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I’ve been working on our Christmas display for a LionChief Polar Express. The main feature is double spiral which elevates 15 ½” over a 8’ x 4 1/2’ baseline using O36 & O48 fastrack. Without cruise control on the Polar Express I needed a way to automatically control the descent on the spiral. Dale H. not only supplied the solution with a relay circuit, he also through his many posts and personal attention has given me a valuable education.

This is my first project involving a relay circuit and the experience is priceless. I’ve learned about relays, diodes, capacitors and bridge rectifiers. I understand how they work and what they can do.

Below is our future Christmas display under construction with a voltage drop down circuit utilizing three channels of a postwar zw transformer. (Nothin prettier under a Christmas Tree than a properly refurbished and protected pw zw with it’s constant glowing green light.) Dale provided the circuit and some very good diagrams making it possible for me to install, secure the track and operate in about an hour.

 

18v on the climb, 15v on the descent and about 1/3 constant throttle setting on the remote.  Yes it appears it’s going too fast down the hill and that is prototypical; after all “This Is The Polar Express”

 

 

Being a small display operator I’ve often looked at command control layouts with envy and wondered how I could justify a system for what I do. With the new knowledge I’ve acquired, that’s no longer going to be on my mind. It’s very rewarding to step away from plug and play to build from scratch, with the understanding of how and why all the components interact. I’m no expert by any means but through this project and Dales guidance my interest and confidence has peaked to make me want to continue to learn more.

 

Gun Runner John was the first person I noticed who referred to Dale as “The Relay King” I can tell you the moniker fits. I’m very appreciative all their help as well as all the others who’ve worked with me on this project.

 

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I went with command control because I like it and also like the electronic side of things. However, conventional control with relays, diodes and capacitors can be just as challenging and exciting, maybe even more so with some things. If I ever get everything up and running like I want in command mode, I would like to try a few things in conventional with the relays and stuff, I find that very interesting also. Dale H certainly does know his relays, I have followed his blog and posts also and learned a lot about train control using his methods. I also find some of the old conventional blocked layouts with all the relays, blocks and the things they did with those fascinating also. Some pretty intelligent folks are in this hobby.

 

I've also learned a lot from gunrunnerjohn, stan2004 and others here that are doing the electronics stuff. All have been a great help to me. Some of the debates Dale H and gunrunnerjohn have about relays vs. electronics are a wealth of information also, I really enjoy those and learn something each time. Glad you are up and going and learning and enjoying things as well. The more you learn the more you want to learn and the more fun it gets. We have so much to chose from these days in all aspects of the hobby, it's a great time to be in O gauge!  

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