Frank
Rick do you have a picture of CN 6019? Thanks
Bill,
I have four pictures that I took of the exterior of 6019, and one taken inside the cab. I don't know how to post pictures, yet... so that's not much help.
If you Goggle -
CN LOCOMOTIVE PHOTO ROSTER(when the page comes up look for SD40QRM... you should be able to find 6019).
also using Goggle, enter -
Prince Rupert Rail Images... look for CN 6019/SD40u class GF-630b
For your information... some of the locomotives history -
CN 6019 was previously - CN 5076, a SD40 class GF-30c built in 1969. CN 5076 was retired on January 31, 1995, and, that same year, was re-manufactured by AMF Technotransport into 6019.
CN 6019 was then listed as a SD40u class GF-630b.
I call the 6019 a SD40-3 because that's what the engineer told me was written on it's builders plate. I don't know if 6019 went through another rebuild to become a SD40-3.
When I entered the cab with the engineer... I specifically asked him what type of unit we were in, because I couldn't identify it. I told the engineer... it looked like some type of SD40. He, the engineer, wasn't sure either, so he went and read the builders plate.
Anyway... that was a once in a lifetime experience, and I am really thankful for the opportunity. I got to move that, multiple unit, long train about a mile, got her up to about notch 4, and we even had to switch tracks. I was beaming, and my wife was driving beside us watching the action.
Rick
I have four pictures that I took of the exterior of 6019, and one taken inside the cab. I don't know how to post pictures, yet... so that's not much help.
If you Goggle -
CN LOCOMOTIVE PHOTO ROSTER(when the page comes up look for SD40QRM... you should be able to find 6019).
also using Goggle, enter -
Prince Rupert Rail Images... look for CN 6019/SD40u class GF-630b
For your information... some of the locomotives history -
CN 6019 was previously - CN 5076, a SD40 class GF-30c built in 1969. CN 5076 was retired on January 31, 1995, and, that same year, was re-manufactured by AMF Technotransport into 6019.
CN 6019 was then listed as a SD40u class GF-630b.
I call the 6019 a SD40-3 because that's what the engineer told me was written on it's builders plate. I don't know if 6019 went through another rebuild to become a SD40-3.
When I entered the cab with the engineer... I specifically asked him what type of unit we were in, because I couldn't identify it. I told the engineer... it looked like some type of SD40. He, the engineer, wasn't sure either, so he went and read the builders plate.
Anyway... that was a once in a lifetime experience, and I am really thankful for the opportunity. I got to move that, multiple unit, long train about a mile, got her up to about notch 4, and we even had to switch tracks. I was beaming, and my wife was driving beside us watching the action.
Rick
Rick that is a great story and I am sure oone that you will always have. I wondered about remanfacturing the Diesels. I have seen some film of them making new units where everything is built up in modules and then arrives on the assembly floor. I was surprised at how easy they could move the assembly around on a cusion of air.
Rick if you want to email me pictures that you want to have posted I would be more than glad to do it for you. My e mail address is in my profile. Bill
Rick if you want to email me pictures that you want to have posted I would be more than glad to do it for you. My e mail address is in my profile. Bill
CNR Models on Display
Here are just a few more pictures of my collection. There are many more pictures to come. I'll put them up as soon as I get the chance...
Regards, Stefan
Here are just a few more pictures of my collection. There are many more pictures to come. I'll put them up as soon as I get the chance...
Regards, Stefan
Bill,
Thanks for the offer... check your e-mail.
Rick
Thanks for the offer... check your e-mail.
Rick
Stefan,
You've got yourself an excellent roster of Canadian National motive power.
Rick
You've got yourself an excellent roster of Canadian National motive power.
Rick
...there are still a few models I'd like to get one day. I missed the MTH SD40-3T and I'll pass on the anounced narrow-nose Dash-8's since they will not have the new PS-3 board. I would like to see some of the "Draper Taper" units - EMD SD50F/ SD60F, GE Dash8-40CM or the Bombardier HR616. Also the GMD-1 would be a great model. Just dreaming...
Regards, Stefan
Regards, Stefan
BNSF MIKE This intermodal mess is for you 
[URL=http://princerupertrailimages....0_05_01_archive.html]CP Rail having a bad day[/URL]
[URL=http://princerupertrailimages....0_05_01_archive.html]CP Rail having a bad day[/URL]
quote:Originally posted by VOX:
Bill,
I have four pictures that I took of the exterior of 6019, and one taken inside the cab. I don't know how to post pictures, yet... so that's not much help.
If you Goggle -
CN LOCOMOTIVE PHOTO ROSTER(when the page comes up look for SD40QRM... you should be able to find 6019).
also using Goggle, enter -
Prince Rupert Rail Images... look for CN 6019/SD40u class GF-630b
Rick
Rick what a GREAT WEB SITE. tHIS GUY HAS a lot of great PICTURES POSTED. tHANKS FOR THE TIP
Stefan,
I'm with you re: the cowl units... I'm not sure how many share our taste for the cowl units, though... Bill?
Speaking of Bill... Bill did you find 6019? I wonder if MTH would make me a Premier version of CN 6019... I might be in for one if they did?
Rick
I'm with you re: the cowl units... I'm not sure how many share our taste for the cowl units, though... Bill?
Speaking of Bill... Bill did you find 6019? I wonder if MTH would make me a Premier version of CN 6019... I might be in for one if they did?
Rick
Rick the cowls are good with me......Yes I did find 6019...very nice...If MTH does not make one maybe you could get someone to change out the number board and repaint cab numbers on an exixsting unit after the PS3 hits the market.
Stefan there are still a lot of units I would like to pick up for the layout for sure. I really did enjoy looking at your GREAT collection
Stefan there are still a lot of units I would like to pick up for the layout for sure. I really did enjoy looking at your GREAT collection
Bill,
Are there any CN models, that were offered in O, that didn't make the cut for you... if yes, what were they?
Rick
Are there any CN models, that were offered in O, that didn't make the cut for you... if yes, what were they?
Rick
quote:Originally posted by Popsrr:
Stefan the link worked well. You do have a GREAT COLLECTION of CN Power. Thanks for sharing. ANY more to share would be welcomed. Thank you.
Popsrr,
you have a pretty nice collection of CN power yourself. Do you have any Canadian Pacific stuff?
Rick I did not buy the "C" Liner in the green scheme but do have it in the Zebra stripes. I also have not bought the modern CN turbo passenger train offered in 2010 MTH. THE MOUNTAIN Engine offered a couple of years ago in other than 6060 side number I did not buy. I dont buy any Rail King only MTH PREMIER. I ALSO ONLY BUY POWER UNITS in the modern era units. Also no GG'S either . That is what comes to mind lol
Superpower Thank you. No I don't have any CP Rail motive power.
I did buy a CP Rail SD90 MAC but had it painted into the CN Zebra scheme.
I did buy a CP Rail SD90 MAC but had it painted into the CN Zebra scheme.
Bill,
I haven't heard anything about MTH's turbo for a while... I wonder if it's still going ahead.
I'm into that other Canadian railroad, the Canadian Pacific, too. -
(1) RailKing CP GP9(burgundy and grey livery)
(1) Premier CP F7 ABA set(burgundy and grey livery)
(1) RailKing CP FM H-24-66
(2) Premier CP AC4400CW's(two flags and golden beaver liveries)
(1) Premier CP SD9043MAC(goldenbeaver livery)
(1) Premier CP ES44AC(modern/current livery)
CP had some nice older models... such as the cowl bodied SD40-2F, nicknamed the Red Barn. I'd like to have an O gauge model of this well known prototype... even a regular SD40-2.
Rick
I haven't heard anything about MTH's turbo for a while... I wonder if it's still going ahead.
I'm into that other Canadian railroad, the Canadian Pacific, too. -
(1) RailKing CP GP9(burgundy and grey livery)
(1) Premier CP F7 ABA set(burgundy and grey livery)
(1) RailKing CP FM H-24-66
(2) Premier CP AC4400CW's(two flags and golden beaver liveries)
(1) Premier CP SD9043MAC(goldenbeaver livery)
(1) Premier CP ES44AC(modern/current livery)
CP had some nice older models... such as the cowl bodied SD40-2F, nicknamed the Red Barn. I'd like to have an O gauge model of this well known prototype... even a regular SD40-2.
Rick
The Lionel MPC Alcos were the O-27 type, but had the nicer Alco trucks. Should have made a SUPER CONT'AL passenger set with it!
CN also had the SD50F!
....and of corse EMD SD60F which are still in service today!!!
... here a few shots of my CNR rolling stock. Modified MTH TOFC car, MTH high cube box car wit EOT, modified Weaver streamliner and a few others.
CNR Rolling Stock
Hope you enjoy it.
Regards, Stefan
CNR Rolling Stock
Hope you enjoy it.
Regards, Stefan
Very nicely done, Stefan. I especially like the weathering on the cylindrical tank car.
Rick Nice list of CP Rail motive power. I have a couple of them in CN
OK gues, according to Hot Water, the EMD Special Colling Package was to help the engine cool down faster BETWEEN tunnels, not IN them.
And did CN get some tunnel motors with the modified colling package second hand, and upgraded them to SD40-3's?
And did CN get some tunnel motors with the modified colling package second hand, and upgraded them to SD40-3's?
quote:Originally posted by jay jay:
Very nicely done, Stefan. I especially like the weathering on the cylindrical tank car.
John, thanks for your comments. A friend weathered the cylindrical hopper for me. I did some weathering my self too of which I will post pictures soon. BTW, I live here in Switzerland right at the original Lake of Zurich from where your town in Illinois got its name! Thanks again for your comment!
Stefan
Thanks, Bill... re: my CP roster.
Dominic,
I am trying to find an answer to your question, re: a special cooling package... possibly found in CN's SD40T-3's... so far, no luck.
BTW, Southern Pacific, and it's subsidiaries(SSW and The Cotton Belt) were the original owners... between them, they purchased 249 units(those were the only SD45T-2's ever built). The Duluth, Missabe & Iron Range acquired some of those original units; and, CN in turn, purchased some ex DMIR units. The original units were modified at least once... when they were converted from the original 3,600hp 20 cylinder prime-movers(20-645E3's)... to the, more fuel efficient; and reliable(as proven by EMD's top selling SD40-2)16 cylinder 3000hp prime-mover. I'm not sure but, it was probably a version... of EMD's popular 16-645E3 prime-mover.
Rick
Dominic,
I am trying to find an answer to your question, re: a special cooling package... possibly found in CN's SD40T-3's... so far, no luck.
BTW, Southern Pacific, and it's subsidiaries(SSW and The Cotton Belt) were the original owners... between them, they purchased 249 units(those were the only SD45T-2's ever built). The Duluth, Missabe & Iron Range acquired some of those original units; and, CN in turn, purchased some ex DMIR units. The original units were modified at least once... when they were converted from the original 3,600hp 20 cylinder prime-movers(20-645E3's)... to the, more fuel efficient; and reliable(as proven by EMD's top selling SD40-2)16 cylinder 3000hp prime-mover. I'm not sure but, it was probably a version... of EMD's popular 16-645E3 prime-mover.
Rick
Pops,
Regarding your layout: Will there be any Canadian National specific operations or scenery depicting Canadian landscapes? There are some awesome snow capped mountain opportunities here, with beautiful CN motive power running through.
Regarding your layout: Will there be any Canadian National specific operations or scenery depicting Canadian landscapes? There are some awesome snow capped mountain opportunities here, with beautiful CN motive power running through.
Stefan Very nice CNR Rolling stock. Thanks for the link
If somebody is compiling a CN wish list I wouldn’t mind seeing this produced
The GMD-1 was unique to Canada and were manufactured with A-1-A or B-B trucks.
The GMD-1 was unique to Canada and were manufactured with A-1-A or B-B trucks.
Mike I am not sure yet. A lot of thinking about the Oil Refinary, Passenger terminal, Transfer yard, TT and 9 Stall RH, Transfer table and CN Diesel Shop for 30 Diesels, CN ABBA Shop for 6 lanes, ATSF ABBA Shop with 6 lanes, an intermodal yard, a coal mine and coal storage car yard, Tank car storage yaed.
The elevation change is about 17 inches so some chance to do some seany development. My son in law has a lot more creative thoughts than I do so he probably will do most of the Mountain type items. We liked your Atlas Truss Bridges so we have 5 double 40" units and 11 singel track 40" units.
I can see a lot of retain walls to add some niviewing and we have a transition area between the 2 main layout areas that should offer some chance to do the mountain work.
The pictures that the other guys have posted here or links to the CN and CP track show some awesome natural beauty in landscap and water and etc. Lots to digest.
The elevation change is about 17 inches so some chance to do some seany development. My son in law has a lot more creative thoughts than I do so he probably will do most of the Mountain type items. We liked your Atlas Truss Bridges so we have 5 double 40" units and 11 singel track 40" units.
I can see a lot of retain walls to add some niviewing and we have a transition area between the 2 main layout areas that should offer some chance to do the mountain work.
The pictures that the other guys have posted here or links to the CN and CP track show some awesome natural beauty in landscap and water and etc. Lots to digest.
Dominic,
I couldn't find any information re: a special, add on, cooling system for CN's SD40T-3's.
I've been giving this issue some thought, though; and this is what I have come up with -
The original locomotive, the SD45T-2, was specifically designed for super- heated environments... specifically tunnels in the mountain regions. EMD located the clean/cold air intake, on the long hood, lower than the conventional placement... it's situated at the rear of the locomotive, just above the long hood walkway.
The idea was to capture the clean/cool air found at the walkway level... as opposed to the super-heated air, generated by the hard working diesel locomotives, found at the upper levels of the tunnel.
Besides having the cool air intake vents being mounted low... the radiator cooling fans were located under the radiator cores, instead of on top... the standard position.
So the SD45T-2 was a locomotive specifically designed for the the super-heated environment of tunnels, especially long tunnels.
When CN purchased their ex DMIR units... the units were either already configured into SD40T-3's or CN had the conversion done.
Facts to consider -
The SD40T-3 is a DC locomotive... that means it has DC traction motors. As far as I know... CN usually runs DC equipment. The main reason being that, CN's tracks are located on terrain with minimal grades; and because of that fact, the AC traction motor equipped locomotives are not needed... AC units have significant traction advantages, when starting out with heavy loads, especially on grades.
Another point to consider is that, AC traction locomotives cost more than their DC counterparts. A brand new GE diesel-electric Evolution locomotive(an ES44AC) cost around 2.5 million dollars, as opposed GE's DC unit(the ES44DC),that costs around 2 million dollars.
I can't see CN going to the added expense of putting a special cooling system
into an second hand locomotive(the SD40T-3). They don't do this with the rest of their DC traction units... at least, not that I am aware of.
The Canadian Pacific Railway has the routes, in Canada, that have/had significant grades(some grades have been reduced/improved over time); and long tunnels etc... For this reason CP finds it worthwhile to invest in an AC traction fleet, i.e. AC4400CW's, and the newer ES44AC's.
CN, on the other hand, purchases DC power... i.e. GE Dash 8's, 9's, ES44DC's; and EMD's SD70 series DC models... i.e. SD70M's, SD70I's,SD75I's;and SD70M-2's... to name a few.
BTW, CN and CP share tracks, at times, but for the most part... CN's routes are considered to be less extreme.
I can see CN's SD40T-3's having the cooling attributes of the original SD45T-2, but that's about it.
If anybody has any information, otherwise, please contribute to the topic... I'm interested in the facts.
Rick
I couldn't find any information re: a special, add on, cooling system for CN's SD40T-3's.
I've been giving this issue some thought, though; and this is what I have come up with -
The original locomotive, the SD45T-2, was specifically designed for super- heated environments... specifically tunnels in the mountain regions. EMD located the clean/cold air intake, on the long hood, lower than the conventional placement... it's situated at the rear of the locomotive, just above the long hood walkway.
The idea was to capture the clean/cool air found at the walkway level... as opposed to the super-heated air, generated by the hard working diesel locomotives, found at the upper levels of the tunnel.
Besides having the cool air intake vents being mounted low... the radiator cooling fans were located under the radiator cores, instead of on top... the standard position.
So the SD45T-2 was a locomotive specifically designed for the the super-heated environment of tunnels, especially long tunnels.
When CN purchased their ex DMIR units... the units were either already configured into SD40T-3's or CN had the conversion done.
Facts to consider -
The SD40T-3 is a DC locomotive... that means it has DC traction motors. As far as I know... CN usually runs DC equipment. The main reason being that, CN's tracks are located on terrain with minimal grades; and because of that fact, the AC traction motor equipped locomotives are not needed... AC units have significant traction advantages, when starting out with heavy loads, especially on grades.
Another point to consider is that, AC traction locomotives cost more than their DC counterparts. A brand new GE diesel-electric Evolution locomotive(an ES44AC) cost around 2.5 million dollars, as opposed GE's DC unit(the ES44DC),that costs around 2 million dollars.
I can't see CN going to the added expense of putting a special cooling system
into an second hand locomotive(the SD40T-3). They don't do this with the rest of their DC traction units... at least, not that I am aware of.
The Canadian Pacific Railway has the routes, in Canada, that have/had significant grades(some grades have been reduced/improved over time); and long tunnels etc... For this reason CP finds it worthwhile to invest in an AC traction fleet, i.e. AC4400CW's, and the newer ES44AC's.
CN, on the other hand, purchases DC power... i.e. GE Dash 8's, 9's, ES44DC's; and EMD's SD70 series DC models... i.e. SD70M's, SD70I's,SD75I's;and SD70M-2's... to name a few.
BTW, CN and CP share tracks, at times, but for the most part... CN's routes are considered to be less extreme.
I can see CN's SD40T-3's having the cooling attributes of the original SD45T-2, but that's about it.
If anybody has any information, otherwise, please contribute to the topic... I'm interested in the facts.
Rick
quote:Originally posted by VOX:
Dominic,
I couldn't find any information re: a special, add on, cooling system for CN's SD40T-3's.
I've been giving this issue some thought, though; and this is what I have come up with -
The original locomotive, the SD45T-2, was specifically designed for super- heated environments... specifically tunnels in the mountain regions. EMD located the clean/cold air intake, on the long hood, lower than the conventional placement... it's situated at the rear of the locomotive, just above the long hood walkway.
The idea was to capture the clean/cool air found at the walkway level... as opposed to the super-heated air, generated by the hard working diesel locomotives, found at the upper levels of the tunnel.
Besides having the cool air intake vents being mounted low... the radiator cooling fans were located under the radiator cores, instead of on top... the standard position.
So the SD45T-2 was a locomotive specifically designed for the the super-heated environment of tunnels, especially long tunnels.
When CN purchased their ex DMIR units... the units were either already configured into SD40T-3's or CN had the conversion done.
Facts to consider -
The SD40T-3 is a DC locomotive... that means it has DC traction motors. As far as I know... CN usually runs DC equipment. The main reason being that, CN's tracks are located on terrain with minimal grades; and because of that fact, the AC traction motor equipped locomotives are not needed... AC units have significant traction advantages, when starting out with heavy loads, especially on grades.
Another point to consider is that, AC traction locomotives cost more than their DC counterparts. A brand new GE diesel-electric Evolution locomotive(an ES44AC) cost around 2.5 million dollars, as opposed GE's DC unit(the ES44DC),that costs around 2 million dollars.
I can't see CN going to the added expense of putting a special cooling system
into an second hand locomotive(the SD40T-3). They don't do this with the rest of their DC traction units... at least, not that I am aware of.
The Canadian Pacific Railway has the routes, in Canada, that have/had significant grades(some grades have been reduced/improved over time); and long tunnels etc... For this reason CP finds it worthwhile to invest in an AC traction fleet, i.e. AC4400CW's, and the newer ES44AC's.
CN, on the other hand, purchases DC power... i.e. GE Dash 8's, 9's, ES44DC's; and EMD's SD70 series DC models... i.e. SD70M's, SD70I's,SD75I's;and SD70M-2's... to name a few.
BTW, CN and CP share tracks, at times, but for the most part... CN's routes are considered to be less extreme.
I can see CN's SD40T-3's having the cooling attributes of the original SD45T-2, but that's about it.
If anybody has any information, otherwise, please contribute to the topic... I'm interested in the facts.
Rick
Rick
The air intakes along the walkway can be seen at the end of the hood on this model.
This is a really great thread!! Bill...you have a lot to put in your space..all of those bridges are going to look incredible! I am now on the lookout for some CN power...WOW, these units are beautiful!!
Thanks,
Alan
Thanks,
Alan
Bill,
You're welcome... I'm enjoying this particular thread.
Rick
You're welcome... I'm enjoying this particular thread.
Rick
Richard E. Thanks for posting those cool pictures.
quote:Originally posted by leavingtracks:
This is a really great thread!! Bill...you have a lot to put in your space..all of those bridges are going to look incredible! I am now on the lookout for some CN power...WOW, these units are beautiful!!
Thanks,
Alan
Alan well thanks however BNSF MIKE Got us started with his great pictures of the real CN Intermodal consis running over in the Chicagoland area. Hope Mike doest't mind us adding to his original post
I have enjoyed the guys adding their knowledge and pictures to the thread.
Alan you have such a GREAT layout that some CN Power would look awesome in your layout.
Hope you find something that you like.
Not to forget one of MPC/Lionel's first geeps.
This is the early model with the hollow roller pick ups and the "log car" stakes.
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Other than a very cheap alco, did PW Lionel have any CN engines ?
This is the early model with the hollow roller pick ups and the "log car" stakes.
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Other than a very cheap alco, did PW Lionel have any CN engines ?
Lets try that again.
Hi everyone,
here are just a few shots of my weatered locos. Both locos required a lot of work taking them apart, weather them and put them back together. I did the weathering by studying pictures from the locomotive type I want to weather. I don't know what you guys think, but I like the models.
Regards, Stefan
here are just a few shots of my weatered locos. Both locos required a lot of work taking them apart, weather them and put them back together. I did the weathering by studying pictures from the locomotive type I want to weather. I don't know what you guys think, but I like the models.
Regards, Stefan
Stefan another GREAT set of pictures. Thank you for sharing with us.
