Wish list for the next Lionel catalog

What I really want is Lionel to acquire MTH's steam engines and produce the PRR A5.  That I would buy in a heartbeat.

Other than that, I'll keep to models that have already built:

-BN #1876 SD40-2 in Bicentennial colors. To run with Lionel's earlier Legacy BN #1776 U30 release.  This pair actually pulled the American Freedom Train when the steamers were in maintenance, so I think it would be neat to have both for my AFT set.

-The new MoW cars in PRR gray.  They were not painted yellow until the mid-50s, and many stayed gray for a lot longer.

The American Flyer 57' mechanical reefer they cancelled in 2014.

Rusty

@Madockawando posted:

Its never to early to put a bug in Lionel's ear for the upcoming catalogs.

Chances are they already finished 2021 volume 2 so I suspect they'll be looking at 2022 Volume 1 for any ideas.

Very true! So let’s call this the Lionel 2022 volume 1 catalog wish list. 😁

A set of 21 inch PRR congressional passenger cars including the specialty cars with correct interiors

I know this is probably totally unlikely, but LionChief or LionChief+ retrofits.  A TMCC/Legacy to Lionchief bridge device to allow control of older LC and LC+ locos via the cab-1 or cab-2.

Down the road a TMCC/Legacy to TIU bridge to control PS2 and PS3 locos for those who are going to eventually be orphaned by the end of MTH. Even better, find a way to directly control PS2 or PS3 locos without a TIU by making some sort of emulator device.

A LionChief controllable culvert loader and unloader that works from the App and/or the universal remote.

How about a updated postwar Seaboard switcher with LionChief or LionChief +2.0? 

Great ideas! I love where you are going with this Landsteiner.

Big reach but if you don’t reach for the stars....l want Standard Tinplate. C’mon Lionel. Make nice with Mr. Wolf. Even if you don’t sell many of these gems, it makes for a cool catalog and a big showroom draw at shows and LHS like the Corvette accomplishes for Chevrolet dealers.

2 Rail

I want a chessie system sd70ace to go with my b&o sd70ace. I would say a chessie es44, but the fixed pilots would require curves that are too wide for me. I know mth did one a while back, but I would love to see one in Lionel to potentially lash up with the b&o one.

@Landsteiner posted:

I know this is probably totally unlikely, but LionChief or LionChief+ retrofits.  A TMCC/Legacy to Lionchief bridge device to allow control of older LC and LC+ locos via the cab-1 or cab-2.

Down the road a TMCC/Legacy to TIU bridge to control PS2 and PS3 locos for those who are going to eventually be orphaned by the end of MTH. Even better, find a way to directly control PS2 or PS3 locos without a TIU by making some sort of emulator device.

A LionChief controllable culvert loader and unloader that works from the App and/or the universal remote.

How about a updated postwar Seaboard switcher with LionChief or LionChief +2.0?

BINGO!!!

How about some GP9's in Adrian & Blissfield or Black River & Western? The Providence & Worcester paint scheme looks nice too!

Or...

• Scale RS-3 with Legacy (WM or PRR Hammerhead RS-3 too)
• Legacy F3
• Return of the Rail bonder motorized unit
• Flatcar w/ Wedge Plow
• Scale Postwar or Prewar-inspired Legacy train sets
• Porter or Plymouth switchers
• EMD BL2

@Lionel2056 posted:

How about some GP9's in Adrian & Blissfield or Black River & Western? The Providence & Worcester paint scheme looks nice too!

Or...

• Scale RS-3 with Legacy (WM or PRR Hammerhead RS-3 too)
• Legacy F3
• Return of the Rail bonder motorized unit
• Flatcar w/ Wedge Plow
• Scale Postwar or Prewar-inspired Legacy train sets
• Porter or Plymouth switchers
• EMD BL2

Has Lionel ever offered a scale rs3? My first engine was a Christmas rs3, but I’ve never seen a scale rs3 from Lionel, only mth.

here's my wishlist

LC 2.0 GP20

LC2.0 GP38

more tier 4's

updated semi scale s2 turbine

semi scale sd40-2

more types of light up track

lionchief Fortnite train set

ghostbusters train set

ghostbusters fire station with operating ecto 1

Nerf train set complete with nerf dart firing cannon car

Teenage mutant ninja turtles subway set that plays the theme song

GI JOE train set

@Csxcellent posted:

Has Lionel ever offered a scale rs3? My first engine was a Christmas rs3, but I’ve never seen a scale rs3 from Lionel, only mth.

I think they offered one ages ago under 'K-Line by Lionel', but I could be wrong. They were originally K-Line models so its likely not going to happen, but they are sold under the Williams by Bachmann name now. Just would like one with the same level of detail as K-Line or Weaver, but with Legacy.

@Lionel2056 posted:

I think they offered one ages ago under 'K-Line by Lionel', but I could be wrong. They were originally K-Line models so its likely not going to happen, but they are sold under the Williams by Bachmann name now. Just would like one with the same level of detail as K-Line or Weaver, but with Legacy.

If they could get the k-line tooling back, it would be a great fit for lc+2.0. However I can’t see full legacy going into it unless it’s entirely new tooling. If an lc+2.0 is produced in b&o or western Maryland I might be interested.

I would love to see the return of the Legacy 2-6-0 Moguls, they would fit in nicely with the one small steam locomotive Lionel does per catalog (Ten-Wheeler, Camelback, etc.)

• Strasburg 89 comes to mind as one I would like to see made but between the Camelback and SW8 last catalog, that is a lot of Strasburg stuff to release in a short time.

As for diesels I am hoping for another run of the H16-44.

• Hopefully, Nassau hobby would do a custom run of some LIRR units with Lionel.

Lastly, the return of the GLa hoppers, I have two of them and love them!

A rock island gp40 or gp35 in the rout rock blue and white paint scheme. An amtrack seimens charger like the new bachmann model.

Trolley and/or streetcar Legacy or Lionchief 2.0

I’d really like to see one of these....in a true olive-drab, not Kelly green.

@mike.caruso posted:

I’d really like to see one of these....in a true olive-drab, not Kelly green.

I think Canadian Pacific and its subsidiaries will be very popular in the next few Lionel catalogs now that CP is the largest railroad in North America.

I think we are due for a LC+ 2.0 City of Los Angeles UP set.

The SOO LINE PC&F 57' Mechanical Refrigerator cars

Made in the USA LionScale versions

Made in China with opening doors.

Andrew

Subways with doors that open and close on command complete with legacy

Accurate Canadian Pacific and CP Rail insulated box cars and refrigerator cars have yet to be made in the LionScale line and the imported O scale line.

Andrew

The brackets and brakeline details that are missing on the TankTrain cars.

The backs of the brackets need self adhesive film so they can be stuck on the bottom of the TankTrain tank cars.

Andrew

Canadian National CN Piggyback O scale 40' Trailer pairs

Grand Trunk Western REAZ  O scale 40' Trailer pairs

ROCK ISLAND O scale 40' Trailer pairs

SOO LINE 1960's and 1970's schemes on the O scale 40' Trailer pairs

UNION PACIFIC  We can handle it. 1976 scheme on the O scale 40' Trailer pairs.

VERMONT RAILWAY O scale 40' Trailer Pairs

Western Pacific 1970-1980 era schemes on the O scale 40' Trailer pairs.

Andrew

@FJI posted:

A set of 21 inch PRR congressional passenger cars including the specialty cars with correct interiors

TO get the correct window patterns an interiors, it is more likely GGD would do this as potential rerun.  They did them correctly fist time and have the correct extrusion tool for the Congo to do them in aluminum.

Just a simple scale RS3 in DL&W black would make me very happy, in LC+2.0.

Artie

@Csxcellent posted:

Has Lionel ever offered a scale rs3? My first engine was a Christmas rs3, but I’ve never seen a scale rs3 from Lionel, only mth.

The only mass produced close to scale RS3 has been the Weaver version and the Atlas version is a close second. 

To change to the topic and provide a positive contribution, I'd like to see:

• Real 2 rail offerings with fixed pilots and DCC
• Runs of individual 21" cars so we aren't stuck with the traditional 4 car set and a 2 car add-on pack.  The 21" generic Budd style cars are well done for the price point, but it would be nice to be able to add-on some 10-6's and coaches for a longer train.
• A re-run of F40PHs less the quality control issues of the original runs.  Yes, it is a "classic F unit" now, but they did do a nice job with theirs on capturing the details correctly.  For me this locomotive and all the -40 series EMDs are the epitome of quality and Longevity.   
• CNJ Atlantic 592 - the one in the B&O museum.  It pulled the Blue Comet often during the later years and served another 10 years in service.  It is not the same body casting as the overdone 10 wheeler as the steam dome is behind the cab and there is more space between the Wooten firebox and the cab.  The proportions of that one .  Preferably in 2 rail for me on that one.
• CNJ GP40-P.  I would purchase this in at least two to three of the 5 paint schemes it ended up in through NJT and I don't see this coming from anyone else at any time.

Otherwise for now I don't really have anything else on my bucket list that I don't see coming from my preferred manufacturer.

Maersk Legacy intermodal set will husky cars.

O scale Grand Trunk Western Extended-Vision Caboose.

O scale Grand Trunk Western flat car with bulkheads.

GTW 616400-616499 series

O scale Grand Trunk Western double-door 50' box car with end doors repainted in the 1960's paint scheme

Andrew

O scale THE ROCK 89' automobile carrier in the 1975-1980 era paint scheme

example:

https://www.springcreekmodeltr...to-rack-rock-island/

Andrew

It’d be nice to see another run of the Legacy Norfolk & Western Y6b’s (the #2174 and #2190 in particular!) or the Legacy New York City Subway sets

What some people might want, but they have not said it yet is that they would like to get:

O scale models of the Greenbrier/Gunderson MAXI-STACK five-unit, 40' wells intermodal cars in various railroad paint schemes.

Andrew

How about a Legacy F3 in Southern green and white livery.  The last one Lionel offered was back in MPC era (1980's).

I have been hoping since they offered the scale F3's about 18 years ago.

One can hope,

Don

This is a pretty much a repeat of what was on my wish list for 2021 V1 as none of my wishes made the catalog:

- Strasburg 90:  would be nice to finally have in O scale. I don't think this would be as 'niche' of an engine to make as Strasburg is considered one of (if not the) most quintessential tourist railroad in the US. Many have fond memories there and I can see this being a good seller. The MTH SRC coaches sold out in just 2 days at my LHS (they ordered 20+ in addition to preorders). I could see the 8618 and camelback not being the best sellers as many are waiting for 90 as it has been teased here and on other sites.

- PRR P5: (did MTH ever manufacture the ones that they advertised in their 2020 V1 catalog? Haven't seen them advertised on any LHS websites ) I would like someone to produce this again (with or without the MTH tooling), unlikely that it will be Lionel though. Yes, 3rd rail has offered these before but I wasn't as involved in the hobby during their latest offering.

- PRR MP54: an old K-line tooling that Lionel made years ago under the K-line by Lionel name. It would be nice to see these be produced again with some upgrades.

- PRR K4s with short haul tenders: the same ones they did in 2011. Prewar, also not a fan of the long haul tendered ones they have made in the last few years. Given it's been 10 years now, I could see them reissuing this in the not-so-distant future, if not this year.

- PRR M1s (anyone starting to notice a certain theme here?? ): same as they have done in 2014. Like the K4's it's been a while since so I could see these on Lionel's "to-do list".

- I would also be interested in another run of the VL GG1's in a few years (similar to how they did a re-run of the 2-10-10-2's) as they are really nice but hard to find now in the 5 strip DGLE.

Well let’s hope Lionel pays attention! Are you listening Lionel? Lots of good ideas here! 😁

A command control clamshell crane. Intermodal crane. Vision line caboose with sounds and a camera. Legacy New Haven EP-5. Amtrak chargers. Lighthouse. New bascule bridge, swing bridge, lift bridge with a way to make signals work on the approaches.