Well I just posted this on the "oil tankers" thread but given the subject here is New Haven, I decided to post it here as well. Just arrived today from that famous auction site that will go unmentioned, my Lionel New Haven chemical tank car. The Lionel #36148 from 2009.
Best Wishes
Don
Photos and videos show my MTH model of New Haven EP-5 #371 at low speed on my 12’-by-8’ layout. The locomotive (20-2195-1, MSRP $349.95, 1999) has PS1 and a BCR and was the first model of a New Haven electric motor produced by MTH. It is pulling RPO #2782 (by Weaver) and trailed by stainless steel passenger cars, including observation car Bunker Hill, that entered service in 1948 and 1949 on the Merchants Limited between New York City and Boston.
MELGAR
A New Haven I-5 Hudson heads a string of old heavyweights as it heads for Maybrook and Scranton on my fictious NyNH&H - NYO&W Railroad. The I-5 was recently totally overhauled by Pat Norcross (Harmon Shops) and includes newcan motor, transmission and gearing, new electronics and smoke unit along with some new side rods because the old ones were worn and sloppy. Nice job Pat.
@Bill Park posted:A New Haven I-5 Hudson heads a string of old heavyweights as it heads for Maybrook and Scranton on my fictious NyNH&H - NYO&W Railroad. The I-5 was recently totally overhauled by Pat Norcross (Harmon Shops) and includes newcan motor, transmission and gearing, new electronics and smoke unit along with some new side rods because the old ones were worn and sloppy. Nice job Pat.
Watched the video, looks like a great smooth runner. What new electronics were put in? Looking to upgrade my I5
For those who haven't been following the "3rdRail--Can We Expect Any New Items?" thread, Sunset Models is considering doing the New Haven's Pullman Standard passenger cars. These are the postwar stainless steel sided cars, not the prewar Osgood-Bradley / Pullman Bradley cars done by Weaver and Atlas O. As far as I'm aware this would be the first time these cars would be mass produced O-scale. Rapido is currently making them in HO and they are gorgeous.
Allegedly under consideration are the 8600 series coaches, parlor cars, the "County" series baggage-parlor-lounge cars, and a food service car (unclear if diner or grill car, probably hasn't been looked into yet).
Also under consideration is an EP-4 electric.
I've let Scott Mann know of my interest in these cars, and I suggest everyone else here does the same. If we can help prove there is demand the more likely these are to be made.
~Chris
@C.Vigs posted:For those who haven't been following the "3rdRail--Can We Expect Any New Items?" thread, Sunset Models is considering doing the New Haven's Pullman Standard passenger cars. These are the postwar stainless steel sided cars, not the prewar Osgood-Bradley / Pullman Bradley cars done by Weaver and Atlas O. As far as I'm aware this would be the first time these cars would be mass produced O-scale. Rapido is currently making them in HO and they are gorgeous.
Allegedly under consideration are the 8600 series coaches, parlor cars, the "County" series baggage-parlor-lounge cars, and a food service car (unclear if diner or grill car, probably hasn't been looked into yet).
Also under consideration is an EP-4 electric.
I've let Scott Mann know of my interest in these cars, and I suggest everyone else here does the same. If we can help prove there is demand the more likely these are to be made.
~Chris
How many fans would want them to redo NH FL9 or how about an i5
@Wvm posted:How many fans would want them to redo NH FL9 or how about an i5
I sent an email to Scott Mann telling him of my interest in a New Haven EP-4, rerun of FL9s, and New Haven passenger cars. He did respond and thanked me for the suggestions. Someone also suggested an Alco high-hood diesel switcher, which I think is an excellent idea. Many railroads had that type of engine and it was the first type of diesel switcher ever purchased by the New Haven. It was assigned class DEY-1 (diesel-electric-yard) and began service at Belle Dock Yard in 1931. I don't think Alco high-hood models have ever been made in O gauge.
An I-5 would be nice too but probably would be quite expensive and might not get sufficient orders. The items mentioned above are more likely to get enough orders and also would be more affordable. Given what the price would be, I might not go for an I-5.
MELGAR
Mel: I know I sound redundant, but I would still love to see a New Haven Mountain with a Vanderbilt tender.
I am not sure a rerun of Fl9 would be worth it for Scott. Has there been a big demand for that engine?
@Bill Park posted:A New Haven I-5 Hudson heads a string of old heavyweights as it heads for Maybrook and Scranton on my fictious NyNH&H - NYO&W Railroad. The I-5 was recently totally overhauled by Pat Norcross (Harmon Shops) and includes newcan motor, transmission and gearing, new electronics and smoke unit along with some new side rods because the old ones were worn and sloppy. Nice job Pat.
Magnificent, Bill!
Peter
From a business point of view, I think the Alco high-hood diesel switcher might be the most economically feasible model being proposed. Seventy-nine HH600 locomotives were produced for more than 20 railroads, although some railroads purchased only one example. Later versions were the HH660 (43 locomotives, at least 16 railroads), HH900 (21 locomotives, at least 8 railroads), and HH1000 (34 locomotives, at least 10 railroads). These were historic locomotives. The New Haven Railroad had 10 HH600s and 10 HH660s. One set of tools could be used to sell versions representing many railroads. Locomotives like the EP-4 and FL9 are of interest mostly to New Haven fans, and it's not clear that there would be enough sales to justify production.
MELGAR
An Alco L1 Mohawk heads a revenue freight towards New Haven as a heavily used L-2a Mohawk heads a coal drag toward New Have as well, while a FM C Liner heads a local commuter through the farm country of upstate New York
@C.Vigs posted:For those who haven't been following the "3rdRail--Can We Expect Any New Items?" thread, Sunset Models is considering doing the New Haven's Pullman Standard passenger cars. These are the postwar stainless steel sided cars, not the prewar Osgood-Bradley / Pullman Bradley cars done by Weaver and Atlas O. As far as I'm aware this would be the first time these cars would be mass produced O-scale. Rapido is currently making them in HO and they are gorgeous.
Allegedly under consideration are the 8600 series coaches, parlor cars, the "County" series baggage-parlor-lounge cars, and a food service car (unclear if diner or grill car, probably hasn't been looked into yet).
Also under consideration is an EP-4 electric.
I've let Scott Mann know of my interest in these cars, and I suggest everyone else here does the same. If we can help prove there is demand the more likely these are to be made.
~Chris
Well there goes my budget again.
I previously posted a longer version of this under a separate topic, but figured I would also post it here in case anyone missed it. I’ve had this 2015 Lionel Legacy #5911 Rio Grande GP9 since I got back into the hobby about 7 years ago, but never picked up any Rio Grande rolling stock to go with it. I have a number of pieces of New Haven rolling stock, but no locomotive to pull them, so I decided to re-paint the Rio Grande GP9 in New Haven colors.
I used Krylon all-in-one Black Satin for the base and Krylon all-in-one Gloss Popsicle Orange for the orange. Everything got a final coat of matte clear.
The NH decals are by K4 and I made the black “5911” numbers for the cab using waterslide laser printer paper sealed with gloss clear. Obviously, the overall paint scheme is a fantasy scheme, but certainly one that might have been done, although I'm pretty sure the NH never pulled a Saturn V rocket. 
Cleaning the tracks tonight for our Friday(090823) evening, under the lights, 
open house.
New Haven branch line.
Don,
As you probably know, in the 1800s, the Housatonic was a successful independent railroad that connected Bridgeport, Norwalk, New Haven, Danbury and Pittsfield, MA. It eventually was leased by the New Haven (1892) in its bid for monopoly control of Southern New England rail traffic. The engine and caboose are beautiful.
MELGAR
Thank you Mel.
I recently purchased an MTH Premier model of New Haven EP-3 electric locomotive #0360 (20-5631-1E, MSRP $899.95, 2008) with 3-volt PS2 from Trainz, despite the fact that I already have two examples of this type of locomotive (New Haven #0353 in Pullman green with gold stripes and #350 in Hunter green with silver stripes) that I’ve never run. So, this one is the designated runner… These models were made in South Korea and have die-cast bodies. Trainz listed this one as C-7, in excellent condition, but I think it’s probably better than that. It certainly runs well. MTH has not been making models of New Haven equipment lately, so, I’ve been buying good quality used items from Trainz. I doubt the EP-3 model will ever be produced again by MTH.
The EP-3s were built by General Electric and known as “flatbottoms” on the New Haven. They entered service in 1931, ran between New York City and New Haven (72 miles), and were retired by 1961. New Haven’s ten EP-3s were initially numbered from #0351 to #0360. In 1946, #0360 was renumbered to #0350 to put all EP-3s into the 0350-0359 group. The zero prefix was removed from the EP-3s in 1950.
The videos show EP-3 #0360 with two trains of New Haven passenger cars. In the first video, the consist has a Railway Post Office and three 1920s Pullman Green heavyweight cars of the Merchants Limited. In the second video, it is pulling the RPO and three modern stainless steel passenger cars acquired by the New Haven in 1948 and repainted with an orange window band around 1955 during the McGinnis era. Therefore, by the time the former EP-3 #0360 could have hauled the McGinnis scheme passenger cars, it had been renumbered to #350.
MELGAR
Super nice Mel. It looks so prototypical. Bill
Really nice Mel. Now you just need the one in McGinnis scheme
Your hobo band scene is very effective, Mel. I can almost hear the blues coming off that harmonica!
@Wvm posted:Really nice Mel. Now you just need the one in McGinnis scheme
I bet Mel already has it, or will have it soon.
In 1959 the New Haven sent four of their FA-1's and four of their FB-1's back to Alco for rebuilding. They returned with 26L brake systems and nose MU capability to mate with the 1956 road switchers (GP9s, RS-11s, and H-16-44s). Also added were grab irons on either side of the nose door, a light above the front coupler / brake lines, and grab irons up the engineer's side of the nose to access the windshield. All eight returned in the Alpert paint scheme (black and red with no large white sections), and could be differentiated from un-rebuilt FA-1's due to the large "NH" logo on the nose; un-rebuilt units had small logos.
I painted a Williams FA-1 A-A set in the Alpert scheme years ago using rattle cans and lettering printed on vinyl strips, and now with the arrival of a Sunset GP9 to my roster I decided I needed to re-do the unpowered A with proper details and decals. Here it is, detailed, painted, and weathered.
Nose light, nose MU receptacle, and MU hoses are from Precision Scale. Wire grab irons are from Tichy, with separate bolt details from Precision Scale. Vents under the number boards are cut from styrene tube. Paint is Tru-Color New Haven Socony Red and Engine Black. Decals are from various Microscale sheets. Weathering was all done with powders.
~Chris
NICE job Chris. That looks like a high end model with the added on details.
Chris, Really nice looking model. You have real patience to add all those small details and it really enhances the unit. I am a fan of realistic looking proto types and the Bew Haven wasn't real good at keeping their engines clean. So the weathering, for my money, makes it even more realistic. I bought a new Legacy New Haven Mohawk from Mr. Muffins a year ago and I had it lightly weathered. I like how authentic it looks and will be weathering more engines similar to what you just have posted. Great job. Bill
A New Haven L2a Mohawk prepares to head for Maybrook and New Haven with a full load of coal for Southern New England markets. We are at Scranton with two coal companies in the background as she gets underway. The next two are the Mohawk under full power and not showing and signs of strain as she heads east. Finally coming into the approach to the Cedar Hill Yard in New Haven, the locomotive slows down as it approaches slow yard speed limits.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/YWdzkKx5f6HEETj29
https://photos.app.goo.gl/SQFvp1zJoBhfA6p47
https://photos.app.goo.gl/DAxUe7WojiqEAfoT9
Here’s a FL-9 that my daughter and I had lunch on in Cape Cod. We sat up top in the empire builder vista dome.
Here’s my EP-5 , a ps3 that’s fully functional and a Proto Sound that’s not working.
Bill Park Loved your Mohawk (Mountain) videos. your layout is amazing ! Like that I5 sitting in foreground of one video!
@Bill Park posted:A New Haven L2a Mohawk prepares to head for Maybrook and New Haven with a full load of coal for Southern New England markets. We are at Scranton with two coal companies in the background as she gets underway. The next two are the Mohawk under full power and not showing and signs of strain as she heads east. Finally coming into the approach to the Cedar Hill Yard in New Haven, the locomotive slows down as it approaches slow yard speed limits.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/YWdzkKx5f6HEETj29
https://photos.app.goo.gl/SQFvp1zJoBhfA6p47
https://photos.app.goo.gl/DAxUe7WojiqEAfoT9
Great videos, Bill...............and, the weathering on the Lehigh Valley hoppers......is so real!
The whole layout is amazing!!!!!
Peter
Thanks all for your compliments
New Haven EP-3 #0360 and DL109 #0719 on my 12'-by-8' layout.
MELGAR
@MELGAR posted:New Haven EP-3 #0360 and DL109 #0719 on my 12'-by-8' layout.
MELGAR
Love that Hunter Green DL 109!
Peter
A GP9 - FA-1 - FB-2 - GP9 set power a freight from Maybrook. Four units are needed to crest the Taconic Mountains.
The GP9s are Sunset 3rd Rail, the FA-1 is the Williams model I detailed and weathered earlier in this thread, and the FB-2 is an MTH model I weathered.
~Chris
@C.Vigs posted:For those who haven't been following the "3rdRail--Can We Expect Any New Items?" thread, Sunset Models is considering doing the New Haven's Pullman Standard passenger cars. These are the postwar stainless steel sided cars...
Allegedly under consideration are the 8600 series coaches, parlor cars, the "County" series baggage-parlor-lounge cars, and a food service car (unclear if diner or grill car, probably hasn't been looked into yet).
So, I am a neophyte in passenger coaches, unless you're talking about the current fleet of LIRR/MNRR M1/3/7 we use daily :-)
Let's say that I wanted to haul these coaches with something other than a NH engine. Would they be "close enough" if I used NYC or D&H power to move them? Gotta figure they're too old for the Amtrak engine I somehow found living in my roster - I'll need something more 1970's for that consist. I'm thinking more along first generation diesel timespan...
Thanks!
@Homey B posted:So, I am a neophyte in passenger coaches, unless you're talking about the current fleet of LIRR/MNRR M1/3/7 we use daily :-)
Let's say that I wanted to haul these coaches with something other than a NH engine. Would they be "close enough" if I used NYC or D&H power to move them? Gotta figure they're too old for the Amtrak engine I somehow found living in my roster - I'll need something more 1970's for that consist. I'm thinking more along first generation diesel timespan...
Thanks!
Jeff Bromberger
The Overaged Kid With Too Many Hobbies
Jeff,
I can't answer your question but agree that we're all over-aged kids with too many trains.
MELGAR
@Homey B posted:So, I am a neophyte in passenger coaches, unless you're talking about the current fleet of LIRR/MNRR M1/3/7 we use daily :-)
Let's say that I wanted to haul these coaches with something other than a NH engine. Would they be "close enough" if I used NYC or D&H power to move them? Gotta figure they're too old for the Amtrak engine I somehow found living in my roster - I'll need something more 1970's for that consist. I'm thinking more along first generation diesel timespan...
Thanks!
Jeff- Here's some photos of the LIRR diesel fleet from the 70's. The LIRR used almost anything they could get their hands on at the time. They were moving to electrics on the western main lines (M-1's), but diesel was still king to the east.
Bob (aka- another kid with too many trains.....) 
Here is a late in life Alco DL109 pulling a short train of Weaver Pullman Bradley cars in various paint schemes followed up by a Atlas/Weaver converted troop Railway Express car.
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