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60EE15C2-FA9D-4DF1-A3B8-7348CFC533D9A4D6340C-C1E2-48CF-B9AF-E7C903408064I removed one of my Atlas Xpress reefers of a display shelf and found some crumbled pieces and a small spring. Mumbling to myself “got to be more careful with my cars”, tried to see where the pieces were from. The little spring clued me to the trucks. They were broken. Maybe I haven’t been in the “forum” that long, but I’d not seen this with these Xpress cars. They trucks are well done and looked sturdy. I’m guessing it’s “zinc pest” failure. Shape of things to come with my other Xpress cars ? Is this common with These cars ?  Will Atlas have replacements in stock for sale ?

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Maybe it's me. But in all my years with trains i've never seen this condition untill now. Could explain why a lot of train's I find at trainshows have 1or 2 truck's completely missing. But what about fleemarket,yard sales,antique shops,neighbors, friends etc....still no. I've been lucky? Maybe. What I do believe in is over oiling the axles and pivot pin. Then Dad says too much,wipe that off!!! My 1956 2225 and all my rolling stock are so impregnated with sewing machine oil that they looked brand new (stolen in 2017). Since 1996 when I started adding to my collection,I always use the gerase rag and wipe the trucks. Maybe that is the key for preservation. 

 

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Maybe it's me. But in all my years with trains i've never seen this condition untill now. Could explain why a lot of train's I find at trainshows have 1or 2 truck's completely missing. But what about fleemarket,yard sales,antique shops,neighbors, friends etc....still no. I've been lucky? Maybe. What I do believe in is over oiling the axles and pivot pin. Then Dad says too much,wipe that off!!! My 1956 2225 and all my rolling stock are so impregnated with sewing machine oil that they looked brand new (stolen in 2017). Since 1996 when I started adding to my collection,I always use the gerase rag and wipe the trucks. Maybe that is the key for preservation. 

 

Just do a Google search for zinc pest or zinc rot and you’ll learn something. It’s an uncommon problem, but very real and very avoidable if the parts maker does the job right. 

I recently purchased an 072/054 Atlas switch online.  It was not new but, didn't look used either.   Upon taking it out the box parts of the blackened 3rd rail and other parts crumbled into little pieces.  While the seller indicated he had a couple more, (was selling Atlas products) I believe he knew there was  an issue.  I just ate the loss because I didn't feel like dealing with the  aggravation.  This was my 1st experience with the rot issue. 

Subcontractors in China are definitely the problem. The main factory work with suppliers who, according to news reports, often involve small “garage” businesses whose production standards don’t always follow best practices.

What’s unclear is whether the American companies who are working with the primary factory have any control over who that factory deals with. In the case of toy train production, where production might only involve several thousand truck parts at a time, factories may have to depend on smallish suppliers.

I suspect larger manufacturers, like Mattel, have a larger say about factory production. When you are producing millions of Hot Wheels per year, you can do that, however.

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