If anyone can tell me where these parts go let me know please. look at the pictures
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Thanks. It appears there is a screw at one end of the pipe, correct? Finally going to take it out of the box tomorrow. Been extremely busy doing re-modeling & finally finished.
Looks to me like they are steam pipes from under the front of the boiler to help center the boiler and front engine leading out of curves. There was probably a spring attached to the screw.
Seems to be a common problem with this new engine. There were previous threads about it but it looks like they were deleted. Lots of "returns" with this new engine already.
This was a common problem with the Original JLC Version... Mine is broken...
Anyone have a picture of them on. I tell you what if they want to delete this post they can but lord this engine had several issiues .Lionel just created months of work for there service department. Thank god I could repair them. For the price this is simply outrageous .If I put work out like this I wouldn't have a job long.
Bruk posted:This was a common problem with the Original JLC Version... Mine is broken...
The JLC version suffered from brittle die-casting. Some worse then others. Mine was so bad, the smallest die-cast parts, especially the small ones attached to the tender trucks just broke and fell off while sitting on a display shelf... Its an outstanding model, just beautiful.. Loved it but sadly happy to be rid of it.
joe
Sounds very disappointing..I can't believe they made all the wiring In the engine gray no colors it's real easy to mix wires up not colored .
Why don't you quit crying and return it???????
jojofry posted:If anyone can tell me where these parts go let me know please. look at the pictures
ok the second pic with the pipe and screw goes over the smaller diameter pipe in the first pic. First screw has to come out then go through the hole in the walk platform (left side of locomotive ) and screwed back into pipe. Then you have to swing front drive assembly way out and slide the larger pipe over the smaller one. It's a pain. I'd take a pic but had to ship mine back yesterday for brand new warranty repairs
RickO posted:Why don't you quit crying and return it???????
Cause I wanted to keep mine(and I repaired mine) not like you complaining about it and thinking they are gonna change everything .So sorry I wanted a little advise on where the parts came off it go.
jojofry posted:Sounds very disappointing..I can't believe they made all the wiring In the engine gray no colors it's real easy to mix wires up not colored .
You got to be kidding me...?
Sparky74 posted:jojofry posted:If anyone can tell me where these parts go let me know please. look at the pictures
ok the second pic with the pipe and screw goes over the smaller diameter pipe in the first pic. First screw has to come out then go through the hole in the walk platform (left side of locomotive ) and screwed back into pipe. Then you have to swing front drive assembly way out and slide the larger pipe over the smaller one. It's a pain. I'd take a pic but had to ship mine back yesterday for brand new warranty repairs
Thanks please do . Sorry about it broken. My veterans engine was perfect !
Gray ribbon style cables. Actually makes things nice and neat in there.
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Laidoffsick posted:Gray ribbon style cables. Actually makes things nice and neat in there.
Maybe but it means they can plug smoke units in the wrong ports easy.!. I just thought is was weird...
No issues with mine nor the club members that also received them.
The number one issue is QC. Customers who keep buying these expensive locomotives and accepting the issues that keep going on are suckers.
DON'T fix them send them back, only then will learn that QC means something.
I expect the engines I buy to be 100% out of the box. If not back to the dealer for replacement or refund.
david1 posted:The number one issue is QC. Customers who keep buying these expensive locomotives and accepting the issues that keep going on are suckers.
DON'T fix them send them back, only then will learn that QC means something.
I expect the engines I buy to be 100% out of the box. If not back to the dealer for replacement or refund.
Yea that will show them they been having QC issiues for over 5 years they haven't changed anything. . What would show them is if we had other company's making trains besides mth. Anyways I just want to put my parts back on and run my engine . Not waist 4 weeks of my train time or my money to send it back.
Your one of the reasons things are the same. You must hold the manufactures feet to the fire to have the QC we as customers should expect.
I do everything I have to said to any product I buy.
david1 posted:Your one of the reasons things are the same. You must hold the manufactures feet to the fire to have the QC we as customers should expect. I do everything I have to said to any product I buy.
While I understand what your saying but my one engine isnt gonna make a difference . How many times have you bought something from a box store for it to be broken. Customer service is gone so is quality .
Customer service and QC is not gone. You have to demand it.
As I have said before, I demand to get the quality I paid for. If I don't it goes back to the mfg., store or dealer. Our trains are nothing but a consumer product and as a consumer I expect it to be right.
david1 posted:Customer service and QC is not gone. You have to demand it.
As I have said before, I demand to get the quality I paid for. If I don't it goes back to the mfg., store or dealer. Our trains are nothing but a consumer product and as a consumer I expect it to be right.
This isn't 1950 anymore it all about making as many as you can .. We worry about them being good later. Look I am a custom cabinet marker by trade .I decided I try it factory style once .I thought I could make more money ..This factory makes doors for Kraftmade they didn't give a care about quality they wanted there 4000 doors a day .. The doors where falling apart before they could be sanded .I could only imagine how it's in China . So I make custom kitchens for people that want quality as someone that does this it's gone and no one wants to pay either.
My Allegheny is back at Lionel for service. There should be a warning notice in the box about these pivoting pipes. Any pressure on them while removing the engine from the box, may/might/could cause the front sliding piece of piping to break off at the front screw mount to the front drivers. The front piece slides (like a trombone) over the upper pipe (pivoting) fastened to the engine frame. It is a factory repair.
I tried to figure a way to re-install the front pipe, but there wasn't enough pipe left (cracked off vertical portion) for me to fasten it. I DO NOT grab the Allegheny anywhere near the moving piping. I control the swinging front drivers at the very front-end of the engine, with my other hand lifting the engine at mid-body. My piping was cracked already when I received the engine. The four screws and pedestals in the packaging are important to secure the engine during shipping. I would not consider transporting the engine without fastening it back into its packaging shell. Shippers like standing these engines on their ends to conserve floor space in the truck. Lay the engine flat when storing it. If it falls over, the shock could cause damage.
John Rowlen posted:My Allegheny is back at Lionel for service. There should be a warning notice in the box about these pivoting pipes. Any pressure on them while removing the engine from the box, may/might/could cause the front sliding piece of piping to break off at the front screw mount to the front drivers. The front piece slides (like a trombone) over the upper pipe (pivoting) fastened to the engine frame. It is a factory repair.
I tried to figure a way to re-install the front pipe, but there wasn't enough pipe left (cracked off vertical portion) for me to fasten it. I DO NOT grab the Allegheny anywhere near the moving piping. I control the swinging front drivers at the very front-end of the engine, with my other hand lifting the engine at mid-body. My piping was cracked already when I received the engine. The four screws and pedestals in the packaging are important to secure the engine during shipping. I would not consider transporting the engine without fastening it back into its packaging shell. Shippers like standing these engines on their ends to conserve floor space in the truck. Lay the engine flat when storing it. If it falls over, the shock could cause damage.
Hello John Rowlen......
If this was my engine, I would just leave that part off rather to send it back taking the risk of more shipping damages. I have a brass Sunset 3rd 2-10-4 and refuse to ship it anywhere fearing of more damages from shipping. I remembered when we brought it home from Scott Mann's headquarters in 2012 and spend 3 days going through it and found the cow catcher was poorly soldered (it was a return and bad repaired job) so I fixed it with JB weld it is much stronger now. I rather fix it at home than to take chance of risking more damage (If I can). I am just saying that's all.
"But the Helper will teach you everything and cause you to remember all that I told you. This Helper is the Holy Spirit that the Father will send in my name" John 14:26 ERV (Easy to Read Version)
Tiffany
I will say it again..this is a very VERY heavy Locomotive with a LOT of extremely fine intricate detaling.It is almost impossible to handle this Locomotive without ultimately breaking off some pipes and other detail items.JUST WAIT until it comes time to pull the shell off to re do the smoke unit or preform repairs! Unless you can achieve anti-gravity, setting this Locomotive upside down in a foam or carpeted engine cradle will reap HAVOC on its detail items.When you are finished,rest assured, you will be attempting to super glue detail parts back together for two hours.I have been through this.It is incredibly nerve racking.I still claim it is one of Lionel's finest achievements.Nick
jojofry posted:I can't believe they made all the wiring In the engine gray no colors it's real easy to mix wires up not colored .
I released this to the public the other day.
