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Has this one been posted yet ? What is it ?
"The Rocket of China" ...
In 1881 the ten kilometer Kaiping Tramway was built from Tangshan to Xugezhuang in China, connecting coal mines at Tangshan with Xugezhuang, where a canal connected it to the river network. It was built to the standard gauge of 4 ft 8.5in. The original plan was to use mules to haul wagons, but the loads proved to be too heavy. This one-cylinder engine was secretly (because of Chinese politics) improvised by the English engineer Claude W Kinder, who had organized the track-laying. It was called "The Rocket of China".
It allegedly combined the boiler of a steam crane with a frame of old iron and discarded wheels, though no sign of its crane heritage can be seen. It looks much more like a converted traction engine. It made its first test run on 9th June 1881. Presumably the problems of starting on a dead center (and it looks like it's on one now) were solved by hauling on the flywheel. Later it was rebuilt into a working three axle tank locomotive.
It is believed to be the first steam locomotive constructed in China.¹
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¹from the ultimate source of Unusual Locomotives...
"The Rocket of China" ...
In 1881 the ten kilometer Kaiping Tramway was built from Tangshan to Xugezhuang in China, connecting coal mines at Tangshan with Xugezhuang, where a canal connected it to the river network. It was built to the standard gauge of 4 ft 8.5in. The original plan was to use mules to haul wagons, but the loads proved to be too heavy. This one-cylinder engine was secretly (because of Chinese politics) improvised by the English engineer Claude W Kinder, who had organized the track-laying. It was called "The Rocket of China".
It allegedly combined the boiler of a steam crane with a frame of old iron and discarded wheels, though no sign of its crane heritage can be seen. It looks much more like a converted traction engine. It made its first test run on 9th June 1881. Presumably the problems of starting on a dead center (and it looks like it's on one now) were solved by hauling on the flywheel. Later it was rebuilt into a working three axle tank locomotive.
It is believed to be the first steam locomotive constructed in China.¹
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¹from the ultimate source of Unusual Locomotives...
There were lots of 4 truck passenger cars. Lincoln's car was just one of many. The theory was that it would make for a smoother ride - it didn't.
Also cute, if not an oddball...I photographed this near Tarentum, PA.
"The Rocket of China" ...
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It is believed to be the first steam locomotive constructed in China.¹
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¹from the ultimate source of Unusual Locomotives...
if you follow that LOCOLOCO link i posted, under The Nielson One-Cylinder Loco you'll find the rest of the story on this locomotive, though as you will see, it's fate seems unsure.
Has this one been posted yet ? What is it ?
No. Looked for an hour or so but I couldn't find another. I suspect foreign RR with those old style passenger cars behind a "newer" engine. Cool loco for a bash.
This is the most entertaining thread I've seen in a long time. I'm lovin' it!
This is the most entertaining thread I've seen in a long time. I'm lovin' it!
Has this one been posted yet ? What is it ?
Has this one been posted yet ? What is it ?
I actually saw it while browsing info about Milwaukee,Wis and this picture was on the page,but it doesn't really look like a North American design
Here's another one that I did not realize made it all the way to a CSX paint scheme,the Seaboard Safety Cab GE with Bloomberg style trucks.
yes...with only the fireman in the rear cab and most of the engineer's control hardware moved to the center cab, there was really little sense in designing a large rear cab area. less steps for the fireman to shovel fuel, too. the Wootton firebox was so large, i've seen a few with a pair of side-by-side firebox doors.
Here are some Lima Loco's...
More than one I would bet.
yes...with only the fireman in the rear cab and most of the engineer's control hardware moved to the center cab, there was really little sense in designing a large rear cab area. less steps for the fireman to shovel fuel, too. the Wootton firebox was so large, i've seen a few with a pair of side-by-side firebox doors.
I was really just pointing it out, but a double door box itself would be cool. Id never seen one before.
I think that was the last loco to come out of Lima.
Glad I bumped into this thread. Very entertaining, guys. Thanks for posting.
Glad I bumped into this thread. Very entertaining, guys. Thanks for posting.
Here are a few more...
And a few more I found...
Yes this next one is a steam engine
This is how someone thought they should convert from narrow gauge to standard...
Now this locomotive has quite a story...
C E Swinterton specifed that each driving wheel should actually be a polygon with 118 sides, each segment being about 2 inches long. The theory behind this quite daft arrangement was that the line contact at the intersection of each segment would have better rail adhesion than a circular wheel, which was supposed to have only a point contact; this is not of course actually the case as even steel deforms under enough pressure, so there is on fact a contact area even with a circular wheel.
And a few more I found...
Yes this next one is a steam engine
This one is cool
I think it could be modeled easy.
"Favorite Odd-ball Train Item"
Does that include some of the people on this forum?
Hope you all have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Larry
"Favorite Odd-ball Train Item"
Does that include some of the people on this forum?
Hope you all have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Larry
Now this locomotive has quite a story...
C E Swinterton specifed that each driving wheel should actually be a polygon with 118 sides, each segment being about 2 inches long. The theory behind this quite daft arrangement was that the line contact at the intersection of each segment would have better rail adhesion than a circular wheel, which was supposed to have only a point contact; this is not of course actually the case as even steel deforms under enough pressure, so there is on fact a contact area even with a circular wheel.
118 2" flat spots. Now that had to sound horrendous coming down the track.
Now this locomotive has quite a story...
C E Swinterton specifed that each driving wheel should actually be a polygon with 118 sides, each segment being about 2 inches long. The theory behind this quite daft arrangement was that the line contact at the intersection of each segment would have better rail adhesion than a circular wheel, which was supposed to have only a point contact; this is not of course actually the case as even steel deforms under enough pressure, so there is on fact a contact area even with a circular wheel.
118 2" flat spots. Now that had to sound horrendous coming down the track.
Not a loco but how about the first "dome" car?
Sorry never mind..it appears that I can no longer access the photo easily by hoopla. I cant figure out how to load a video here any longer either. Some pictures have just become too hard to find again with that stupid composing tool. I have made no changes to my system personally. I give up for today, and while not "premium" am again seriously considering dropping OGF as a pastime, composition is often just too frustrating on a 1.5 inch tool screen.
With all those tin roofs in the background behind that "toaster". it must have run
south of the border, if not south of Panama.
Topic re-opened per request from "ACE"....
Alan
my favorite was the design of a nuclear powered locomotive by Utah University. it looked like an elongated F-3. it could have gone around the world twice on one load of fuel. I made up a folder on it and sent it to MTH for consideration.
Bob C.
mackb4 posted:Has this one been posted yet ? What is it ?
It's one of two Milwaukee Road home-built diesels for light branch line passenger service and nicknamed "Bulldogs". Each had a EMD prime mover which powered only the front truck and was equipped with a baggage compartment.
Better picture than I found.Sorta reminds me of a " Super Doodlebug "
Very interesting, here are a couple more pics of those two Milwaukee units, built in 1948. Essentially half of an E7.
Since 2013, I've found a few oddities myself...
0-10-0 tank engine, bi directional.
Inspection Locomotive on the Reading Railroad #100
Another Inspection Locomotive, #360 from unknown railroad
Drawing of a locomotive from 1852
#19 in 1865
Here's a Baldwin Steam Donkey ( I think they call it that.)
First Locomotive in East Hollywood.
Madison I cant find my glasses is that your barbeque grill?
Ok...Oh its one of those portable fish smokers! And theres tea to drink!
The Mad Max of oddball trains Mad Madison
(just caught up on the Cuyamaca )
I don't buy it. There's something really odd here all right.
The statement "Type one diesel" didn't strike me right. Air Cooled VW's are another hobby now retired. They produced a Type 1 diesel only two protoype motors. the design didn't translate to diesel well. They made industrial motors as gasoline flat-4's too. I'm aware of Wikipedia for a double check says 1951. The VW diesel is a 70's upright straight block 1600cc, the most common air cooled boxer-4 is 1600cc too. Too many what the's, for this set of Fuchs rims. I'm pretty sure there are lots more Type-1, T-2, T-3 & Type IV air cooled's we havent seen yet. I'm talking about dozen or two. Couldn't find any info outside of this photo either.
I am willing to try to accept its a much later custom rail car. VW builders are the kit-bashers of the automotive world. Very much as "sick" as we are
Very cool though
aterry11 posted:
...And now....here's something we hope you'll really like..
Nothin up ma sleve...
Presto!
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