Automobiles/ Trucks 1/43-1/50 scale let’s see them

Now with some light weathering.

Richie C. posted:

Now with some light weathering.

Richie. Nice 

old switcher and Studebaker

Ray great pic if you haven’t posted this in SWSAT you should 

That's funny Pat, I have the same Chevy in green, with the exact broken bumper ends...........

lee drennen posted:

Ray great pic if you haven’t posted this in SWSAT you should 

Yes...good idea, thanks

Quarter Gauger 48 posted:

That's funny Pat, I have the same Chevy in green, with the exact broken bumper ends...........

Ted, 

Typical Chevy whether in real life or toy!   

I have a Chevy and its one issue after another from day one!   

OK Forum Members on this Thread...I have a mystery car for you.  The pictures below show a 40's ish car, 4 door sedan that has been take over for advertising by "Sara's Cookies".  Its a rather nice model, all 4 doors open and it has a full interior.  Its reasonably heavy and robust and has rubber tires on the wheels.  It is the correct scale as best I can approximate it by comparing it to others that are marked.  NOW - here is the question.  DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT KIND OF CAR THIS IS?  I have been all over the car body and underneath and there is not a single logo or decoration that reveals the type of car.  Its a mystery.  Any and all help would be most appreciated...hey its raining hard here in Texas so maybe some of you guys have the time to take a look and make a guess.

Thanks for the help

Don McErlean

Don, haven’t identified the car yet but i’ll start the bidding as a Dodge. here’s a  ‘46 Dodge truck which has a similar front end and grill work to your second picture. 

Don McErlean posted:

OK Forum Members on this Thread...I have a mystery car for you.  The pictures below show a 40's ish car, 4 door sedan that has been take over for advertising by "Sara's Cookies".  Its a rather nice model, all 4 doors open and it has a full interior.  Its reasonably heavy and robust and has rubber tires on the wheels.  It is the correct scale as best I can approximate it by comparing it to others that are marked.  NOW - here is the question.  DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT KIND OF CAR THIS IS?  I have been all over the car body and underneath and there is not a single logo or decoration that reveals the type of car.  Its a mystery.  Any and all help would be most appreciated...hey its raining hard here in Texas so maybe some of you guys have the time to take a look and make a guess.

Thanks for the help

Don McErlean

Don I believe this is an English vehicle.

Jerrman- Thanks by looking at some of the cars others have posted I thought Dodge was a good start. 

Allegheny- Wow am English vehicle , well that is certainly possible. Many of their cars looked remarkably like ours and are most certainly a mystery to me

thank you both for your thoughts 

Don McErlean 

Don, I think this a generic model of a late 30s car.  No specific brand model. this type of toy was typical of 1930s toy manufacturers, of car and motor cycles and air planes.... All metal products and sturdily made.....

Don, I think Allegheny is on to something.  That rear body styling is classic for a British cab.  While the telephone number format appear American/Canadian (and, I got no web hits for the name or number). 

Notice the 1950s example and the 1960s/1970s Beardmore designs in this Hackney Carriage (Wikipedia)  topic.  The grills are a little off from your model but the rear lines, tires (tyres), and hubcaps are spot on.  I got no hits for 1940s hackneys but photos of a 1950s Austin show a similar rear design.

Your model is really great looking and it's neat to have a full interior not to mention that all doors open.  Nice.

Tomlinson (I love a mystery) Run Railroad

That isn't any dialing format for the States I've ever seen. It needs 4 trailing digits. 40s-50s, letters proceeding numbers was common, but the 7 digit total was the same. 

I found a vintage AMT 57 Chevy mini model. Except there was a 68 Stingray inside the box and the chrome was missing 

I'll cram something in there for a kustom.  The back will be easy; Mako-ish. The front I'm thinking fog lights and or an aluminum heat sink grill (fins) as filler.

UPS truck was among a young renters old toys. He parted with it without much remorse.   A friction wind up. Worn side lettering, but cool toy.

I also spotted a Corona Beer truck in about 1/64. That may take a serious haggling to nab now, but I gotta. 😈

Don McErlean posted:

OK Forum Members on this Thread...I have a mystery car for you.  The pictures below show a 40's ish car, 4 door sedan that has been take over for advertising by "Sara's Cookies".  Its a rather nice model, all 4 doors open and it has a full interior.  Its reasonably heavy and robust and has rubber tires on the wheels.  It is the correct scale as best I can approximate it by comparing it to others that are marked.  NOW - here is the question.  DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT KIND OF CAR THIS IS?  I have been all over the car body and underneath and there is not a single logo or decoration that reveals the type of car.  Its a mystery.  Any and all help would be most appreciated...hey its raining hard here in Texas so maybe some of you guys have the time to take a look and make a guess.

Thanks for the help

Don McErlean

Don, I entered the telephone number into Google. It gave me a crooked bitcoin site.

Allegheny posted:

Don McErlean posted:

OK Forum Members on this Thread...I have a mystery car for you.  The pictures below show a 40's ish car, 4 door sedan that has been take over for advertising by "Sara's Cookies".  Its a rather nice model, all 4 doors open and it has a full interior.  Its reasonably heavy and robust and has rubber tires on the wheels.  It is the correct scale as best I can approximate it by comparing it to others that are marked.  NOW - here is the question.  DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT KIND OF CAR THIS IS?  I have been all over the car body and underneath and there is not a single logo or decoration that reveals the type of car.  Its a mystery.  Any and all help would be most appreciated...hey its raining hard here in Texas so maybe some of you guys have the time to take a look and make a guess.

Thanks for the help

Don McErlean

Don I believe this is an English vehicle.

Don,

I believe is a loose rendition of a 1939 - 1947 Austin Six, Eight or Twelve

The Austin 12 is a large four-door family saloon that was produced by Austin. It was launched in August 1939 and was produced until replaced in 1947 by the similar-sized but larger-engined Austin A70 Hampshire. For much of this period, however, it was provided only for military and government use.

Check out the rear side window, it has the same shape as the models. 

I'm not certain but the model may be by Dinky.  See the 1939 -1940 see the attached brochure 

Front looks most like Pontiac. I'm sure they made a humpback too.

other than the grille and suicide doors it is similar in some respects as a '39 Buick

Humm ... the Buick even has the split windshield that the model has.  Was that just a model maker's touch for added strength?  Of course, as one of us has suggested, the model could simply be "generic" to the period.  Still a cool model.

Allegheny posted:

Allegheny posted:

Don McErlean posted:

OK Forum Members on this Thread...I have a mystery car for you.  The pictures below show a 40's ish car, 4 door sedan that has been take over for advertising by "Sara's Cookies".  Its a rather nice model, all 4 doors open and it has a full interior.  Its reasonably heavy and robust and has rubber tires on the wheels.  It is the correct scale as best I can approximate it by comparing it to others that are marked.  NOW - here is the question.  DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT KIND OF CAR THIS IS?  I have been all over the car body and underneath and there is not a single logo or decoration that reveals the type of car.  Its a mystery.  Any and all help would be most appreciated...hey its raining hard here in Texas so maybe some of you guys have the time to take a look and make a guess.

Thanks for the help

Don McErlean

Don I believe this is an English vehicle.

Don,

I believe is a loose rendition of a 1939 - 1947 Austin Six, Eight or Twelve

The Austin 12 is a large four-door family saloon that was produced by Austin. It was launched in August 1939 and was produced until replaced in 1947 by the similar-sized but larger-engined Austin A70 Hampshire. For much of this period, however, it was provided only for military and government use.

Check out the rear side window, it has the same shape as the models. 

I'm not certain but the model may be by Dinky.  See the 1939 -1940 see the attached brochure 

 

Don,

Earlier today I ran across this and I believe it could have been actually a 1936 Oldsmobile Series F Sedan.

The split window on the model kept bugging me and that's helped me zero in on this vehicle.

I found the exact model of the toy car!

It was made by Superior Toys

Thanks for the idea for the refer! I'll have to give it a try.

Wow! Guys what a response. Thank you. 

Allegheny finding the original toy and box was really super at least I know the maker and a value. 

Tomlinson, Sidehack, Adriatic thank you all for the help. The pictures you provided do look like the car as does the Austin. Perhaps as someone said it was just a “generic 30’s car” designed to resemble whatever we liked.

So I am going to keep an open mind but thank you all again. Your responses certainly brightened a dreary day here in central Tx. 

Respectfully 

Don McErlean 

It is not the Austin.  Steering wheel is on the left'...  It was customary for builders of private label autos to take many features from the big 3 and incorporate very similar looking parts on their models.  For instance, in the mid 50s, take a look at the Hudson Jet. It looks like a Mercury in the front.  A small caddy in the back.  The Aero WIllys, the Jay Henry, looks like a multitude of cars from the 50s.  The 20s, 30s, other than the luxury cars, Chords, Pierce Arrow, etc.  All the cars look quite the same.  I have an extensive library on design and manufacturing of cars.

I cannot find an exact replica of the cookie car'.  I think it is a definite generic'...

Here is my entry:  Its a crude model of a 1939 Chevy Master Deluxe Sedan

Note the two sets of slats flanking the lower part of the grille, the horizontal bars on the side of the hood, the way the grille tapers, the headlights mounted between the fenders and the hood (and not attached to the hood) and the bumper overriders.  I would guess the company did not want to pay a licensing fee to GM, so they simply called it a Deluxe Sedan

Excellent job finding the model in its original packaging, Allegheny.  That's some sleuthing.  And, I like that Chevy, John.  I'm tempted to add a model from the 30s to the carpet layout because they had great styling back then, but it's a little beyond my era.

TRRR

Fellows one could not ask for better help and support.  While not completely nailing down the make / model it is clear from many examples shown that it is a mid-late 30's vehicle and the styling was reasonably representative of a number of makes at that time.  Quarter Gauger48 thanks for the point of view that it may be generic and that may be as close as we get.  That said TomlinsonRunRR, Allegheny, Side Hack, Adriatic, and John Sethian gave me 39 Buick, 36 Olds, 39 Chevy , and an Austin 12.  Thank you all, the pictures alone allow me to at least fix the time period of the car and luckily its right into the period of my layout, which I have set at early post war, especially since you couldn't buy a new car from '41 to at around '46 , so there were a lot of late to mid 30's cars running around when I was a boy (born '44).   The first car I remember in our family was a '36 Chevy followed by a '48 Pontiac fastback.  Dad didn't get a new car till we got a '55 Chevy, 210, 4 door sedan, 6 cylinder, automatic, brand new from the dealer (wow was that a day!!).  

Thanks again for your postings and heip

Don McErlean

Okay Lee, as promised.  Finished up the Tamiya 1:48 scale British Utility RAF vehicle.  It is a civilian version, as I didn't want a military themed unit.  I must admit'...And I again take my hat off to the guys that build the 1:87 HO scale vehicles. I could do those when I was a kid. Now 1:48 is a  real challenge and some of the tiny parts are quite fiddly....  First up the real thing.

I painted the canvas top flat green.  Then I covered it with paper from a cheap napkin.  Soaked it white Elmers glue, and shaped it with a stiff brush and lots of water.  Weathered with "Pan Pastels".  I think it looks like real worn canvas....

And here's the kit'.

Hi Fellows...now that we sort of ID's the "Sara's Cookies" 1930's vintage car I discovered another one as I continue my quest to make more room for trains in the train room.  This one is well identified.

It is a 1958 Chrysler New Yorker, Cabriolet (Convertible).  It is 1/43 scale and comes from a company called "Eligor" and seems like it would be targeted towards the car collector not a trains person.  Apparently, each car that they sold came packed in its own transparent plastic display case and IAW the catalog that they packed with each car their product line was very large.  Mostly foreign makes except for a few (like this Chrysler) and a number of different vehicle types (panel van, pick up, tow truck...etc) based on 1930's Model A Fords.  I most likely bought this years ago and have no memory of what it cost.

Model as bought, in transparent display box inside carton.

Side view - Note simulated "wind wings".

Front view, showing quite a bit of detail in grill and hood ornamentation.

Rear view with classic 50's tail fins and enormous tail lights

Nicely detailed interior.  I remember these, there were no "bucket seats" for big Chrysler's , you took your living room with you!

Here is one side of the Eligor catalog.  Full color and printed on both sides and one seemed to be packed with each car. 

I know the model looks large, but these were enormous cars when new in the 50's.  Today it would take at least 2 parking spaces to fit the car into.  It would be easily as large as my 3 seat SUV.

Keep Healthy and having fun

Don McErlean

Interesting find especially with the color catalog, Don.  With the "S.A." on the box, I wonder whether this car is of French manufacture.  I like that yellow Mobile (?) tanker in the catalog, too.

Is there a model name on the front fenders?  It's hard to tell.

Tomlinson Run Railroad

         Time for little Break along the Way'

Chester and Phillis , pull over and take a little break from driving while on their road trip to Yellow Stone national Park.... and then on to Mount Rushmore National Memorial....

Sure has been a long trip today Chester:  This is a nice spot, why don't we hit the trailer and call it a night'...

Sounds like a good idea Phill'... I'm beat too...

Ted...great scene...love the Ford woody and the camper...taking that " break"seems like a good way to kick off the trip to Yellowstone  

Tuckers, Woody with trailer, 1950 Mercury, Corvette, Divco Sealtest Milk delivery truck. 

Patrick, like Ted, great pair up with the "woody' and the camper...reminiscent of a great time in America  The '58-'60 Vette looks pretty nice too...for me, the best years of the Vette...from '58 to '67...

Ted looks very good glad you finished it

Don. I’m like that Chrysler Vertible thanks for posting

Patrick.  Nice pics as always I like the third pic the best 

Don McErlean posted:

 

It is a 1958 Chrysler New Yorker, Cabriolet (Convertible).  It is 1/43 scale and comes from a company called "Eligor" and seems like it would be targeted towards the car collector not a trains person.  Apparently, each car that they sold came packed in its own transparent plastic display case and IAW the catalog that they packed with each car their product line was very large.  Mostly foreign makes except for a few (like this Chrysler) and a number of different vehicle types (panel van, pick up, tow truck...etc) based on 1930's Model A Fords.  I most likely bought this years ago and have no memory of what it cost.

Model as bought, in transparent display box inside carton.

Don, picked my model up about 20-years ago at a semi-local train shop.  Here is mind in the dark blue box with gold pin-stripe at ends.

Had to have it because this was my first car bought May 1962 for $1200.   Was white over white with red/white interior.  Twin aerials mounted far back on each fin.  Rear view mirror mounted on the dash.  Powered by a 392 ci, 345 HP 10:1 compression HEMI.  Still have that engine.  The speedometer was marked up to 130 MPH with the peg about another 5 to 10 MPH passed.

Bring this up because in October 1962 driving to Cleveland with no other cars around saw a red Chevy coming up in passing lane.  When it got beside me slowed down and saw it was a 409.  So at 16 put the pedal to the metal.  Neither one of us could make head way.  Looked down at the speedo the needle was pegged!

Ron

I saw that John Horsman passed away the other day. Horsman was an engineer for John Wyer's team, and was instrumental in some of the successes of the Ford GT40, the Porsche 917, and later the Gulf-Mirage. A flat-car featuring some of his work:

Brings back a lot of memories watching Le Mans with The Old Man on ABC's Wide World of Sports.

PD

Ted, I like the opening doors on the green woody. Do your recall the manufacturer?   It makes for a great scene.  I have two woodies (one a nicely detailed convertible) but sadly neither has opening doors.

Tomlinson Run Railroad

TomlinsonRunRR posted:

Ted, I like the opening doors on the green woody. Do your recall the manufacturer?   It makes for a great scene.  I have two woodies (one a nicely detailed convertible) but sadly neither has opening doors.

Tomlinson Run Railroad

Hi Tom.  this car is on DieCast Direct".. on sale, was $8.00.  It is a "Kinsmart" brand.  Unbeknown, when I ordered it, it is actually a 1:40 scale.  So it is a tad smaller then the standard 1:43 scale cars'.... My wife liked the color and the woody style... so I ordered it... Not a bad little model... has a nice interior detail as well.  The interior does require painting though.. .. 

Quarter Gauger 48 posted:

TomlinsonRunRR posted:

Ted, I like the opening doors on the green woody. Do your recall the manufacturer?   It makes for a great scene.  I have two woodies (one a nicely detailed convertible) but sadly neither has opening doors.

Tomlinson Run Railroad

Hi Tom.  this car is on DieCast Direct".. on sale, was $8.00.  It is a "Kinsmart" brand.  Unbeknown, when I ordered it, it is actually a 1:40 scale.  So it is a tad smaller then the standard 1:43 scale cars'.... My wife liked the color and the woody style... so I ordered it... Not a bad little model... has a nice interior detail as well.  The interior does require painting though.. .. 

Great to know, Ted.  Thanks for the reply.  I used to find Kinsmart brand cars with operating doors for the layout at CVS.  The current selection is in the 1:30-something range these days, so I've had to pass.  It's a great looking car and good to know it's on sale at one of our advertisers.  Thanks again,

TRRR