Hi everyone. I'd like to showcase a method of building a dual shelf layout that me a few buddies built over a 3-day weekend. The layout has a lower and upper track so that the viewer can see the back track easier since its elevated higher than the inner track. The layout was built in segments that pieced together like a puzzle. It was kind of like building, staining, and hanging a bunch of kitchen cabinets all around a room. It was a lot of work, and having four people (one of them a master carpenter) was key do getting it built so quickly. I used traditional Lionel O-gauge track (upper diameter curves are 42", lower track uses 31"). I also used Woodland Scenics foam track bed for sound deadening.
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Nice work.
Dewey: the pictures of the setup you dismantled a few years back were one of the inspirations for this build! Thanks for posting
Looks like you and your friends have some pretty good woodworking skills!
Tom
Great stuff! That first pic of the corner section is really something...if you can build that, the rest will follow in short order. Agree that you guys did outstanding woodwork on the layout.
I stained, sealed, and sanded three times with each board for mine. The idea was for it to look like furniture from below. Yours looks similar.
I hung mine with brackets and covered those with a 7 1/2 inch backdrop. It looks like you guys just nailed the backing board to the wall. Since I didn't have one, I remember finding the studs in the 20 foot wall section was a pain. The beam boxes were a lot easier.
Thanks for posting this of your really cool layout build.
Jerry
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Very well done. Your craftsmanship puts mine to shame. I used simple shelf brackets and 2X10' boards. Only problem is that Pittsburgh Steeler poster really takes away from the beautiful work .
Nicely done. Clean with no brakes. And two trains can run and be seen.
Great looking shelves, obviously some skills at work there.
That is some awesome work, there.
Your shelves look great!! They put mine to shame.
Raising4daughters made a type. The Steelers poster and Terrible Towel compliment the fine carpentry and magnificent trains! Not to mention the Let's Go Pens poster.
Kidding aside, those are some of the finest shelves I have seen!!!!
Hi Fish Man 86
Congrats: Very well done.
Gary
Very good design.
Elevating the rear track in this first class project not only eliminates some adult neck craning it enables a line-o- sight for the little folks that may take up our hobby some day. Outstanding fit and finish on your roadbed.
Fishman, awesome layout. Love the double decker design. I know this is an old topic, but I was hoping you might elaborate on the specifics of the different sizes of lumber you decided to use. Is there anything you would change now that you have had it up and running for a while? I am thinking of doing something very similar in my son’s bedroom. Thanks in advance for the information.
Hello CSXRAILFAN, glad you like the elevated layout me and some buddy's built over a weekend (although I must admit, it really helped that one was a master carpenter...me and the other 2 just did as we were told, haha). Its still up and working great after about 4 years already. Lumber is pine 1 x 10's for the vertical backing that is attached to the wall. The bottom bed is also 1 x 10's, which is butted to the back board. Upper bed is 1 x 4's, also butted to the back board and supported by 4" x 4" squares made of 1 x 4 lumber attached to the bottom bed, vertical back board, and upper bed. The whole thing was built as several modular pre-assembled 8, 6, or 4' spans that were then secured to the wall like an interlocking puzzle (back board and bottom bed boards were alternately offset by an inch to interlock to provide sturdiness). It's really a very sturdy 2-level shelf. The corners were made from 2' x 4' x 1" pine panels (not plywood) with the curves cut to match the radius of the O-gauge track. The top track (outer) has a larger radius track than the lower track (inner).
The one thing I would change if I did it again would be to increase the clearance between the ceiling and the upper bed. When we first came up with the dimensions, the tallest engine I owned was a Lionel Post-war F-3 Diesel Superchief. I figured that would be the tallest engine I'd ever own, but as this hobby grew (remarkable how fast an engine collection grows after you have a permanent layout built), I managed to obtain taller engines that do not fit on the upper track (they scrape the ceiling). It also makes it tricky to add smoke fluid to engines on the upper track, but still can be done. I would have perhaps used only 3.5" tall supports under the upper bed, as opposed to 4" tall supports. This would have given me an extra 1/2" of clearance, but would still be elevated enough to see the upper train behind the lower train. I never planned on it, but this hobby has a way of doing this: I eventually got myself an a few LionChief radio controlled engines, then an MTH DCS control system, which enabled me to run multiple trains on both tracks. I usually run two trains on each track: 2 passenger trains on the upper track, and two freight trains on the lower track. I must admit, one night I had 3 trains on each track (6 trains total)...that was fun, but VERY stressful as the LionChiefs don't have quite the speed control as the MTH DCS controlled engines...it was ALOT of remote control juggling, but super fun! Enjoy!
Well done!
Peter
A great creation and installation! IMHO, the best feature of the design is its wall mounting without using shelf brackets or installing threaded support rods from the ceiling to the shelf. The shelves appear to be "floating" - as a Levitation Layout.
Carry on ...
Mike Mottler LCCA 12394
That is beautiful Fishman. One of the nicest ones I've ever seen.
Here's a link to a YouTube video I created a while back shortly after the installation was all wired up. I was still only running my old post-war Lionel stuff back then: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOZ5mgKeS_c
Fishman, I noticed that you have what appear to be LED lights on there. Are they giving you any kind of signal problems with the TMCC or the DCs?
Tim, that's a real neat looking shelf. Clean and tidy. I like that one also. I also like the way you got the room setup looks really nice
E-UNIT-79, I have LED rope lights laid behind each track bed. They plug directly into the wall. I think I got them from Lowes. I've never seen them react to any DCS signals, they've always stayed lit up at a constant brightness as long as they are on.
Ok. But what I ment was the other way around. were they causing any signal problems to tmcc/legacy or dcs. I remember reading a post a while back about someone's led ceiling lights causing a disturbance in the signal of either tmcc or dcs. Obviously it's not happening or you would have mentioned it. This is good to hear. I think that it looks amazing Fishman.
Fishman, thanks for taking the time to reply to my questions. I joined the site just so I could reach out and inquire about the details. Those details were exactly what I was looking for. I know this was an older thread but, it is still very popular now that I have awaken it again. Awesome layout. Again, appreciate you taking the time to respond. Hope I am able to construct something similar.