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This was probably discussed earlier, but I didn't see it. Just in case some missed it (like me), this was in Trains magazine:

Friends of the 261 acquiring Milwaukee Road E9

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No. 32A is westbound at Cleveland Avenue in St. Paul, Minn., with Chicago-Minneapolis train No. 55 on Sept. 25, 1966.
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MINNEAPOLIS – The nonprofit Friends of the 261 has reached an agreement with Watco Cos. and the Wisconsin & Southern Railroad to acquire former Milwaukee Road E9 No. 32A. The fully operable locomotive last saw service as part of the railroad’s business train fleet. It is one of four surviving Milwaukee Road E9s. The acquisition is a natural for the Friends, which also owns Milwaukee Road 4-8-4 No. 261 and a fleet of Milwaukee Road-painted passenger cars, including original Milwaukee Road Super Dome No. 53 and Skytop lounge observation Cedar Rapids.

The E9 was delivered to the Milwaukee Road by EMD in April 1956 as No. 202A. It was part of six sets of A-B-A E9s to be used on Union Pacific’s “Cities” streamliners the Milwaukee began operating between Chicago and Omaha in 1955. All were delivered in UP yellow colors. The numbering sequence for the third set was 202A, 202B, and 202C. In the 1959 Milwaukee Road fleet renumbering the set became 32A, 32B, and 32C. Eventually the units were used on other Milwaukee Road passenger services, such as the Olympian Hiawatha between Chicago and Seattle/Tacoma and the Morning Hiawatha and Afternoon Hiawathabetween Chicago and the Twin Cities. In 1971 the unit began service for Amtrak, officially leaving the Milwaukee Road roster in June 1974. Amtrak had the unit rebuilt at the Milwaukee Shops where it lost its side porthole windows and was renumbered 434. It remained on Amtrak’s roster until 1982.

It was then sold to the Alaska Railroad where it was renumbered 2402. It toiled in the 49th state until 1986 when it was purchased by Wisconsin’s Northern Rail Car Leasing and numbered 10C. Northern Railcar founded Scenic Rail Dining, which between 1987 and 1990 operated a high-end dinner train out of North Milwaukee, Wis., on a portion of the former Milwaukee Road to Horicon, Wis., owned by the Wisconsin & Southern Railroad. In 1988, Northern Rail Car, owned by William Gardner purchased the Wisconsin & Southern. When the dinner train was discontinued in 1990, Wisconsin & Southern retained the unit for its business train. The unit was rebuilt, including restoration of its porthole windows, and eventually renumbered 101 when an E9B was leased from Illinois Railway Museum and rebuilt to operate with 10C and Wisconsin & Southern’s other E9A, 10A, a former UP unit.

After Watco acquired Wisconsin & Southern in 2011, it sold the 10A to Iowa Pacific and the E9B was returned to the Illinois Railway Museum. The 10C was retained but saw minimal use. According to the Friends, the railroad hoped to see the locomotive go to a good home that would continue to use it and keep it in good working order, not rusting away in a museum or going to scrap. Longtime Friends of the 261 members Robert Schroeder and Mary Walters provided key support for the acquisition.

Friends of the 261 President and Chief Operating Officer Steve Sandberg says the E unit will be a great addition to the organization. “To have an original Milwaukee Road E-unit in our fleet is just amazing,” he says. “We can use this unit both to supplement 261 operations and allow us to run trips where it might be too expensive to operate 261. It will open up a lot of new markets for us. Of course, an E9, like 261, is an attraction itself.”

Like No. 261, the locomotive has a Sandberg family connection. It was once operated by Sandberg’s grandfather, Frank E. Sandberg Sr. The elder Sandberg was a Milwaukee Road engineer on the River Division operating passenger trains between Minneapolis and La Crosse, Wis. Steve Sandberg’s father, the late Frank E. Sandberg Jr. frequently rode with his father on passenger runs, and after Steve was born he brought his son along as well. 

“It’s a pretty safe bet I rode this unit as a boy,” Steve Sandberg says.

When Sandberg Sr. retired after 52 years of service in 1970, No. 32A was the lead locomotive on his last run, the Morning Hiawatha from La Crosse to Minneapolis. On arrival at the Minneapolis depot his family greeted him as he stepped from the cab for the last time, including his young grandson.

Sandberg says the unit needs minor mechanical work, and then will be repainted. But it won’t be painted Union Pacific yellow, the scheme it wore in Milwaukee Road days. The Friends fleet is all painted in the orange and maroon colors used by the Milwaukee until it began operating the UP streamliners, and having a yellow unit wouldn’t match the train. After World War II the Milwaukee Road used a variety of paint schemes on its passenger diesels, and Sandberg says he is studying which one might be appropriate to use in lieu of yellow. 

Friends of the 261 is asking for donations to go toward repainting the locomotive and for mechanical work. The organization hopes to have the unit ready to pull trips sometime in 2019.
 
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No. 10C, ex-Milwaukee 32A, pulls a special for the Gandy Dancers Festival in Madison Wis., on Aug. 8, 2007.
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"The E9 was delivered to the Milwaukee Road by EMD in April 1956 as No. 202A. It was part of six sets of A-B-A E9s to be used on Union Pacific’s “Cities” streamliners the Milwaukee began operating between Chicago and Omaha in 1955. All were delivered in UP yellow colors."

I suppose the question would be:

Would they paint the E9 in historically correct UP yellow/gray or go off to fantasy land and paint it maroon/orange/black?

Rusty

Rusty Traque posted:

"The E9 was delivered to the Milwaukee Road by EMD in April 1956 as No. 202A. It was part of six sets of A-B-A E9s to be used on Union Pacific’s “Cities” streamliners the Milwaukee began operating between Chicago and Omaha in 1955. All were delivered in UP yellow colors."

I suppose the question would be:

Would they paint the E9 in historically correct UP yellow/gray or go off to fantasy land and paint it maroon/orange/black?

Rusty

The article printed out above already answered that:

"Sandberg says the unit needs minor mechanical work, and then will be repainted. But it won’t be painted Union Pacific yellow, the scheme it wore in Milwaukee Road days. The Friends fleet is all painted in the orange and maroon colors used by the Milwaukee until it began operating the UP streamliners, and having a yellow unit wouldn’t match the train. After World War II the Milwaukee Road used a variety of paint schemes on its passenger diesels, and Sandberg says he is studying which one might be appropriate to use in lieu of yellow." 

breezinup posted:
Rusty Traque posted:

"The E9 was delivered to the Milwaukee Road by EMD in April 1956 as No. 202A. It was part of six sets of A-B-A E9s to be used on Union Pacific’s “Cities” streamliners the Milwaukee began operating between Chicago and Omaha in 1955. All were delivered in UP yellow colors."

I suppose the question would be:

Would they paint the E9 in historically correct UP yellow/gray or go off to fantasy land and paint it maroon/orange/black?

Rusty

The article printed out above already answered that:

"Sandberg says the unit needs minor mechanical work, and then will be repainted. But it won’t be painted Union Pacific yellow, the scheme it wore in Milwaukee Road days. The Friends fleet is all painted in the orange and maroon colors used by the Milwaukee until it began operating the UP streamliners, and having a yellow unit wouldn’t match the train. After World War II the Milwaukee Road used a variety of paint schemes on its passenger diesels, and Sandberg says he is studying which one might be appropriate to use in lieu of yellow." 

Given that information, the maroon band paint scheme would seem to make the most sense for continuity's sake:

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I'll admit, UP yellow/gray would clash with their passenger cars.  Sometimes, esthetics can trump accuracy.

Rusty

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We rode the City of Portland out of Chicago in '60 and '62 and in to Chicago in '61 and may well have ridden behind that unit. I loved the Es in UP livery. Spent a day twice in Green River watching those long yellow trains coming and going.

Clearly it needs to match the rest of their equipment but I sure wish it could have been otherwise.

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Many, many horses. Green River.

Lew

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Rusty Traque posted:

"The E9 was delivered to the Milwaukee Road by EMD in April 1956 as No. 202A. It was part of six sets of A-B-A E9s to be used on Union Pacific’s “Cities” streamliners the Milwaukee began operating between Chicago and Omaha in 1955. All were delivered in UP yellow colors."

I suppose the question would be:

Would they paint the E9 in historically correct UP yellow/gray or go off to fantasy land and paint it maroon/orange/black?

Rusty

I am hoping for the fantasy land version.

Personally I never much cared for the yellow MR scheme. Union Pacific had that covered, and a "me too" look-alike livery by another railroad wasn't needed, and didn't do anything to distinquish the MR. Besides, the true MR variety of liveries looked great, as well as being unique. So I'm very glad they'll be painting the E-9 some version of an original Milwaukee livery. Just my opinion. Those who like their E units in yellow (and I do - on a UP engine!), that's already been taken care of by the UP with these beauties.

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