WHAT is the difference between TMCC and Legacy?

@Raven87 posted:

So meaning that unless your engines are not blue tooth equipped then you still need a base right?

But if you have BT legacy locomotives you don’t need a base?

BT engines today don't need a Base. A bluetooth remote/app can interact with the engines today and tomorrow. At least in the current app available today, not all engines features might be available. I'm not sure if those become available with the new Cab3 app communicating to the same engine via BT.

@gunrunnerjohn said : "...What seems pretty clear is whatever WiFi capability we now have for the current Legacy/WiFi app setup is what we're going to live with.  One more reason for me to prefer physical remotes that don't stop working when the phone manufacturer decides to change something in the phone software interface...."

A big plus one on that.  On a similar note, all my connected services in my car stopped working when the phonecos dropped 3G.  My manufacturer did not make this model have an upgrade from 3G to 4G.  The previous series of my model were able to upgrade from 2G to 3G (I know since I had one).  I guess they want people to buy new cars, which I'll have to do eventually, but it won't be their model..

@Raven87 posted:

The Cab3 app can’t control switches without a base right?

That is a big factor there.

Correct. The CAB3 app in Bluetooth mode can only run engines.

I guess we’ve been overdue for a thread complaining about remotes and apps.

Glad there is still some good information being conveyed though.

@MartyE posted:

I guess we’ve been overdue for a thread complaining about remotes and apps.

Not to worry Marty, we can pick up that slack!

@gunrunnerjohn posted:

Not to worry Marty, we can pick up that slack!

I have no doubts.

@MartyE posted:

I guess we’ve been overdue for a thread complaining about remotes and apps.

I see most of these questions being folks trying to figure out the pros/cons of the options and what they need to consider based on their current equipment.

I did download the Cab 3 App. I do like the appearance but I see no advantage for my layout without a base to be able to control everything and especially switches.

For smaller non switchable layouts it looks better than the Lionchief app so that’s a plus. I used the LC app on the single BT equipped engine in the starter set I began with and it was ok  

Change is hard enough when you have no choice! For now I’m good  😁

@David_NJ posted:

I see most of these questions being folks trying to figure out the pros/cons of the options and what they need to consider based on their current equipment.

The keyword being most.

@Raven87 posted:

I did download the Cab 3 App. I do like the appearance but I see no advantage for my layout without a base to be able to control everything and especially switches.

For smaller non switchable layouts it looks better than the Lionchief app so that’s a plus. I used the LC app on the single BT equipped engine in the starter set I began with and it was ok  

Change is hard enough when you have no choice! For now I’m good  😁

Where did you download it from?  It's not available yet.

I did a search on the App Store for C3. This is what downloaded -  isn’t this it?

it did say Lionel iCab so maybe not?

That looks like the old iCab app.

Ah. The App Store brought it up under the search for C3. My bad.

@MartyE posted:

Dave explains this in the Virtual Legacy Users Group.  The video below starts at the 53:26 mark right before we discuss this.

@MartyE posted:

It being free has nothing to do with it not working with a Legacy Base and LCS WiFi.  Dave explained the reasoning as it just became to incompatible as development went on.  He doesn't rule out that may change.

That it very disappointing. After they announced the the Cab3 App and that it would be available for purchase, I bought a LCS Wi-Fi module.

I guess that was money down the drain.