How many road names have the foot long "baby madison" cars appeared in? Off the top of my head, the originals, PRR, Crescent, PE, and Milwaukee Road. What else is out there?
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How many road names have the foot long "baby madison" cars appeared in? Off the top of my head, the originals, PRR, Crescent, PE, and Milwaukee Road. What else is out there?
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Originals
PE
milwaukee
PRR
Crescent
Wabash
Blue Comet
NYC
Hallowe'en.
There was a nice TCA set in dark green, with an engine to match, released over several years in the '80s.
There was also a yellow set, made for the TTOS.
How many road names have the foot long "baby madison" cars appeared in? Off the top of my head, the originals, PRR, Crescent, PE, and Milwaukee Road. What else is out there?
For the record, the cars illustrated below are the 14" Madison cars. The "baby madisons" originated with MPC. To my knowledge, the "babies" have not been made in the plain Tuscan scheme. The Wabash and the Crescent (and maybe others) have been made in both sizes--be careful when buying!
Yes, and the "Lionel Lines" car example originally posted by Montclair is a completely different car from the others as well, like the ones shown with the GG1 - a regular Madison car, which originated in the Postwar era. The rest are the so-called Baby Madisons, which have a different design and are a shorter car. The Baby Madisons are nice cars - very detailed molds, and the cars are not all the same; they have several variations of window placement, doors, and details that vary with the different cars, which is nice.
Wabash cars have been made in both sizes, as mentioned, but Lionel has not made the Crescent cars in the larger Madison car size, to my knowledge - only in the Baby Madisons and the scale heavyweights.
Lionel has indeed made the Baby Madisons in Tuscan - specifically, Pennsylvania - and in fact these have been made twice, first during the MPC era and again with the more modern version a few years ago. Another set that has been remade is the Alton, and I believe the Chessie as well. There was also a modern style set of Baby Madisons made in the Union Pacific roadname.
The newer styles have finished interiors with clear windows, and better overhead lighting. I have a set of the modern Pennsys and have put passenger figures in them, and they look great. The lighting is very nice, and in "evening" views of these cars they look just about like the scale versions, only shorter.
Another advantage of the newer style is that the tops can be removed with just two screws that are accessible from the bottom of the cars, so it's a snap. The older style required much more effort (if a bulb needed replacement, for example), including squeezing the sides and using something to pry the top off, while being careful not to damage the car.
they also made a MP set & NW set - think around 94-96
Does anyone have a side by side shot of the two?
Is this query limited to Lionel production, or would it include the small madisons produced by Williams?
I think it's confusing enough with just the Lionel versions
They also did a set over several years for TCA in the late 70's to early 80's.
Is this query limited to Lionel production, or would it include the small madisons produced by Williams?
Williams does not make 'baby' Madison cars. They make a version of the original Postwar Style Madison car
So for MPC we have -
MILW
PRR
B&O
SOU
CNJ
Chessie
C&A
TCA
LTI -
WAB
CNW
NYC
N&W
MP
B&O
LLC -
C&A
PE
Pullman
Chessie
Strasburg
PRR
I'm sure I left some out somewhere
Not a "baby madison" car:
BTW: Lionel will be again putting them to use with the MLB Phillies-Yankees-Cubs-Red Sox passenger sets due soon.
Silver...you are correct. Thanks for the correct update of info!
I'm sure I left some out somewhere
As I mentioned above, UP. in fact, two different ones. Despite the picture, the yellow one is actually one of the modern sets, with clear windows, interiors, diaphrams, etc. There was also a single Madison car from the Western Union set.
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Note: Those Chessies pictured above are the older MPC versions. There was also a modern set with the Chessie Steam Special set with a baby Berkshire steamer; these cars are the modern style with clear windows, interiors, etc.
Another set to add: the Santa Fe
Lionel 30121 Santa Fe Baby Madison Passenger |
I have that chessie set in lionel it was made in 2005.
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