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Good catalog so far! Really excited about the new PE observation cars!
Interesting, but the only thing I'm interested in is the Lionel Lines small streamliners.
If Lionel had cataloged true (not baby) Madison cars in the Polar Express scheme I'd pre order now. I'm not interested in Polar Express locomotives.
Lionel continues its tradition of getting Chicago and North Western wrong. They're selling the C&NW version of the Milwaukee Road class A in black, not yellow and green.
Some nice stuff but thankfully nothing i'm interested in. Just got a $7k bill for my truck's transmission.
I got a chuckle out of the Bob Ross water tower tho!
Woohoo more Wings of Angels cars! Can't go wrong with those ladies
I like the Winchester & Western PS-2 hopper. The CSX Heritage locomotives are also nice. That's about it for me. As a whole, there's alot of things I think people would like.
@Official Lionel Trains can Ryan and Dave talk about the PE car colors... the new observation looks a little different in the catalog.
I find it interesting and perhaps encouraging that despite the talk of doom and gloom about the three rail hobby, Lionel still thinks it will be profitable to put out a huge catalog. Seems likely it's a sign they plan to sell a lot of stuff. 
Hope that turns out to be correct.
Those Rock Island commuter cars are exactly what I've been looking for to go with the H15-44 as that is what they pulled. Holy cow on passenger car prices tho...... hard to swallow spending more than 500 on a 4 pack!
#1225 Berkshire looks good.
Maybe a GP9
Prices on the everything. Yikes!
@cbq9911a posted:Interesting, but the only thing I'm interested in is the Lionel Lines small streamliners.
If Lionel had cataloged true (not baby) Madison cars in the Polar Express scheme I'd pre order now. I'm not interested in Polar Express locomotives.
Isn't that exactly what is shown on page 141?
Just went through the catalog, there are several interesting items to consider, both scale and traditional. Lots of interesting Polar Express stuff, probably get the Twentieth Anniversary traditional set, and maybe one of the LionChief 2.0 engines (am aware of the previous version motor gear issues which will be taken into consideration), leaning toward the 20 Anniversary version, but like the other one too.
One scale engine that I definitely won't be buying is the NKP 765 Berkshire. I have seen the prototype several times, have lots of pictures of it and personally have never seen it with dual headlights. Might have had them at one time but looks very wrong to me.
I'm hoping someone does a custom run of C&O 2716, I'm surprised Lionel went with 2765 instead as the cataloged version.
I'm also considering either a 10 wheeler or one of the CSX heritage units, likely Chessie or B&O. I'm almost definitely picking up an A&P reefer or two, and would consider an 8k tank if there was a custom run in Texaco scheme.
I am a little concerned that there are 39 pages of still available in O-Gauge alone. I hope for Lionel's sake that there are limited amounts of these still availables.
Scott Smith
I might get a Bob Ross boxcar.
THEY'VE RETOOLED THE #675!!!!! NO FREAKIN' WAY!
Jon 
Great catalog! I'm excited to see the early 1940s Illinois Central City of Miami set. No complaints, but here are some suggestions to get this one right from an interested customer: 1. the locomotive almost certainly had black trucks as evidenced by the similarity of the truck and fuel tank gray tones in black and white pictures as well as the fact that one of the few color pictures I have seen supports this assertion, although it is admittedly hard to tell due to a shadow (source: picture on cover of January 1975 Trains magazine); 2. the dining car was part of a seven-car set specifically built for this train by Pullman-Standard and had four wheel trucks (source: picture from Illinois Central Streamliners 1936-1946 by Paul M. Somers, page 65); 3. the observation car lacked mid-car windows due to the presence of the bar (source: pictures from Illinois Central Streamliners 1936-1946 by Paul M. Somers, pages 67-68); 4. please, no high-water trucks as depicted in the catalog drawings.
@cbq9911a posted:Lionel continues its tradition of getting Chicago and North Western wrong. They're selling the C&NW version of the Milwaukee Road class A in black, not yellow and green.
That appears to be paint scheme CNW used on their streamlined E-4 Hudsons. Given that the passenger cars are the traditional green and yellow, would have made more sense to apply the color scheme of the streamlined E-2 Pacifics.
The Texas Special FT dummy looks good to me, to complete the set. Already committed to the Base3, that takes care of this years budget.
@scott.smith posted:I am a little concerned that there are 39 pages of still available in O-Gauge alone. I hope for Lionel's sake that there are limited amounts of these still availables.
Scott Smith
I agree with you!!!
I already have the Base3 on order, and it should be here sometime in the spring or summer. Pretty excited about that.
I will most likely order one of the new BNSF ES44ACs (was still hoping for scale Tier 4 version, though). The UP new livery version is cool, too. I may get a UP ES44AC later on. I didn't find any new rolling stock I wanted except the modern 50' tank cars. Most likely, I'll order the BNSF 3-pack and addon car. I may get a few more cars for a longer oil train. At the end of the catalog, there are a bunch of other rolling stock that were previously released. I may get some of the BNSF Steel Coil Cars, Coal Gondolas, and Husky Stacks for modern freight trains on my layout.
Other stuff that I found interesting, but probably won't be getting:
-ATSF and/or SP SD45s (I would have preferred an ATSF Blue/Yellow Warbonnet version)
-UP and/or SP U28Cs (no ATSF U28CGs?!)
-Superbass GP9Bs (cool that Lionel is making those)
-Scale Polar Express (too expensive, but awesome)
-AEC Set that glows in the dark! So cool! A great throwback to the 2001 set! Additional cars needed.
@GregM posted:One scale engine that I definitely won't be buying is the NKP 765 Berkshire. I have seen the prototype several times, have lots of pictures of it and personally have never seen it with dual headlights. Might have had them at one time but looks very wrong to me.
NKP 765 has been wearing a Mars light above the headlight for quite a few years now...just Google some pictures
@GregM posted:One scale engine that I definitely won't be buying is the NKP 765 Berkshire. I have seen the prototype several times, have lots of pictures of it and personally have never seen it with dual headlights. Might have had them at one time but looks very wrong to me.
765 has the "dual headlight" currently actually. The upper "headlight" is actually a mars light. That appearance is prototypical to the way 765 looked in the days of
@Catonsville Central Railway posted:NKP 765 has been wearing a Mars light above the headlight for quite a few years now...just Google some pictures
@Brian DeFazio posted:765 has the "dual headlight" currently actually. The upper "headlight" is actually a mars light. That appearance is prototypical to the way 765 looked in the days of steam.
Okay, it has the Mars light now and had it in the past. I have been looking at a framed enlargement of a photo of NKP 765 taken by my wife when the engine was in Canton, Ohio for a long time now. It didn't have the mars light then and that is the way I am used to seeing it. Doubt I would enjoy a model with the mars light. YMMV
@scott.smith posted:I am a little concerned that there are 39 pages of still available in O-Gauge alone. I hope for Lionel's sake that there are limited amounts of these still availables.
Scott Smith
Any idea what "still available" means? Do you think this means there are dealers (online, brick-and-mortar) with these items in stock or does this mean Lionel has its own stock of these that it hasn't released (sold) to dealers yet?
que the negativity... @Official Lionel Trains - great work! lots of good stuff in here!
Seems like a barbell catalog that's heavy in the in the expensive Legacy/scale end and also heavy in the fantasy/themed end. I get it, those have become the two major markets. Very little motive power with LC+2.0 to interest me. While I like the red and white Pacemaker theme brought to the lower LC end, I was hoping for that scheme on an LC+2.0 NYC Hudson.
With the exception of possibly an SW8, nothing I have to have, thank goodness. Too much to owe to Scott Mann for his products.
Hello everyone, Sloan from Atlanta and this is my first time posting on OGR,
Quick intro, grew up building a 15 x 30 O-scale layout in our backyard workshop with my Dad when I was 8-11. Hurricane Andrew would level said workshop and layout. Fast forward nearly 30 years to 2021 and I would see the UP 4014 in person and immediately fell in love with trains again (I'm also an avid roller coaster enthusiast, you'd be surprised how many of us are also train enthusiasts as well). Soon after I'd order an MTH G-scale 4014 for my office of which little did I know that it was the last run for MTH/Mike Wolf (and good gosh I look at that pre-order price I paid vs what I'm having to pay now for some of these engines/locos today...). Bought a few more g-scale diesels and scored a Mikado. And then I rediscovered O-scale/Lionel...just wow. Completely in love again with all things die cast and lionel for me is top of the game.
Which brings me to the 2024 catalogue, looking at the Polar Express in Blue plus the newly tooled passenger cars, Triplex superset, Berkshire nickel plate limited 777, and C&O 1572. And I'll have to stop there before the wife kills me 
Glad to be a part of the forum,
Sloan
Thank you Lionel for another varied and extensive catalog. I must admit I'm a bit priced out of the large number of high-end items.
May I suggest for future catalogs you have some Christmas items with LED LIGHTS. The few Christmas cars I have with those lights (both pass & freight) look great under the tree and are real crowd pleasers.
Paul
I really appreciate that (for the second catalog in a row!) Lionel has dropped in another Friendship Train boxcar (with Freightsounds no less!). Definitely in for one.
I’m a sucker for scale PolEx freight, so I’m in for the two scale anniversary boxcars.
I love the retooled scale (black roof) observation car. I’m in, BUT please (pretty please, if need be) let the blues and reds match the original release.
I love the NKP#779 and have great pics of my son standing in front of it in the park in Lima from when he was young. So, the freight set is tugging at me. I’d be 100% in if I knew for sure the smoke and fire boxes wouldn’t be Ghost Dreyfuss gray like the last Berkshire offerings in 2017.
Not my road, but the Hiawatha is a cool looking train and it’s great to see aluminum passenger cars again.
Nice catalog, for sure.
@scott.smith posted:I am a little concerned that there are 39 pages of still available in O-Gauge alone. I hope for Lionel's sake that there are limited amounts of these still availables.
Scott Smith
I also felt this was one of the most curious things about new catalog. Never done before; it would be interesting to know the rationale for doing this now.
@cbq9911a posted:Lionel continues its tradition of getting Chicago and North Western wrong. They're selling the C&NW version of the Milwaukee Road class A in black, not yellow and green.
If this was something you were interested in, I am sure Ryan or Dave will be able to clear it up on one of their live shows or on the Matt & Matt O scale podcast.
Nothing for me to buy. I'm disappointed but it's just as well for my wallet. I will be shopping at Trainz and MTH online...
MELGAR
Well I thought I was save until I saw the AEC scale GP9 Legacy set!! I have the original glow in the dark GP9 but I’m very tempted with this one. Even comes with a freight sounds boxcar that has Geiger counter sounds. Awesome. Well after writing this I guess I talked myself into it.
Time to get a polar express!
Plus cars.
@KOOLjock1 posted:THEY'VE RETOOLED THE #675!!!!! NO FREAKIN' WAY!
Jon
I know, right!?!? Except for occasional splurges, I'm generally a bottom feeder in the used market, but I've always thought that was a great looking little postwar engine. Might buy one new just because.
That was a nice surprise to find mid catalogue!
Good catalog. I'm not into heritage units, but they are popular. Finally can get a Reading SD45.
I like the still available. It's a good marketing idea
Out of curiosity, what is up with the aluminum passenger cars? I had thought that there was issues with a prior run in the mid 20Teens that there was a delay because of working on extruding the aluminum? Have Ryan and Dave gone over the catalog yet?
