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Originally Posted by Chugman:

If I expand the time frame up to 1971 how many additional switchers and road switchers do I get?  When did the GP-20's & GP-38's start?  Did Milwaukee run these?

 

I want to run pre-Amtrak passenger trains and freight diesels up to that time frame.

 

Art

I don't recall the Mil Road ever having GP20 model units, which came out about 1958 or 1959.  I can't remember if the Mil Road purchased GP38 models, or GP38-2 models. I suggest that you google that complete diesel roster for the Mil Road, as it will tell you model by model when they were delivered PLUS when they were disposed of.

 

Also, please note that EMD diesel model names do NOT have a "dash" in them, i.e. it is GP20 and NOT "GP-20", etc.. It will make it easier for you to look up unit rosters.

1.  The MILW used the GP20 designation for the GP's that their shops rebuilt with a chopped nose, db removed [ usually -- in some cases removed but the db blister retained, check for the fan ], etc;  many of these received EMD-style GP20 labels the MILW purchased and installed at the front corners, a la EMD.

 

2.  If you want a "signature switcher"for the MILW in the late '60s:

   MILW swapped the Blunt trucks from Alco switchers with the road trucks from RS3's;  the resulting switchers were trade-ins, and the trucks could be recycled under new power, while the RS3's, derated to 1200 hp and reclassed as ARS12's, were then used as switchers.

 

Best, SZ

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