any New Haven fans ....

New Haven ALCO DL-109 #0719 (MTH Premier model with PS-2) viewed from the south side of my 10’-by-5’ layout.

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MELGAR

MELGAR posted:

New Haven ALCO DL-109 #0719 (MTH Premier model with PS-2) viewed from the south side of my 10’-by-5’ layout.

Photo and video by:

MELGAR

I sure hope someday MTH re-issues the DL-109 in Hunter Green, again....

Peter

Some videos....

Enjoy, New Haven fans!

Peter

Putnam Division posted:

MELGAR posted:

New Haven ALCO DL-109 #0719 (MTH Premier model with PS-2) viewed from the south side of my 10’-by-5’ layout.

Photo and video by:

MELGAR

 

I sure hope someday MTH re-issues the DL-109 in Hunter Green, again....

Peter

 

Since I am strictly a Lionel/Legacy Command Control type, I wish Lionel would do a DL-109 in ANY paint scheme (NH of course)   

Finished my Weaver RS-3 early this morning:

Handrails, grab irons, steam generator stack, wire grill on the hood top, and horns are P&D detail parts. The small steam generator cap (between the horn and the end of the short hood) is made out of bass wood. The cab signal box and generator above it (on the engineers side walkway next to the cab) I desgined and had 3-D printed.

Paint is Scalecoat II, Pullman Green and New Haven Orange. Decals were from an old Microscale sheet.

This is the paint scheme that the first batch of New Haven's RS-3s were delivered in - I choose number 531 as it wore its deliverly paint through its entire career on the New Haven and into Penn Central.

~C.Vigs

These are photos that took on a layout tour during the 2018 NMRA national convention in Kansas City.  This is a HO layout.

I think that the layout builder caught the essence of the NH very well.  NH Joe

This weekends project - making a New Haven 58000 series gondola out of an early AHM model.

The New Haven's 58000 series gondolas were 40' inside length gondolas, with 4 drop doors for ease of unloading. Built in 1929 by the roads own shops, several lasted well into the 1960s in both revenue and MOW service. What has frustrated me for years is that this gonodla series, as well as the nearly identical 42' inside length 60000 series gondolas, have 10 panel sides, which I have not seen in an O-scale model.

For those unaware, alphabetroute.com has excellent diagrams of most of the New Haven's freight and passenger equipment, and is an invaluable resource for modeling New Haven equipment: http://www.alphabetroute.com/nynhh/fd.php

Some prototype photos can be found in this thread, on the forum of the New Haven Railroad Historical and Technical Association: https://www.tapatalk.com/group...c.php?p=91195#p91195

I started with an old AHM model - not sure of the exact year, but cast into the bottom is "Made in West Germany". These are cheap and plentiful online - I purchased 2 for $20 shipped a few months ago.

The AHM model is an 8-panel gondola, but has the correct 40' inside length. I started by sanding the sides flat with a small belt sander, finishing with 220 and then 400 grit sandpaper. In the middle of the sanding process, I like to apply a thin primer coat - this helps highlight any imperfections and rough areas that need further sanding. 

I measured our the locations of the new ribs - one at the centerline of the car, followed by 4 more on each side at 1" spacing (for a 9 rib, 10 panel side). New ribs were made in a two step process - first, a strip of 0.020" thick styrene was cut ~0.180" wide. This was glued onto the car side on the centerline of each rib location. Then, a section of 0.060" square styrene was cut to length, one end chamfered, and then glued on top of and centered on the flat styrene segments to create each rib. Each car end received a section of 0.020" thick styrene cut 0.090" wide.

These cars appear to have a wide brim around the top - much wider than the stock AHM model had. Once again, strips of 0.020" thick styrene were cut side wide enough to be flush with both the inside of the gondola wall, and outside of the ribs. Each was cut 1/8" longer than the length of the car side to overhand each end - I can't give a specific length here the two sides of the same car were slightly different lengths. I confirmed this on the second car I hadn't yet modified - there is about a 1/16" difference in length between the two sides. Weird. Additional strips filled in the brim over the car ends, and then each corner was sanded round.

Finally, holes for separate grab irons were drilled and the grab irons were glued in place.

More progress to follow, including possibly reperesenting the drop doors on the gondola floor.

~C.Vigs

MODELTRAINSPARTS.   WHAT TRAIN MANUFACTURES CARS DID YOU USE TO MAKE PRE MCGINNIS PASSENGER CARS. THEY LOOK REALLY GREAT. LIONEL13

Thanks -- I used the KLine 13" passenger cars  and very carefully cut out the window areas in strips using several fresh X-Acto blades guided by a steel straight edge. I took them out in one or two long pieces. Then scrounged train shows for junker early American Flyer passenger cars - I found them in the $4 - $6 range, often where someone had dropped a solder iron on the roofs which on those cars was molded with the sides. At one show I found a car for $6 that had the trucks included which i took off and found another A-F dealer at the other side of the hall who bought the trucks for $5  a pair! You will need 1 1/2 AF cars to do 1 KLine car. Cutting out the AF window strips was the toughest and most difficult part of the job. That old plastic is very hard to work with - scribbing with an X-Acto knife doesn't work - the plastic crumbles; a friend at GE tried a water cooled Laser cutter to no avail; a Zona saw didn't work either; nor did a table saw. Finally a friend with a band saw fitted with a very fine toothed blade, running extremely slow was able to cut them out. Then it was a matter of fitting, gluing, filling with Squadron (white) putty, and reinforcing from behind with strips of .040" x 1/4" Evergreen plastic glued between some of the windows. I figure i have no more than $25-$30 per car and a lot of labor in each car. I could not figure how to do the "turtle" curved ends to the KLine roofs within my limited skill set. The compound curves would have required a LOT of cutting, filling, and sanding. Good luck if you go ahead with this project. If i can be of any help please feel free to contact me - email is in my profile. Again thanks for the compliment.

jackson AKA modeltrainsparts.

P.S. My current project is building an EP3 "Flat Bottom" electric on a traditional sized KLine, WBB, MTH RK, or Lionel GG1 chassis. Sides will be plastic sheet laminated to brass (almost finished); ends fabricated from plastic unless i can find someone who has them drawn to then 3D print; the properly curved roof has me stumped at the moment. Pans, & other details will be easy. to model.

@New Haven Joe posted:

These are photos that took on a layout tour during the 2018 NMRA national convention in Kansas City.  This is a HO layout.

I think that the layout builder caught the essence of the NH very well.  NH Joe

 

New Haven Joe...great pictures.  The engine house, yard, and building to right of the engine house resemble the NH facility once called the "Charles Street Roundhouse" in Providence.  My grandfather would take me there as a young kid from time to time after he retired from the NH after 40 years. I don't recall exactly when it was closed down...but today there's a road and intersection where it once stood.  I'm wondering if the modeler who built the layout in your pictures had Providence in mind for his project??

@Capetrainman posted:

New Haven Joe...great pictures.  The engine house, yard, and building to right of the engine house resemble the NH facility once called the "Charles Street Roundhouse" in Providence.  My grandfather would take me there as a young kid from time to time after he retired from the NH after 40 years. I don't recall exactly when it was closed down...but today there's a road and intersection where it once stood.  I'm wondering if the modeler who built the layout in your pictures had Providence in mind for his project??

Capetrainman - I know that the builder was from the Northeast but I don't know if he had Providence in mind.  It is unfortunate that there isn't much time to talk to the layout builder during a bus tour.

I really like the Howard Johnson's restaurant.  My family used to stop at HJ's all time when we were traveling.  NH Joe

More videos...

You gotta love those New Haven's!

Jerry

I added corner reinforcement plates to the gondola, as well as representing the four trap doors on the gondola deck. Used .020" sheet and 0.040" square styrene. Also finished priming.

Next will be the black overcoat and decals. I'm going to apply the delivery paint scheme with "NYNH&H" on the sides, as opposed to the later "New Haven" spelled out or the McGinnis scheme.

~C.Vigs

Long live the P&W. I certainly miss seeing this engine around the New Haven area. G&W colors don’t seem right. Glad Lionel included this one in their latest run of SD70M-2s. Yes the crew figures are facing the rear of the unit haha

Biscuit, the Providence & Worcetser SD70M-2 is great. These are the first photos I've seen of how Lionel did, and they might be pushing me over the edge into getting one...

I've painted and decaled my GA-2 gondola. Decals are from K4 Supply Company, the first time I've used this brand. Seeing they had decals available for these gondolas already designed and for sale is what pushed this project from my "that'd be a fun project" list to action. The graphics were crisp, and their decal film was by far the easiest I've used in terms of seperating the decal from the backing - I had them in water for less than 10 seconds. Unfortunately, they also had a tendancy to fold up on each other. I was able to unfold the two or three curled decals without damaging the lettering. These require a little more care and far less water/solvent than other brands I've used.

Don't get used to it looking clean and shiny - if there were any still roaming around in the late 50's - early 60's in their 1929 delivery paint they would be beaten up, rusted, and grungy, and that is how this one will look. I'll do a second in the latter paint with 'New Haven" spelled out that may remain clean.

~C.Vigs

One of my shelf queens (it’s an MTH form a number of years ago)...

New Haven Railroad FL9 #2043 (model by Sunset/3^rd Rail) runs once again on my 10’-by-5’ layout.

MELGAR

And done. Weathered with several layers of chalks, and a little fine loose sand in the corners of the gondola floor. 

I also began working on a second gondola. This one will also have the AHM trucks replaced with Weaver trucks, moved outwards a little bit to better replicate the prototype.

~C.Vigs

Done with gondola number 2. This one will remain fairly clean - I weathered the floor just a tad to highlight the edges/details, so it doesn't look like you're staring into a void. 

On this one, I removed the original trucks and bolsters. I made a new bolster out of bass wood, and applied weaver trucks. The trucks were moved farther towards the ends, so the bolster centerline is under the first rib in from each end. The corner steps were also cut off and replaced with bronze wire.

~C.Vigs

Video of New Haven Railroad FL-9 #2043 (model by Sunset/3^rd Rail) viewed looking north from the south end of my 10’-by-5’ layout.

MELGAR

MELGAR HOW LONG AGO DID SUNSET ISSUE THE NH FL9?

I placed my New Haven FL-9 reservation with Sunset/3rd Rail in August, 2010 and it looks like I received the models in January, 2013.

MELGAR

Those gondolas look great! Nice job.

Jeff C

@poniaj posted:

With the Holidays here, trains are on the proverbial back burner.  However, I was able to finish up all six cars' seats and am in the process of interior lighting.  LED strips will be on the ceiling, but for now, I wanted to see what it would look like.  So I put the LED strip on the side  to light up the interior.  I'm not sure if I'll apply the LED strip directly to the inside of the roof, or put a wooden strip up first and then affix the LED strip to the wooden one.   Either way, there's not a lot of room for fancy electronics.

 

 

Way back in December, I posted this series of shots, and with all that's going on in the world,  I FINALLY finished off one car.  Each of the five other cars will require an hour to install the glazing and at least another hour for the construction of the circuitry and its installation.  That's in addition to the estimated 12-15 hours in each one up to now.  But the results are worth it.  Here's the same car finished.  The overhead lighting reminds me of a full length florescent panel, so IMO it looks OK.   I simply used the self adhesive on the LED strip to adhere it to the inside of the roof and decided it wasn't worth worrying about any heat.   I was able to find a very small buck converter to regulate the voltage and squeezed it, a full wave rectifier and capacitor in the restrooms to hide it all.  If you didn't know, these cars were created by lengthening standard S gauge AC Gilbert cars that were foreshortened like many of the Lionel ones (only 7 windows). 

Love this thread.  I've never seen so much Vermillion in my life!  LOL There's some great modeling going on here, no matter the scale.

Sunset did a great job with the FL9...except for 1 thing....THE HORN  no Hancock 4700!

Beautiful job on the passenger car, Jerry. Your interior looks a lot like the interiors of the older cars that still run behind the diesels on Metro North’s Harlem and Hudson lines (except for the un-socially distant 3rd seat on one side  )!!!

Forgive me if I've been posting a lot of photos of my NH American Flyer cars, but it's been a long drawn out project, especially with our potential moving once the Covid thing abates (if ever). 

I ginned up 6 cars with one of them the "smoking car" that had a separate section for smokers and additional vents in the compartment.  It was separated from the rest of the car by a plexiglass partition and featured leather seats in a different seating arrangement.  At least that's what the diagrams I have from the NH Historic site.  So here's the last ones I'll be posting since the other four cars are similar to the first one I posted which weren't "smoking cars".  Only took three hours to make the circuit and install glazing at this point.  Hey, what else do we have to do? 

Even though I'm not a smoker, this car was part of the regular consist so I had to do it if only for the variety.   If I had more time, I'd also do the café car, but I've run out of junk shells to butcher (and time).     Now on to the other four cars, then the painting of the DL-109s in the "as delivered" scheme.  Remember too that I model in 1:64, so although there's a lot our there, not much in this particular train. 

Stay safe, guys!

Jerry, it looks great.

Are there any New Haven fans out there today?

MELGAR

Hi Mel.

            Mel, picked up this impeccable A/F, 1956-57, #984 New Haven boxcar a few months ago.

@DMASSO posted:

Hi Mel.

Don,

Have you been running your 4-6-6T? How do you like it? I bought the B&A version.

MELGAR

I had my shoulder replaced on September 10. I have not been in the basement so I have to wait.  One of my club members wants to bring me up to the club and test it out.

How is your engine?

Mel;

I have the NYC version and I really like it. I think it’s a good runner, and has great sounds. I just posted a video in the passenger train thread where my 4-6-6T makes an appearance...

 https://ogrforum.com/...8#149943328405808448

Mine arrived with broken steps that I had to fix. Runs OK in conventional but speed control not great.

MELGAR

@MELGAR posted:

Mine arrived with broken steps that I had to fix. Runs OK in conventional but speed control not great.

MELGAR

Sorry to hear about your steps... glad you were able to fix them. In command mode, the engine is set to 200 speed steps, so you get pretty good speed control.

@MELGAR posted:

Don,

Have you been running your 4-6-6T? How do you like it? I bought the B&A version.

MELGAR

Mel. One of my club members took the engine to his house. He said only the stack would smoke. Not the whistle.

Any trick to this? He is very good with Legacy.

Keeping that boiler hot!!

New Haven Railroad Fairbanks-Morse CPA24-5 #793 (MTH with PS-3) on my 12'-by-8' layout. The New Haven had ten of these locomotives, just as they did with some types of electric motors.

MELGAR

My New Haven library......

Peter