I have seen pictures of what looks like someside ATSF passenger cars. But they seem to be painted GRAY, not silver. Am I seeing things, or did ATSF actually use such a livery?
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No, you're not.
Santa Fe had some smooth-sided passenger cars that were originally painted in the two-tone "Scout" scheme. Some were eventually painted solid grey.
Rusty
Santa Fe had some smooth-sided passenger cars that were originally painted in the two-tone "Scout" scheme. Some were eventually painted solid grey.
Rusty
Some of the solid gray Pullman built ATSF light-weight sleepers were in the 1950s through car oepration with the B&O (LA to DC) and NYC (LA to NYC).
Ed Bommer
Ed Bommer
Dominic, your eyes did not deceive you.
The history of Santa Fe passenger car painting is long and complicated, but there were two series of streamlined Pullmans built in 1942 that were smooth-sided and were delivered in medium grey with a dark grey window band, similar to cars operated by SP, UP, and maybe some other roads. Around 1960, Santa Fe did away with the window stripe and used solid medium grey. The Valley series (6-6-4, I think) were very common on all trains except the Chiefs, and even made their way into some Chief consists. Some no-frills baggage cars built in the 1960's were also smooth sided and grey.
Additionally, many Santa Fe heavyweight cars were repainted 2-tone or solid grey instead of coach green, beginning with the Scout in the 1930's and increasing during the last 20 years of Santa Fe passenger service.
The history of Santa Fe passenger car painting is long and complicated, but there were two series of streamlined Pullmans built in 1942 that were smooth-sided and were delivered in medium grey with a dark grey window band, similar to cars operated by SP, UP, and maybe some other roads. Around 1960, Santa Fe did away with the window stripe and used solid medium grey. The Valley series (6-6-4, I think) were very common on all trains except the Chiefs, and even made their way into some Chief consists. Some no-frills baggage cars built in the 1960's were also smooth sided and grey.
Additionally, many Santa Fe heavyweight cars were repainted 2-tone or solid grey instead of coach green, beginning with the Scout in the 1930's and increasing during the last 20 years of Santa Fe passenger service.
Does anybody know if the ATSF ever pulled the coach green heavyweights with a 3700 series engine, like the 3751? I have heard they did but have no pics.
I have heard that Pullman was considering TTG for sleepers becasued it looked more "modern", and it seems other roads where doing trains in TTG. (SP, UP, ATSF...)
Originally Posted by 400e:
Does anybody know if the ATSF ever pulled the coach green heavyweights with a 3700 series engine, like the 3751? I have heard they did but have no pics.
Oh, heavens yes. Every day they worked.
