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This is the oddest thing that I've ever encountered!  I've had my Lionchief 2.0 North Pole Central Steam locomotive on the layout now for a couple of weeks, and it's been working fine, controlled through my Cab2, Cab 1L or Cab3 app (I have a Base3 setup).  Today, I started up the engine, RailSounds came up fine, whistle / bell and sound effects are all great, BUT the engine doesn't respond to throttle commands from Cab2.  Thought it might be a pickup issue or dead spot on track, so I moved the locomotive and tender to the other side of the layout and nothing!  I picked up the Cab 1L, and it controlled the locomotive fine, as does the Cab3 app!  I tried cycling power to no avail.  It's my understanding that the locomotive information resides in the Base 3 (not the Cab2 remote), so I'm not sure how one remote could not work while the others do.  I know by now you're suspecting the remote's throttle has gone bad (I did), but wait... It controls the other 10 locomotives on my layout and display shelves flawlessly.  It's just the one locomotive that it won't control movement on.  Sound effects and dialog are fine.  Anyone ever had a single engine not respond to a single remote??  Appreciate your thoughts, because I'm lost!  The good news is that I can pick up my Grandson's Cab1L and run the train, but when he's here, he tends to not want to give that up.  . Thank you!

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Thanks for the response.  I thought of that, since it's happened to me in the past, but that's not the case, and if it were, it would impact all locomotives; The others are fine.  Your response got me thinking about something else though, and it looks like the speed limit inadvertently got set on this engine (thick line along throttle indicator), yet as you'll see from the photo attached, the speed limit indicator is not "on" (icon would be dark).  I pressed and held to try to clear, and "set" the speed instead.  So, I cleared it (icon not dark) and still to no avail.  I am starting to believe it's a speed limit issue though.  I just don't know how to clear it when it's supposedly not set.  Any thoughts would be appreciated!

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This is a new one for me.  The brake was NOT applied (slider all the way up), but the remote was behaving like it was.  I slid the slider all the way down, then all the way up again, and this seemed to clear the situation and loco is running as it should be.  I've no idea how that happened as I typically do not use the sliding train brake (because of this).  Instead, I use the engine brake on the right of the remote, and have it set to "Hold" when released.  I know that I don't get any of the cool sounds this way, but I also don't have to worry about forgetting the brake is on when starting another train.  What I've learned from this little "episode" is that it makes no difference the physical position of the switch.  I guess you sometimes need to slide "On" then back "Off" to reset it.  I feel a bit foolish, but appreciate the friendly reminder, which prompted my re-looking at the brake instead of the speed limit!  THANK YOU!

This is a new one for me.  The brake was NOT applied (slider all the way up), but the remote was behaving like it was.  I slid the slider all the way down, then all the way up again, and this seemed to clear the situation and loco is running as it should be.  I've no idea how that happened as I typically do not use the sliding train brake (because of this).  Instead, I use the engine brake on the right of the remote, and have it set to "Hold" when released.  I know that I don't get any of the cool sounds this way, but I also don't have to worry about forgetting the brake is on when starting another train.  What I've learned from this little "episode" is that it makes no difference the physical position of the switch.  I guess you sometimes need to slide "On" then back "Off" to reset it.  I feel a bit foolish, but appreciate the friendly reminder, which prompted my re-looking at the brake instead of the speed limit!  THANK YOU!

This is normal behavior. At some point you slid the train brake whether by accident or on purpose for that engine.  You switched to a new engine and probably noticed the physical location of the slider and pushed it back up.  The way the system is designed, is to remember the train brake setting for that locomotive so if you switch engines and readjust for another engine and then switch back, the previous engine continues to operate as it was until you physically change the slider again.

Thank you for that clarification, Marty.  I wasn't aware that the brake position and speed limit resided with the remote.  I guess I always thought it was stored in the base.  Now that I'm aware, it brings up a question on speed limit.  I know how to set them on Cab2, but my grandson is only allowed to use the Cab1L when he comes to run trains. (I'm not mean about it, but the Cab2 is irreplaceable, so better that his little hands don't drop it.). So the question is, can speed limit be set on the Cab 1L?  I know there used to be a process to set it on Cab 1, but that doesn't seem to work on the 1L, so not sure if it's still a possibility.  Again, if Speed limits were stored in the base, this wouldn't be a concern.  He's pretty cautious and respectful at 4, but I envision when he gets older, he'll want to see "how fast they can go" so I'm trying to prepare for those days ahead of time.  . Thank you!

The train brake must be in the command base.  I just tried two CAB2's with the Legacy system, and I could stop the train with the train brake on one, but override it with the other remote.  No matter what combination I tried, I could always get things moving again from the other remote.  And here I thought that it was stored in the remote, but apparently not, at least for the Legacy command system.

The train brake must be in the command base.  I just tried two CAB2's with the Legacy system, and I could stop the train with the train brake on one, but override it with the other remote.  No matter what combination I tried, I could always get things moving again from the other remote.  And here I thought that it was stored in the remote, but apparently not, at least for the Legacy command system.

If it was in the base, then the other remote would show the same train brake setting.  It shows the TB setting of that remote.  It does not.  I suspect you could get into a train brake fight with some one and not even know it.

I really appreciate both of you taking the time to respond, and for John to pull out a second CAB 2 to see how it behaved on his layout.  Very nice of both of you! After extensive testing, here's what I can report.  The train brake is definitely stored in the remote and not the base.  If I apply the brake on my CAB2, I can still override in the CAB 1L and CAB3.  Conversely, if I apply it on one of those, I can override in the CAB2 (after releasing the brake slider of course).  Speed limit is a bit different.  If I set the speed limit in either the CAB 2 or CAB3 app, the speed limit transfers to the other device, and can't be overridden (although it can be reset on the second device, which carries back over to first).  However, setting the speed limit on either of those seems to have no impact on the CAB1L.  You can still crank that orange throttle around and have the trains sailing around on the layout.  This is a bit counter-intuitive (to me) since the CAB 1L is the remote that I hand to my grandkids or friends when they're looking at the layout and ask if they can "drive." So if any remote needs to be able to set a speed limit (even if it needed to be done independently), it's the CAB1L. I know there was a sequence of keystrokes on the old CAB 1L that allowed you to set speed limit on that remote, but when I tried that sequence (3 times) on the CAB 1L, it didn't set a limit.  I'm surprised no one has mentioned this functionality change before.  I know the CAB 1L isn't the "sexiest" of remotes, but it's rock solid stable and doesn't have a screen that can break, which is why it's my "remote of choice" for sharing.

I know the CAB 1L isn't the "sexiest" of remotes, but it's rock solid stable and doesn't have a screen that can break, which is why it's my "remote of choice" for sharing.

That's also why I reach for the CAB1L nine times out of ten for simple running.  I use the CAB2 when I want to manipulate the train brake for special effects, etc.

We think alike!  BTW, I just ordered another two of your isolated rail signal drivers from Hennings. Those are perhaps the best electrical component in the hobby!  I’ve started making my own isolated track by removing the pin and cross-track connecting bar, then shaving a tiny bit off the end of the rail with a dremel. Much more reliable than the isolated rail piece sold by Lionel, and doesn’t rely on a 5” straight for the isolated section to begin. I have curves leading up to my crossings, and like to provide a little “advance notice” to help add realism. Seriously though, those isolated drivers are awesome!  I now have employed 6 in my layout.

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