Atlas is making separate-sale Unlettered Heavyweight Madison Passenger Cars in Pullman Green

Very tempting but would be nice if Atlas uploaded photos of these cars. They may be painted and unlettered but I'm curious if the paint on these new Atlas cars will match existing MTH cars in the Pullman green.  I'm considering ordering a few a lettering them to complete a set I have.

@Peter B posted:

Very tempting but would be nice if Atlas uploaded photos of these cars. They may be painted and unlettered but I'm curious if the paint on these new Atlas cars will match existing MTH cars in the Pullman green.  I'm considering ordering a few a lettering them to complete a set I have.

Doubt any photos would do you any good.....will you be able to match the color to your existing cars just by looking at a picture?....not every car made by Pullman was an exact dead matched paint,....a little diversity in car colors would be welcome for real accuracy IMO, ....everybody cries about exact 100% dead on color match and authenticity, but the real railroads didn’t even come close to 100% dead matched colors all the time,....I don’t get it....

Pat

@harmonyards posted:

....everybody cries about exact 100% dead on color match and authenticity, but the real railroads didn’t even come close to 100% dead matched colors all the time,....I don’t get it....

Pat

Do you remember a tv show called Ice Pilots which features Buffalo Airways?

My son built an RC DC-3 and wanted to model it after Buffalo Air.  He actually contacted the owner and asked what color green they use for their planes.

Buffalo Joe's reply.  Whatever green we got in the hanger son.  Go find your favor shade and paint it.

Ron

@harmonyards posted:

Doubt any photos would do you any good.....will you be able to match the color to your existing cars just by looking at a picture?....not every car made by Pullman was an exact dead matched paint,....a little diversity in car colors would be welcome for real accuracy IMO, ....everybody cries about exact 100% dead on color match and authenticity, but the real railroads didn’t even come close to 100% dead matched colors all the time,....I don’t get it....

Pat

Valid statement and I'm by no means a rivet counter. I won't mind if the color is a little off, just asking out of curiosity.

@Ron045 posted:

Do you remember a tv show called Ice Pilots which features Buffalo Airways?

My son built an RC DC-3 and wanted to model it after Buffalo Air.  He actually contacted the owner and asked what color green they use for their planes.

Buffalo Joe's reply.  Whatever green we got in the hanger son.  Go find your favor shade and paint it.

Ron

Exactly!..if Pullman matched color perfectly on every car they ever made, that’d be one heck of a feat!...and the paint vendor at the time,  would be ripping their hair out of their heads on every spray out,....people that cry about dead on paint matching on model trains crack me up, .....I’m sorry,....but good golly, are you representing a model railroad, or a 63 split window vette?....

Pat

@Peter B posted:

Valid statement and I'm by no means a rivet counter. I won't mind if the color is a little off, just asking out of curiosity.

Just a tiny bit off would actually look the most realistic, ....mixed in amongst the other cars would bring a chilling level of realism,...I’m sure Atlas will get it close,...the unlettered cars open a lot of avenues!...I’m all in!.

Pat

If Atlas is able to match MTH Pullman green it will be a feat I have never been able to achieve despite about 100 attempts. Maybe when Mike walks out the door he could drop a scrap of paper with the long held secret formula for his Pullman green. Com’on Mike, please?

Pete

I have no doubt Atlas will do a great job producing these cars and glad this tooling got a great home. Again even if the color is a little off I won't mind it besides nothing is perfect.

I also share your bewilderment about the need for exact matching colors versus the prototypical various shades of dirt that the real ones acquired after decades of deferred/no maintenance. I guess it's just another example (like the 20-foot tall gateman and the house-sized switch machines) of the toy-versus-real argument.

Atlas cars priced just under one hundred dollars per copy make GGD cars priced between $110 and $150 very reasonable.  Beth's sales ought to increase.  John

If only they were doing them in tuscan instead of green, I'd be on board. I've had a very rare set of Soo Line passenger train decals for years waiting for some tuscan cars to put them on (assuming the decals are still good!). I rode one of the last Soo Line passenger trains as a youngster; the Soo used only tuscan (more or less) heavyweights.

@breezinup posted:

If only they were doing them in tuscan instead of green, I'd be on board. I've had a very rare set of Soo Line passenger train decals for years waiting for some tuscan cars to put them on (assuming the decals are still good!). I rode one of the last Soo Line passenger trains as a youngster; the Soo used only tuscan (more or less) heavyweights.

Not a huge deal to repaint them. This car was Tuscan. Plus you don’t have pay 100 bucks per car rather a fraction of that.

Consider this. If you buy an unlettered car with the intention of lettering it you have to prepare it for decals which usually means spraying a gloss, then overspraying the decals. That car has to be disassembled to do this. Repainting a car to a different color requires the same amount of disassembly.

Pete

Wish they would do a Maine Central set to go with MTH's upcoming MEC 470 Pacific!

@MrMuffin'sTrains posted:

Atlas O making Unlettered Heavyweight Passenger Cars

Atlas O announced that they would be making unlettered single cars using the tooling they acquired from MTH. These are the 18", formerly MTH Premier cars. They confirmed this week that these unlettered cars will be painted in Pullman green and have black roofs.

We are planning custom sets lettered for Illinois Central, Louisville & Nashville and Pere Marquette - other suggestions?

Ann Arbor RR

No one has ever made a set of Clinchfield passenger cars (they are supposed to be brown). No one has ever made a set of Virginian passenger cars (Pullman Green.

Scott Smith

@MrMuffin'sTrains posted:

If you'd like to order your own unlettered cars, you can find them here, preorder sale priced at $98.96 each:

• Atlas O 3007036 - 70' Madison Heavyweight Combine "Unlettered"
• Atlas O 3007037 - 70' Madison Heavyweight Baggage "Unlettered"
• Atlas O 3007038 - 70' Madison Heavyweight RPO "Unlettered"
• Atlas O 3007039 - 70' Madison Heavyweight Diner "Unlettered"
• Atlas O 3007040 - 70' Madison Heavyweight Observation "Unlettered"

No coaches?

I was only hoping for some coaches in Pullman green when they were first announced. It just seems that the coaches would be a big seller even if they had be ordered in sets of two or three cars. 

@breezinup posted:

No coaches?

I agree.  Why no coaches?

Who's going to eat in the diner?  Whose luggage will be in the baggage car?  Who's going to observe in the observation car?

Bizarre consist.

Atlas is making painted unlettered heavyweight coaches, SKU is : 3007035.

https://shop.atlasrr.com/p-598...oach-unlettered.aspx

@breezinup posted:

If only they were doing them in tuscan instead of green, I'd be on board. I've had a very rare set of Soo Line passenger train decals for years waiting for some tuscan cars to put them on (assuming the decals are still good!). I rode one of the last Soo Line passenger trains as a youngster; the Soo used only tuscan (more or less) heavyweights.

I can paint a set in Tuscan....

@breezinup posted:

No coaches?

I missed the coaches and added them above..... silly me

And Williams begat MTH

and MTH begat Atlas.

John

As l often chuckle sardonically, at the demand for the over-done, so l did at the demand for coaches, remembering "Madison cars", and the need to track down Walthers kits to get head-end cars.  And then there were K-Line Heavyweights, and aluminum cars, available in head- end cars. And here you have a full deck. And l can think C&S, (Texas to Denver), and Rock Island, and what other underdone regional roads? 

Norton, those are gorgeous!  Repainted MTH?

Elsewhere there are modelers confused about the title "Madison" used for anything not streamlined.  You guys ought to straighten that out.

@bob2 posted:

Norton, those are gorgeous!  Repainted MTH?

Elsewhere there are modelers confused about the title "Madison" used for anything not streamlined.  You guys ought to straighten that out.

Thanks Bob. Only the combine is a repaint. The coach was a special order done by Beth at PDT, unlettered Pullman Green. She only offered coaches so I had to find a combine to repaint. Still looking for a baggage car. I may just get a Labelle kit.

Pete

How about a set in Rutland? The Rutland did have some steel passenger cars and none have been made in o scale. I’ve looked at having some custom painted and may ultimately do that if not available. A lot of O scale Rutland fans out there.

http://users.rcn.com/jimdu4/Coach_723.htm

PRR Steam,  Look for an undecorated GGD coach with 3 axle trucks. Highball Graphics has O scale decal sets.

The undecorated MTH car may work. Not sure if letterboard is wide enough on these cars to accommodate the Rutland lettering. There are multiple decals in the set that can be placed below the windows. Not sure where these molds are going to end up. This is the set that will sell. Repainted and decaled with Highball Graphics.

@Dave_C posted:

PRR Steam,  Look for an undecorated GGD coach with 3 axle trucks. Highball Graphics has O scale decal sets.

The undecorated MTH car may work. Not sure if letterboard is wide enough on these cars to accommodate the Rutland lettering. There are multiple decals in the set that can be placed below the windows. Not sure where these molds are going to end up. This is the set that will sell. Repainted and decaled with Highball Graphics.

Beautiful cars Dave! I may end up ordering the decals and undecorated if an Atlas custom run isn’t produced. I’ll have to check the decals on for fit on my other MTH cars

AWESOME... GO RUTLAND!!!!

@Dennis-LaRock posted:

AWESOME... GO RUTLAND!!!!

For those interested in the Rutland on my post above, Mr Muffin has put up a custom run set on his website. They must be preordered to hit the minimum

https://mrmuffinstrains.com/pr...mp;mc_eid=28bc42e39e