Very nice, Joe
Very nice, Joe
You only have to buy them once, unless you like to derail your tank cars onto a bare concrete floor. Buying them only one time them spreading the cost out over a decade and taking into account the rarity, $70-$90 per car in a 9 car train is not high priced. The TankTrain tank cars could have been entirely made out of aluminum, brass, & zinc, and even higher priced.
Andrew
Falcon Service
quote:Originally posted by falconservice:
What is needed is a production run of the 1977 GATX TankTrain scheme with all of the paint colors faded or lightened to make them look the real cars after 20 years of exposure to the elements.
Andrew
Falcon Service
What is REALLY needed is a production run of the 1977 GATX TankTrain scheme UNWEATHERED.
Is Lionel going to have any more of these in the new catalog??
I don't think they presently do business with the contrator who made them ...
I would like a LOT MORE OF THE TANK TRAIN CARS IN THE WHITE CN.
Why has Kader or Sanda Kan not put the O Scale GATX Tank Train tank cars into production for the Bachmann lines since their model train factory was the one in China to originally produce the Tank Trains for Lionel? That production would fill the void in the market for modern freight cars.
They have another GATX CN paint scheme to produce with several variations in number series and graphics.
It would also be great to see the variations that are bright white with large black TankTrain graphics.
Andrew
Falcon Service
I want more Tanktrain/Gatx cars from Lionel! Its time for them to brink them out again.
I just looked at the new catalog online at Ro. I see a lot of tank cars!!!!!
I like the looks of the auto cars too.
Joe I agree those TT cars look good to me. I need to add a few more of the CN TT CARS.
i ALSO want to add some of those 24" CN AND GTW Auto Racks.The 60' CN AND GT Boxcars look very nice. Wow where I am going to run all these. Got to add another loop or two. lol lol
The problem is the manufacturer that made the cars in the original runs is no longer in business so the new ones may not match. I hope they do as I'd like more of the white CN ones to add to my set
Look Bill, you may get enough to make this train:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AlaazitBBc&NR=1&feature=endscreen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXpAfFezSNE
or we can just watch Tommie Z's!!!
(Maybe he'll sell out)
hope to pick up the tanks from a set break up.
Joe the TT at ther Rail crossing had about 68 cars while the one over the bridge has about 50. I can run those size TT trains in CN now. I want to run a 100 car CN Tank Train to my refinery.
The Videos were were GREAT, Did Tom Z have the white CN Tank Train or the Black TT?
Lionel makes a very small amount of these cars each production run.
If you want 100 tank cars then you have to get a special run of 500 cars made.
Andrew
I was disappointed that MTH hasn't come out with some 6 car sets of the GATX 28-30K gallon tank cars. I believe right now there are about 30, 100 car sets of tank cars running out of North Dakota and Montana. Mostly leased cars with many more on order. I want a unit train of modern tank cars....
Lionel makes a very small amount of these cars each production run.
If you want 100 tank cars then you have to get a special run of 500 cars made.
Andrew
Andrew I have been lucky enough to find more than 50 of the CN Tank Train Cars so I am closing in on a GOOD SIZE UNIT TRAIN of them. Some of the Lionel dealers in the past had ordered very large qunites of the Engine and cars box sets and I have a few of those but they also had a lot of the add on's and I was able to locate some of then also. I was not going to pay those crazy prices on eBay and decidwd to wait for a new run of them.
I was disappointed that MTH hasn't come out with some 6 car sets of the GATX 28-30K gallon tank cars. I believe right now there are about 30, 100 car sets of tank cars running out of North Dakota and Montana. Mostly leased cars with many more on order. I want a unit train of modern tank cars....
kg I had some of the MTH smaller TT cars but decided to concentrate on Lionel TT cars. Joe posted those nice video's above of the CN TT unit trains. One of them was hard to get a good count on because they moved the shot around so much. But the rail crossing unit train was a good one to count.
The Coal Unit trains I see here in Michigan being hauled by BNSF seem to run around 135 cars with 2 engines on point and a helper either in the middle or at the end. I also like the Lionel CN bathtub gondolas and have a SOME of the MTH CN Coal Porters.
Andrew do you see those BNSF COAL UNIT trains running on the CN main line down your way also?
The problem is the manufacturer that made the cars in the original runs is no longer in business so the new ones may not match. ...
Possible... but more than likely this is FUD (I.e, commonly referred to as fear, uncertainty and doubt in the computer industry years ago). Owners of the earlier cars will promote this in hopes of keeping prices of their wares in the stratosphere.
By the looks of things, recent asking prices on the Bay for these items haven't budged a bit. So there's nothing more I'd like to see than than to have the new cars equal the older cars in quality and detail levels... at roughly HALF the price of the eBay scheiksters.
That would be a big win for toy train enthusiasts.
David
JOE WHICH TANK TRAIN CARS DID YOU ORDER? I know I would kine somemore of the White CN TT cars. I think I have enough of the CIBRO But could use a few more of the black body GATX both Orange and White and all White lettering.
Well, I have to think about it...
I had the black tank train w/ white lettering on order which arrived. I got a Cibro single sitting here, it was used. I've got a CN, used. I've got a set of CN's on order. I see 7 on the rails (3 org and wh TT, 3 eth w/ sound, and a CN) already....nope, not nearly what you've got I bet!! I started drifting and buying their ctr fl hoppers and mech reefers too. Most are still in boxes. I ran into a deal on 8 Atlas ctr fl hoppers still in boxes too. It's getting so crowded under there. I feel like I'm hoarding them? I'd better stop ordering for a while. At least until I get enough tracks laid to run the ones I bought.
It's cool that Lionel is releasing these. Just so many cars at once is too tough, and of course there's the other scales coming in too.
http://www.usatrains.com/usatrainsmoderntank.html
http://www.usatrains.com/usatrains42moderntank.html
http://www.usatrains.com/usatrainsbeercantank.html
I'd like to take a G gauge set, and make it look like the tank train ones.
and of course at the same time:
http://www.usatrains.com/usatrainsbilevel.html
Urggg
Joe sounds like you are headed to a fleet of TT Cars. I thought that when Lionel released the Black bodie TT cars with all white letters they did it with a NS set, Wonder if there maybe a heritage possibility still comming in the TT cars? I am not sure of the number of TT Cars in my fleet but I stopped buying them when the prices.went thru the roof. I figured that Lionel would notice the pricing and release more of them. I was very pleased they have and now that I have my Autoracks I can look into the TT cars. I also like the looks of those GT 4 Bay Aluminum hoppers and they will come after I sort out the TT's to go with all my Oil Refinery needs.I like the idea that they have issued more new car numbers for the TT's
Hmmm, didn't see this one yet?
very nice. I need it!!
I didn't realize how nice these Cibro's are:
I thought they weren't as popular for some reason. I wish I had got more.
Joe the GT 4 bay hopper looks very good but I don't have any yet. I probably buy a couple and see what I think before I by any more of them but I think they will be a very nice addition to my garain car fleet.
The Cibro was a real company on the east coast. O will post more on it in a minute
Popssr - the photo of the coal trucks is from their Brooklyn coal and ice depot located off 38th street by 13th av.. The subway el in the background is the Culver line which at that time ran from Chambers st to Coney Island. Grew up several blocks from there.
Joe G Thanks for adding that info to the thread. I had looked up Cibro some years back and knew there was some history to the name and thought it would be good to post here where thre Tank Train Cars with the Cibro name are shown and discussed.
Popssr - were / are any of these CN tanktrain cars pulled by CP motive power?
Joe I don't know for sure but I could imagine that they were at some point.
Wow, thanks for posting that. I actually had never seen them before seeing the Lionel cars. That's the kind of name that seems familiar though. Ok, now I want them more! Thought maybe it was a west coast name.
Joe when I first read about CIBRO I thought it was kinda cool story. Too bad they had the fire.
I am still doing inventory on the various TT cars and thought while I was doing it I would also count up my Lionel and MTH CN Coal Porters. Might be counting for a while
nicholas smith still has the black and white GATX 6-27412 in stock, i bought one there a couple weeks ago.
http://www.nicholassmithtrains...-TRAIN-INTERMEDIATE/
joe
jOE g HOPE THEY HAD A GOOD PRICE ON IT.
This is my autorack train before I take the Lionels out of their boxes. It'll be half way around the basement. There's also a intermodal train and another one with TOFCs. Then there's all the cars waiting to be two railed. These are some:
Those Atlas ctr flows are 4 packs on the floor with a growing list of Lionels on top. These will be a unit type grain train. The tankers will be some mixed up kind of chemical train?
Then there's the mech reefers I started buying for some kind of fresh produce train. Sheesh. I don't know where you guys put all your cars? I built a yard and it wouldn't hold enough cars the day I finished. I need another yard even bigger. Looks like a second level is going to be a must. I hope these manufacturers don't come up with any more great cars too soon ( like modern mechanical reefers...). I'll have to put another addition on the house for more trackage rights.
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Joe I only have about 4 small yards on the layout. BUT I have all drawn up 5 levels of yards that have direct access to and from the layout. Just leave yourselfgood clearence between decks. Mine are not very wide because I am using a long aisle space arross the basement and figured narrow is a lot better than nothing.
Your Autoracks look cool.I think I have 16 mth Autoracks all CN & GT to go with my 12 new Lionel Autoracks.
Did some totals on the TT's 134 all 4 types & 79 Coal Porters 66 L & 13 MTH
Did some totals on the TT's 134 all 4 types
What??? You sure?? You probably need help counting that high.
wait, that's why there's none left!!! Hmmm 8G worth of TT.
You sure that tunnel borer can't get here faster!!
Joe I did use fingers and toes and it did take a numer of people standing there bare footed
Nah not 8K I have them all on consignment and when I finish playing with them they go back .
Another topic Joe, I have seen several comments on the OGR that people that pre ordered the Autoracks still do not have them and now the dealers are running out of stock. So did they sell the inventory before filling the pre orders?
Hope you called your supplier and asked about your order!
Real GATX TAnkTrain trains are only about 30 to 50 cars long when they come through Michigan.
You need more GTW, CN, and DE diesels if you are going to have all those Tank Cars.
Andrew
A freight train with a GATX TankTrain with the CN logo rolled through over the CN/GTW on September 26th. The actual practice is there are only 17 cars in the section starting from the A end to the B end. Only 17 cars, if you are going over 17 cars from end to end you are not-prototypical, and you are hogging all the TankTrain Cars. Share some of them with the rest of us.
Andrew