there is a spacing of about 5/8" between the tracks.  I then instert a 3/16" thick, 5/8" spacer to fill the gap.

Lee Carlson