any New Haven fans ....

richs09 posted:

 Jerry - again, your work is really well done.  I'm curious about how you cut the shells - obviously the cuts need to be square and with minimal ragged edge.  I also see in your earlier post to this thread that you've added a thin piece of styrene to made sure all of the spaces between the windows are uniform.  What glue did you use?  Are the chassis done the same way -- cutting the original Gilbert chassis?

 

Rich,

I"ll try to be brief.  The shells were cut with a Zona type saw using a machinist square as a guide:

The other side was cut the same way using the square to make the cut.  Then a piece of tape to guide the saw on the roof:

The piece of styrene to take the place of the saw width was cemented with MEK.  A thin piece of styrene sheet was also cemented on the inside for added strength.  When assembling the pieces, the car was trued up on a flat piece of glass to make sure it was straight in all directions.  A bit of filing may be necessary to keep it perfectly straight.  Then when dry, the gap and the filler piece was undercut slightly with a triangular jeweler's file and the resulting "gouge" filled with a mixture of styrene dissolved in MEK.  I used scrap pieces of the cars cut into small pieces then put in an airtight bottle with a little MEK.  After a few days, I stirred it with a metal spatula, either adding more plastic or MEK until the paste was the consistency of toothpaste.  It was liberally troweled into the gouge and allowed to dry for a week or more.  It will shrink, but after a week or more, it's completely dry and solid.  It then can be treated like the rest of the car since it was basically "welded" together.  A caution, however.  MEK is highly flammable and dangerous, so I did the mixing, etc. outside in the nice weather.  Lacquer thinner would work too.

As to the frames, since the originals are either sheet metal or die cast, it was easier to make new frames from .060" styrene sheets with styrene channels for the frame rails and bars for the bolsters.  I added wooden blocks to simulate the battery boxes, water tanks and A/C unit.  After all, I was just trying to simulate a "what if", not a contest model.  As I said before, sometimes close enough is good enough:

And thanks for the link to the circuitry.  It will come in handy.  I have dozens of LEDs taken from an on-sale, after Christmas light string.  Hey, I'm cheap!  I usually use a Gilbert transformer and the LEDs are 3V max.

Sorry for being long winded again.  Maybe others can use some of my suggestions.  Isn't this what this forum is about?

richs09 posted:

 

In terms of lighting, as I suspect you know, there are a number of posts about circuits and wiring up LED strips.  One of the more recent is here, which is a reference to GRJ's constant current circuit. f

I tried to find a way to contact you directly, but couldn't find your email.  The circuit described is too large to fit anywhere.  Besides, the vestibules on the cars are open.  Thanks anyway.  I guess I'll simply use a small diode bridge and resistor.

Video shows my New Haven Railroad ALCO RS1 #0668 pulling a short freight train with New Haven NE-6 caboose C-681 on my 10’-by-5’ layout. The locomotive and caboose are Atlas O products.

Photo and video by:

MELGAR

Melgar, 

I like how simple the layout tack plan is, and it’s very highly detailed! Outstanding work!

Seacoast posted:

Melgar,

I like how simple the layout tack plan is, and it’s very highly detailed! Outstanding work!

The track plan had to be just an oval because I wanted a minimum of O-54 curves and the table is five feet (60 inches) wide. With the scenery items that I wanted to include (town, bridges, factories, creek, tunnel/hill) and the ten foot table length, there wasn't even room for a siding.

MELGAR

Melgar will you be expanding or is the layout finished. Again a Well done layout!

Seacoast posted:

Melgar will you be expanding or is the layout finished. Again a Well done layout!

I'm considering a four-foot extension at the town end. The layout is modular, built on two five-foot by five-foot pieces of plywood covered by up to five inches of extruded pink foam. It is designed to be lightweight and transportable. The plywood/scenery can be lifted off the benchwork and the buildings, bridges and even the tunnel/hill can be lifted right off the layout if it has to be moved. The benchwork is modular (by Mianne) and can be disassembled with a screwdriver. The modularity will be maintained if I add the extension.

MELGAR

Below is MTH 20-5601-1, EF4 #310, upgraded to PS3 and a modified Lionel Polar Electric pantograph.  Thanks to Don (@scale.rail) for the pantograph tip, it is a  a top-notch performer with zero defects so far, in endless hours of runtime.  It is currently paired with Atlas O 6679, NE6 #C700 on the staging track. 

Although I live in CA, I became a life long NH fan as a child visiting my grandparents in Fairfield, CT.  They took me to my first baseball game (Brooklyn Dodgers vs. St. Louis (?), first Broadway play, etc., on the NH.  My grandparents were big Dodger fans and hated those Yankees.  They became Mets fans after the Dodgers moved to LA.  For some reason they never liked the Yankees.  

I went to the TCA convention in Warwick, RI a couple of years ago.   I rented a car and drove to Fairfield to see our old family home and visit my grandparent's graves in Bridgeport.   I took these photos of the Fairfield station during that trip.  Much has changed and much is the  same.  Many of my childhood greatest adventures and memories started in the buildings shown below.  NH Joe

The NH railroad (now Metro North) runs east and west along the shore line of Long Island Sound.  This is the station building on the north side of the tracks.  We would take the train from this side to ride a west bound commuter train to New York.  Note the salt box design of the station.  I don't recall seeing any models of these salt box stations buildings although it was a very common design on the NH.   The building is in much better shape now than in my grandparents day.  This parking lot was dirt then.  We had to wade through snow and mud to catch a train during bad weather.

Here is another view of the north station taken from across the tracks.  Note the high level platforms.  All the platforms were at track level in the NH days.  

Here is another view of the of the north station looking down the tracks toward New York.  Note that the 100 plus year old NH catenary towers are still being used.  The NH triangle wire has been replaced by a modern wire system.  Only one of the four tracks on the mainline has concrete ties.  This route is used daily by Amtrak Acela trains.  I don't know what the speed limit is in this area.  I remember seeing NH expresses roaring through here.  They always seemed to me, as a young boy, to be going faster than a speeding bullet.

Here is a photo of the south station building.  It is brick.  People would catch the train on this side of the tracks to go east to Bridgeport, New Haven and Boston.  The building had a taxi company and a pizza parlor inside when this photo was taken.

Here is another view of the south side station building.  The entrance to the pizza parlor is under the sign on the right.

Here is a track side view of the building as seen from across the tracks.

Here is one of the trains that I saw that day.  It is heading west toward New York.  This is the end of the train.

Here is a view of the tracks looking east toward New Haven and Boston.  Note the pedestrian bridge.  That bridge was a very shaky wooden structure back in the day.  I have crossed it many times.

Here is a view of the tracks looking west toward New York.  Note the large radius curve for high speed running.  It was a thrill to see an EP-5 towing the Merchants Limited racing along these tracks.  

Here are a few photos of the interior of the north side station building.  Back in the day, this interior was smoky and dingy. It has been beautifully restored.  The restoration may be better than it was when new.

New Haven Joe,

   I am not seeing your pictures.

Tom 

Same here.

I now see all the pics, Joe. I love it when the old stations are restored/repurposed. Thanks for sharing.

NEW HAVEN JOE,

Pictures now seen. I take Metro-North trains from the Fairfield and Bridgeport stations several times a week. Very familiar with the scene. Thanks.

MELGAR

With the Holidays here, trains are on the proverbial back burner.  However, I was able to finish up all six cars' seats and am in the process of interior lighting.  LED strips will be on the ceiling, but for now, I wanted to see what it would look like.  So I put the LED strip on the side  to light up the interior.  I'm not sure if I'll apply the LED strip directly to the inside of the roof, or put a wooden strip up first and then affix the LED strip to the wooden one.   Either way, there's not a lot of room for fancy electronics.

A link to this site popped up on my Facebook feed today... it contains a nice photo collection of New Haven steamers “from A to Z”.

https://sites.google.com/site/...p/pages/sitemap/list

Apples55,

Correct. Great pictures of New Haven steam.

MELGAR

Picked up a SW1500 calf. SW1500 engine is now attached and in correct position.

New Alco PA (second run) just arrived from 3rd Rail. Amazing...

Some LionChief New Haven action with Menard's rolling stock.....

Peter

Looks sharp Peter.

New Haven Railroad RS-3 #531 (model by Atlas O) and S-2 #0617 (model by MTH) were built by ALCO. CPA-24-5 #793 (model by MTH) was built by Fairbanks-Morse. Picture and video taken on my 12’-by-8’ layout.

MELGAR

New Haven action on the G&O.   The PA set is a Williams model that has been converted to battery power using the Airwire remote control system.  NH Joe

Both PA sets in the photo below are battery powered.  The NH is Williams and SP is MTH.

Three New Haven Railroad diesels in McGinnis colors. Where are all the New Haven fans?

Picture by:

MELGAR

How about two post war offerings???

646825 was part of my brother’s first train set in the early 60’s which I have now since my brother has no interest in trains...

6464425 was my Aunt’s... er... I mean cousin’s, from the late 50’s. He gave me all “his” trains after his mother passed.

New Haven ALCO RS-3 #531 (model by Atlas O) running on the O-36 inner loop of my 12’-by-8’ layout.

Photo and video by:

MELGAR

First two photos are of a Weaver dual can motored RS-3 I painted about 8 years ago. This scheme (orange hoods, black cab, and no letering aside from the NH emblem and unit numbers) was applied to about half of the New Haven's RS-3 fleet in the early 60's, as they came back from a rebuilding at Alco (plus 2 additional units the New Haven rebuilt in-house).

Next two photos were taken yesterday - in the process of painting a Weaver universal drive RS-3 into the pullman green/orange paint scheme used on the New Haven's first batch of RS-3s (much like Melgar's 531 in the post above). The second batch arrived with the hood tops also painted pullman green. Adding a more detail on this one than I did on 529 - I sanded off the molded-on grab irons and added brass ones on the shell, replaced the molded-in fan grill on the hood top with brass one, and added brass handrails on the frame.  

~C.Vigs

C.VIGS,

Nice work.

MELGAR

Two purchases from The Big E over the weekend... OK, the second one is a bit of a stretch   

Paul,

 Both look good.

Tom

Apples55 posted:

Two purchases from The Big E over the weekend... OK, the second one is a bit of a stretch   

Paul,

I hope you enjoyed the show and think it was worth the trip. I'm not quite sure I understand your reference to "a bit of a stretch" about the milk car. I have seen a picture of a full-scale "New Haven Safe Milk" car on-line although I have no further information. Weaver made a similar model of a 40-foot refrigerated milk car. Mine is shown below.

MELGAR

MELGAR posted:

Apples55 posted:

Two purchases from The Big E over the weekend... OK, the second one is a bit of a stretch   

Paul,

I hope you enjoyed the show and think it was worth the trip. I'm not quite sure I understand your reference to "a bit of a stretch" about the milk car. I have seen a picture of a full-scale "New Haven Safe Milk" car on-line although I have no further information. Weaver made a similar model of a 40-foot refrigerated milk car. Mine is shown below.

MELGAR

Mel;

I really enjoyed the show (posted something on the Amherst thread). Assuming decent weather next year, my knees should be in much stronger shape and I will definitely consider doing a full day. As for the stretch, I didn’t think this was strictly a New Haven Railroad car, rather a car from a New Haven company. But I really like the green in your version!!!

MELGAR posted:

Apples55 posted:

Two purchases from The Big E over the weekend... OK, the second one is a bit of a stretch   

Weaver made a similar model of a 40-foot refrigerated milk car. Mine is shown below.

MELGAR

Apples55 posted:

As for the stretch, I didn’t think this was strictly a New Haven Railroad car, rather a car from a New Haven company.

I think that is correct. On your car, the ownership reporting mark and car number are EDIX 102. On mine they are GICX 300. The "X" indicates that the car was not owned by a railroad.

MELGAR

               My American Flyer New Haven I4  Pacific #293 on a freight train. 

Picked up this Plymouth recently. Made a nice pair with the Menards car.

This model is a bit unique because it's fit with a snow plow.

RSJB18 posted:

Picked up this Plymouth recently. Made a nice pair with the Menards car.

This model is a bit unique because it's fit with a snow plow.

Love that Plymouth, Bob (although I tend to be more of a Subaru guy these days  ). Wish they’d make a command control version!!!

Apples55 posted:

RSJB18 posted:

Picked up this Plymouth recently. Made a nice pair with the Menards car.

This model is a bit unique because it's fit with a snow plow.

Love that Plymouth, Bob (although I tend to be more of a Subaru guy these days  ). Wish they’d make a command control version!!!

Having opened a few of these up I can assure you that there is no room for even an extra resistor. The motor and smoke unit are under the hood and the board is in the cab. A dummy unit behind with a tether would be an option.

I would trade all 6 I have for a 69 Roadrunner however.......

I attended the Hartford, CT 2009 NMRA convention.  One of the fellows on the tour had a lot of New Haven memorabilia.  As best that I can recall, he worked for the NH and rescued many of these items from the dumpster.  NH Joe

This is the Merchants Limited tailgate sign and the front of EP-5 379.  The Merchants Limited was the NH's premier passenger train between New York and Boston.  The owner said that he got the EP-5 front from the scrap pile as best that I can recall.    

This is a closer view of the the Merchants Limited tailgate sign.

This is a table setting of NH china and silverware.  The china pattern is called New Haven, Platinum Blue.  According to one of my books, this pattern was first used starting in the 1940s.  I think that the table is from either a NH dinner or grill car.  

Another view of the place setting.  The corn is fake but it does show the fine style in which it was served on the Merchants, Yankee Clipper and other fine NH trains.  Note the Boston baked bean pot on the right next to the corn. 

I am not sure if the ticket office is from the NH or not but the owner had it with his other NH memorabilia.   Note the standing ash trays.  Nearly everyone smoked back in the day.  

Here is a NH office desk.  Note all the super modern internet equipment and phones for its day.  

This is another item rescued from the scrap heap.  Westport, CT is west of New Haven and Bridgeport.  It is one of the most desirable and wealthiest towns in the nation because it is an easy commute to NY over the old NH four track mainline.  I think that Martha Stewart either lives there or did live there.  (Correct me if I am wrong.) The four track mainline can be clearly seen on the track diagram.  

For those of you have never seen the NH's four track mainline, here are two photos that I took during the 2018 TCA convention in Warwick, RI.  The photos were taken at the Fairfield, CT station.  Fairfield is just east of Westport.

This is looking East towards Bridgeport (the next station) and Boston.  The NH runs East and West along Long Island Sound at this point.  Trains from New York to Boston are eastbound and trains from Boston to New York are westbound.  The Merchants Limited and the other NY great passenger trains used to speed down the center tracks.  The outside tracks were for commuter trains.  

This is the view looking westbound toward New York.  Note that the original NH catenary supports are still serving Amtrak and Metro North.  The overhead wire has been replaced as has most of the track.  This infrastructure was built around 1910 and is still serving people over 100 year later.  The NH was a magnificent railroad.

Apples55 posted:

Two purchases from The Big E over the weekend... OK, the second one is a bit of a stretch   

 

 

Pardon my ignorance,  enjoying the pictures as a New Haven fan, but what is "the Big E" ?

Gary Liebisch posted:

Apples55 posted:

Two purchases from The Big E over the weekend... OK, the second one is a bit of a stretch    

Pardon my ignorance,  enjoying the pictures as a New Haven fan, but what is "the Big E" ?

Gary;

The Big E is another name for the Amherst Train Show in Springfield, Mass.

New Haven from the MTH booth at Amherst last weekend.