@CAPPilot posted:For a while I thought round roof cars and wagontop cars were the same.
Great explanation on this lesson Ron. 
You've help me understand that I really don't know everything even though I've been around a long time .
Thanks for sharing the info.
Robert: OH NO! I never noticed the sequence of numbers because the only PRR Merchandise Service boxcar I have is the "NO NUMBER". Now I have 15 more to collect
Best wishes
Don
I’ve not posted in this thread, but here goes, all cars painted, decaled and weathered by me…
Weaver boxcar custom painted and lettered for the NewHaven, with a Connecticut Ferroequinologists 50th anniversary decal. (Model Railroad Club)
Christmas trees were in short supply this year, so CP cut up some underutilized stock cars for use in tree transport🙈
A New Haven boxcar delivering finished lumber and moisture sensitive supplies to Vernon, passing the site of an earlier derailment. The car in the center is a former Atlas (70’s DT&I), just delivered to the NHRR
Two lightly weathered cars… a Weaver NH and a Walthers O Scale waffle-side kit. The PC flatcar (newer Atlas re-paint)just happened to be in the photographer’s way.
Lastly, this former Weaver US Army carwas painted and lettered for a prototype PC plug door. Light weathering is my preference. I have photos of most of the prototypes in a file, but not all. It’s great to work from a photo
This week a K-Line Missouri Pacific Herbie art car with Herbie taking a ride.
LINDE gas box cars.
Some more X29 trivia.
-Over 29,000 Class X29 general services boxcars built between 1924-1934.
-Similar ARA copies used by B&O, WLE, CNJ, B&M, and MEC.
-Transformed the American fleet from wood to steel, and seen everywhere in North America.
-X29b rebuilding program between 1944-1959 used the AAR design, increasing the volume each car could carry. There were still over 25,000 unmodified cars in 1950.
-Over 1,100 X29 boxcars were converted for express service from mid-1930s to early 1940s.
-UPDATE: 500 cars placed in express service in 1936. Remainder in 1942-43 as traffic dramatically increased due to WWII.
-ADDED: modifications required to make usable on passenger trains: brakes, steam and signal lines, marker light brackets, extra grab irons. They did keep their freight service trucks which made them rough riding at higher speeds.
-Largest single fleet of express cars in America.
-Seen on SF and UP trains usually shipping magazines from the east coast to the west coast.
-Never rebuilt and the last X29 cars to retire, with over half of fleet still in service in early 1960s.
All cars shown are Atlas O.
@CAPPilot posted:Some more X29 trivia.
-Over 29,000 Class X29 general services boxcars built between 1924-1934.
-Similar ARA copies used by B&O, WLE, CNJ, B&M, and MEC.
-Transformed the American fleet from wood to steel, and seen everywhere in North America.
-X29b rebuilding program between 1944-1959 used the AAR design, increasing the volume each car could carry. There were still over 25,000 unmodified cars in 1950.
-Over 1,100 X29 boxcars were converted for express service from mid-1930s to early 1940s.
-Largest single fleet of express cars in America.
-Seen on SF and UP trains usually shipping magazines from the east coast to the west coast.
-Never rebuilt and the last X29 cars to retire, with over half of fleet still in service in early 1960s.
All cars shown are Atlas O.
Great information, as always, Ron!! Thanks for posting!
My latest boxcar. Stripped, repainted and decaled by me. Scalecoat II paint and K4 decals on a Weaver 40’ Boxcar…
@trumpettrain posted:Great information, as always, Ron!! Thanks for posting!
Patrick, thank you. Made me reread the post and realized I forgot to add what modifications were done to the express cars. Added them.
Just finished up weathering this car. Also added some weight to it and some interior detail.
Here is a CNJ boxcar I weathered for my friend Randy Harrison. It was a fun project! This is an early Atlas O model.
One thing I must say is; although the cars are very lite in weight due to plastic trucks and wheels, the early Atlas O cars are well detailed. Personally, whenever I run early Atlas O cars on a freight train, I place the car directly in front of the caboose.
Before weathering process
After weathering process ... Side A 
Side B 
Roof with rust and soot from years running behind steam locomotives. 
End of car showing a bit of ware. 
Have A great Sunday all! Some Northern Pacific cars and stuck in here my Aquarium Car and Chicken Car, Thank a Vet for Freedom!
Well here we are again at the end of another weekend, its Sunday already. Great pictures and work everyone. Don Sierakowski - had never seen a Christmas tree car before. Dave Ripp - HERBIE box / MoPac and Herbie himself was really neat. BAR GP7 - Linde gas cars are certainly unique. CAPPilot - history and data on the X-29 cars was both helpful for modeling and interesting. Krieglok - Great custom work Trainwreck nate and Patrick - great weathering and Sitka - cool NP cars (I have one of my own) and the chicken and aquarium car were neat to see.
So today I have an "old friend"...and I do mean old, she is but 2-3 years younger than me, arriving on the scene in 1946-47 (I arrived in 1944). The Lionel x2454 Baby Ruth, Pennsylvania RR boxcar. She is part of the 9 1/4" series that Lionel brought out right after the war. These were followed by the 6454 series in about 1948 and then by the much more well known 6464 series which began in 1953 which were 11" long and which ran through 1969. This 2454 "Baby Ruth" car ran in '46-47 then reappeared with a 6454 number with a different coupler and a darker orange color in 1948 . It was then dropped.
Here she is the Lionel 2454 PRR "Baby Ruth" boxcar , orange / brown doors/ black lettering from 1946-47.
A close up of the slogan end of the car - to the left of the door.
Here is her railroad markings and data on the right side of the door.
Well best wishes everyone and hope you all have a happy and healthy week
Don
@trumpettrain posted:Here is a CNJ boxcar I weathered for my friend Randy Harrison. It was a fun project! This is an early Atlas O model.
One thing I must say is; although the cars are very lite in weight due to plastic trucks and wheels, the early Atlas O cars are well detailed. Personally, whenever I run early Atlas O cars on a freight train, I place the car directly in front of the caboose.
Before weathering process
After weathering process ... Side A
Side B
Roof with rust and soot from years running behind steam locomotives.
End of car showing a bit of ware.
Pat:
Bravo on another GREAT weathering job!!!!!!! You are good enough at this that you ought to consider doing this for others, also. Thank you VERY much!
Randy
@Randy Harrison posted:Pat:
Bravo on another GREAT weathering job!!!!!!! You are good enough at this that you ought to consider doing this for others, also. Thank you VERY much!
Randy
Thanks so much Randy for your confidence in my weathering endeavors! Much appreciated!! I'm thrilled you liked the cars I weathered for you!!
A pair of Weaver 40-foot Reading's pulled by an Erie Lackawanna UB25.
A car load of fresh vegetables has arrived and unloading may soon begin.
Have a great Box car Sunday all, some New Haven freight on the move.
Here are some boxcars for this fine Sunday! These are all boxcars by Weaver. 
Well hello folks, here it is BxCrSun again and a bright and warm Sunday it is in central Texas as I steal a few moments from yard work to post on one of my favorite threads. Today I have what might be called a "transition" car as it contains some aspects of pre war cars as well as post war. The car is the Lionel # 2458 PRR double door automobile car. It is a continuation of the pre war 2758 with little changed on the car body but the number ( it still retains the "new 3-41" lettering). The big change of course is that the original "box" couplers and pre war trucks have been replaced by the post war coil couplers and trucks. This car was made this way in 1946-1947. Like almost all of the pre-war freights, it is primarily made of sheet metal with add on components and detail punched or pressed into the sheet metal.
Here is a full side view, note that the rivet detail is punched in to the sheet metal sides and the ladder is a separate piece added on. Note also that it still has the "Blt 3-41" lettering under the logo next to the "X2458" product number.
A front quarter picture with the double doors open and the sheet metal roof more visible. Note that the corner steps are also add on pieces but not the ladder on the end bulkhead.
Close up of the end bulkhead and front quarter.
Close up of the rear portion of the car to the right of the double door. The black add on ladder and the add on brake wheel are easily visible in this picture. In addition note that Lionel included substantial punched in rivet detail even on the roof edge.
Well that's it for me today...Oh Yea...one of my "assistants" heard that it was BOX car Sunday and had to get in on the action.
Best wishes to all. Have a great week and stay healthy.
Don
My contribution for today is still drying after a final clear coat. 😔
Don, the Pennsy boxcar is really amazing with all the rivet details!
My pet’s participation in the hobby is destroying the shipping boxes which arrive at my house. Here Hazel and Norman patiently wait for me to finish unpacking my newest o scale delivery…
Tom
trumptrain, Does your brown Penna REA box car say anywhere on it, when empty return to?
Tom, those doggies look a little...um...unhappy. What did you say to them to get them to frown like that?
@Krieglok posted:My pet’s participation in the hobby is destroying the shipping boxes which arrive at my house. Here Hazel and Norman patiently wait for me to finish unpacking my newest o scale delivery…
Tom
Tom , my wife says " they are beautiful " . Sorry , I don't think she was referring to any boxcars 
@Arthur P. Bloom posted:Tom, those doggies look a little...um...unhappy. What did you say to them to get them to frown like that?
The one on the left is actually very anxious to get the box. The Bassett mix on the right is sort of dreading the destruction and chaos soon to happen…😊
Tom
@jim sutter posted:trumptrain, Does your brown Penna REA box car say anywhere on it, when empty return to?
Jim - It reads " When empty return to REA agent Tyrone Pa"
frumptrain, Thank you for checking that for me. I believe that's one of our Weaver custom run cars. We did a green one also.
@jim sutter posted:frumptrain, Thank you for checking that for me. I believe that's one of our Weaver custom run cars. We did a green one also.
Jim - That is great information for me to know! Thank you!
Unfortunately I never had a chance to visit your shop when you were in business. I don't remember how I came across this particular car, but my guess is I bought it used at a train show. It's great to know that I have a piece of your creativity running on my railroad
@Don McErlean posted:Well here we are again at the end of another weekend, its Sunday already. Great pictures and work everyone. Don Sierakowski - had never seen a Christmas tree car before. Dave Ripp - HERBIE box / MoPac and Herbie himself was really neat. BAR GP7 - Linde gas cars are certainly unique. CAPPilot - history and data on the X-29 cars was both helpful for modeling and interesting. Krieglok - Great custom work Trainwreck nate and Patrick - great weathering and Sitka - cool NP cars (I have one of my own) and the chicken and aquarium car were neat to see.
So today I have an "old friend"...and I do mean old, she is but 2-3 years younger than me, arriving on the scene in 1946-47 (I arrived in 1944). The Lionel x2454 Baby Ruth, Pennsylvania RR boxcar. She is part of the 9 1/4" series that Lionel brought out right after the war. These were followed by the 6454 series in about 1948 and then by the much more well known 6464 series which began in 1953 which were 11" long and which ran through 1969. This 2454 "Baby Ruth" car ran in '46-47 then reappeared with a 6454 number with a different coupler and a darker orange color in 1948 . It was then dropped.
Here she is the Lionel 2454 PRR "Baby Ruth" boxcar , orange / brown doors/ black lettering from 1946-47.
A close up of the slogan end of the car - to the left of the door.
Here is her railroad markings and data on the right side of the door.
Well best wishes everyone and hope you all have a happy and healthy week
Don
Don a bit of trivia referring to your car from Wikipedia:
Although the name of the candy bar sounds like the name of the famous baseball player Babe Ruth, the Curtiss Candy Company traditionally claimed that it was named after President Grover Cleveland's daughter, Ruth Cleveland. The candy maker, located on the same street as Wrigley Field, named the bar "Baby Ruth" in 1921, as Babe Ruth's fame was on the rise, 24 years after Cleveland had left the White House, and 17 years after his daughter, Ruth, had died. The company did not negotiate an endorsement deal with Ruth, and many saw the company's story about the origin of the name to be a devious way to avoid having to pay the baseball player any royalties. In a patent appeal, Curtiss successfully shut down a rival bar that was approved by, and named for, Ruth, on the grounds that the names were too similar.
@Krieglok - Tom thanks for the comment on my PRR Auto box car... and I loved the picture of Hazel and Norman. My wife and I (in younger days) had two full fledged Basset Hounds named Ralph and Betsy...long gone now but we still remember their antics to this day. Mark Spadaro- Great information on the "Babe Ruth" candy bar never knew that story before. Jim Sutter - the picture you posted looks like Gilbert American Flyer freights...am I right? I didn't think Lionel ever made a counter to the well known Flyer "Post" boxcar or "Chocolate" tank car among other cars shown.
Best wishes everyone, have a great week. Great posts all.
Don
@jim sutter posted:frumptrain, Thank you for checking that for me. I believe that's one of our Weaver custom run cars. We did a green one also.
Hi Jim it has been a while.
Now I have the same REA Passenger box car Pat posted a picture of above. Also have another red car road number 175276 and the green one road number 175272. Bur bought these at "Trains Limited" in Charlotte NC in 1998, long before was buying direct from you in PA. So by chance were you selling these to dealers back then?
Ron
PRRronbh'
Yes, we were selling to other stores back then. The Tuscan PRR Railway Express car was done in three numbers.
@jim sutter posted:PRRronbh'
Yes, we were selling to other stores back then. The Tuscan PRR Railway Express car was done in three numbers.
Jim were you also responsible for runs of LCCL Exp, Merchandise, REA Freight cars, Silver Exp, and Steele Sides cars?
Ron
PRRronbh,
Not sure. Would you happen to have pictures? We did the two cars below.
@jim sutter posted:PRRronbh,
Not sure. Would you happen to have pictures? We did the two cars below.
Yes have 10 of those. Unfortunately all pictures from back then are on Silver Halide. One of these days will take the negatives to a Photo store in Charlotte to get them digitized.
Ron
For this week's addition here is a vintage Atlas O Monon.
Rusty
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