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@Landsteiner posted:

"This is a LC w/bluetooth board. Not a LC+"

I thought LC doesn't allow for electrocouplers?

By the way, I and quite a few other folks eagerly await your description of how you added dirt cheap command control to a conventional loco.  Hopefully Lionel won't stop supplying the boards as soon as it is well known (thanks to you) how to do this conversion.  Under $100 would seem a pretty good deal, even given the labor needed.  I think that's what Ed Bender charged to add his TMCC "Train Brain" to my MTH GG1 PS1 equipped loco about 30 years ago .

yea....see my response to John.

I'm hoping this goes well too.

Thanks

I can't see what road number is on your engine Bob, but for your reference here is the classification system for the New Haven's EF-3s:

Numbers 0150 - 0154 came from Baldwin-Westinghouse in 1942 and were classified as EF-3.

Numbers 0155 - 0159 came from General Electric in 1943 and were classified as EF-3-a.

Both classes, while intended primarily for freight service, also had provisions for passenger service. In 1944 the 0150 - 0154 had some ballast removed and a passenger service steam boiler added in its place, and became class EF-3-b.

~Chris

@C.Vigs posted:

I can't see what road number is on your engine Bob, but for your reference here is the classification system for the New Haven's EF-3s:

Numbers 0150 - 0154 came from Baldwin-Westinghouse in 1942 and were classified as EF-3.

Numbers 0155 - 0159 came from General Electric in 1943 and were classified as EF-3-a.

Both classes, while intended primarily for freight service, also had provisions for passenger service. In 1944 the 0150 - 0154 had some ballast removed and a passenger service steam boiler added in its place, and became class EF-3-b.

~Chris

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Chris, thanks for the information. I can go up and check the the number; but according to the attached it looks like they assigned #150.

Here’s the photo of the number board.
It looks like MTH got it wrong. According to your notes # 159 should be EF 3a. IMG_0943

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I haven’t seen many New Haven fans posting lately so here are a photo and video taken on the O-36 inner loop of my 12’-by-8’ layout, which I rarely run. The locomotive is New Haven Alco S-2 diesel switcher #0615 – an MTH Premier model (20-20587-1). It’s pulling four New Haven steel boxcars and caboose C-681 (Atlas O).

MELGAR

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Forum member Bill Park had a get-together yesterday and we had a great time running mostly New Haven consists. Here's a selection of photos and videos I took.

F-5 Consolidation #153 enters yard limits with a local freight while R-2-a Mountain 3507 waits to depart with a priority freight:

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Heavy mainline traffic yesterday:


Pacing each other:

We can't forget about passengers - a new Budd RDC passes above a passenger consist pulled by an R-1 Mountain while the local freight passes above:

~Chris

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New Haven Railroad Alco PA A-A #0767/#0770 (MTH 20-21889-1 and 20-21890-1, PS3) is a custom run by forum sponsor MrMuffin’s Trains – shown with New Haven Alco DL-109 #0719 on my 12’-by-8’ layout.

As a New Haven fan, I thank MrMuffin for making these models. The colors and MTH Alco diesel engine sounds are terrific. At first, I bought just one model, #0767. After it arrived, I ordered #0770 to make an A-A set.

The warm orange/green roof/silver-gray pinstripe color scheme was used only on the New Haven’s first ten Alco PAs (Class DER-3a - #0760 to #0769 diesel-electric-road) delivered in 1948. In 1949, seventeen more PAs arrived and were painted in a Pullman green with gold stripes scheme similar to the Alco DL-109 (Class DER-1). The first ten engines were repainted into the green/gold scheme by the early 1950s. New Haven PA #0770 was delivered in 1949 so it was never painted in the original scheme and I think the colors on the model of #0770 are not authentic. Nonetheless, orange PAs and green DL-109s were both seen on the New Haven Railroad in 1948 and probably pulled heavyweight and “American Flyer” passenger cars.

The PAs were initially assigned to passenger service on the Shore Line between New Haven and Boston. Unlike the DL-109s, which had two 1,000 horsepower 539-T engines, the PAs each had a single four-cycle V-16 Alco 244 engine that developed 2,000 horsepower at 1,000 RPM and were geared for 80 miles-per-hour. In 1953, the New Haven’s fleet of 27 PAs were re-geared for 90 miles-per-hour and the last one was retired in 1965.

MELGAR

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@MELGAR posted:

New Haven Railroad Alco PA A-A #0767/#0770 (MTH 20-21889-1 and 20-21890-1, PS3) is a custom run by forum sponsor MrMuffin’s Trains – shown with New Haven Alco DL-109 #0719 on my 12’-by-8’ layout.

As a New Haven fan, I thank MrMuffin for making these models. The colors and MTH Alco diesel engine sounds are terrific. At first, I bought just one model, #0767. After it arrived, I ordered #0770 to make an A-A set.

The warm orange/green roof/silver-gray pinstripe color scheme was used only on the New Haven’s first ten Alco PAs (Class DER-3a - #0760 to #0769 diesel-electric-road) delivered in 1948. In 1949, seventeen more PAs arrived and were painted in a Pullman green with gold stripes scheme similar to the Alco DL-109 (Class DER-1). The first ten engines were repainted into the green/gold scheme by the early 1950s. New Haven PA #0770 was delivered in 1949 so it was never painted in the original scheme and I think the colors on the model of #0770 are not authentic. Nonetheless, orange PAs and green DL-109s were both seen on the New Haven Railroad in 1948 and probably pulled heavyweight and “American Flyer” passenger cars.

The PAs were initially assigned to passenger service on the Shore Line between New Haven and Boston. Unlike the DL-109s, which had two 1,000 horsepower 539-T engines, the PAs each had a single four-cycle V-16 Alco 244 engine that developed 2,000 horsepower at 1,000 RPM and were geared for 80 miles-per-hour. In 1953, the New Haven’s fleet of 27 PAs were re-geared for 90 miles-per-hour and the last one was retired in 1965.

MELGAR

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Nice PA's Mel. I like the orange/gray.

Bob

I’ve been continuing to run models of three New Haven Railroad Alco PAs on my 12’-by-8’ layout. New Haven #0767 and #0770, running as an A-A set and painted in the 1948 orange-green-silver pinstripe scheme, are recent models by MTH. #0771, painted in the 1949 green and gold scheme, was made by Sunset/3rd Rail. The New Haven had ten PAs (#0760 to #0769) in the orange-green-silver scheme and seventeen (#0770 to #0786) in the Pullman green and Dulux gold paint scheme. Locomotives with the 1948 paint scheme were repainted into the green and gold scheme in the early 1950s.

The last of the New Haven PAs was retired in 1965.

MELGAR

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Photos and video show my recently purchased MTH Premier model (20-21845-1) of New Haven Railroad GE U25B #2507. The video shows the model running smoothly under conventional control at 10 scale miles-per-hour on my 10’-by-5’ layout. The diesel engine sounds are noticeably different than on MTH models of Alco locomotives.

The U25B was introduced in 1960 and had a 2,500 horsepower four-cycle V-16 diesel powerplant. Its weight was 252,000 pounds with a tractive effort of 75,000 pounds for starting and 64,000 pounds continuously. GE produced 478 U25B’s between 1959 and 1966. The New Haven ordered 10 U25Bs (class DERS-7) in 1964 at a cost of $170,068 each. They were known as “U-boats” and went into service on the New Haven’s Maybrook Line in October and November of 1964 running in three- and four-unit sets. Sixteen more were ordered a year later. Road numbers were 2500 to 2525 and referred to the 2500 horsepower rating. Road numbers 2500 to 2509 had a one-piece windshield and the others had a split windshield. The MTH model of #2507 has a split windshield that should be one-piece – but it’s otherwise accurate as far as I can see.  #2525 was the last locomotive built for the New Haven Railroad and is preserved at the Railroad Museum of New England/Naugatuck Railroad in Thomaston, CT.

MELGAR

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