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Several views from an October 1972 visit to Horseshoe Curve.  Yes, it wasn't Pennsy, but the action was almost constant, four tracks were still in place, and you could walk the entire length of the curve from Kittanning Point to McGinleys Curve for photos.  Track #2 would be pulled up in March '81, and K4 #1361 wold be removed in September '85, having been in place at Pennsy's most famous locale since 1957.  And you could still shoot a passenger train, in this case Amtrak #30, the eastbound "National Limited," that still looked like limiteds of an earlier era.

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  • Coal train ascending curveTO2
  • Eb drifting downgradeTO
  • Eb rounding apex of CurveTO
  • Eb with SP SD40 passing wb, beyond Curve apexTO
  • Helpers drifting downgradeTO2
  • Helpers on coal train ascending curveTO2
  • PRR K4 on display at the CurveTO
  • Wb climbing above apex of curveTO
  • Wb helpers sanding heavilyTO
  • Wb just rounding curveTO
  • Amtrak #30, eb National LimitedTO
  • Amtrak #30, eb National Limited2TO
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The signal bridge finally came down about two years ago too, Rick.  We were at the curve in July 2010 and the signal bridge had been replaced by a new structure and 3 color light signals.  We later "found" the old signal bridge at the Railroader's Memorial Museum in downtown Altoona.  They may have done something with it by now but, at that time, it was simply sitting in pieces in the "back 40".

 

The National Limited was my primary means of transportation to and from Pittsburgh while I was in college.  I rode often enough that the trainmen would allow me to stand in an open dutch door coming eastward down the mountain and around the curve.  It was ordinarily dark on the westbound trip, so I wouldn't bother with it when I was returning to school on Sunday evenings.

 

Thanks for posting!

 

Curt

Actually, No. 30 doesn't look all that bad in this shot, except for the power.  Over the next few years, the "National" would garner one of Amtrak's worst reputations, so bad that the Sunnyside Yard workers who assembled the consists were often ashamed to send them out.  I watched the last one leave Dayton in Oct., '79.  Now IT was shabby; just pitiful.  I stood on the platform until I could no longer hear the whistle, as the pea soup fog enveloped this sad little conclusion to decades of PRR service.  The "Spirit of St. Louis" this wasn't.  Today, train, station and tracks are all gone.  Dayton has had no service since, on any route.

In its days on the Baltimore & Ohio between New York and Jersey City to St. Louis MO up to 1958, and from Baltimore to St. Louis afterward into the late 1960s, the "National Limited" was a fine train.

 

Its name was taken over by Amtrak and applied to other routings just as the B&O "Capitol Limited" name has been. Equipment and service was a shabby, forlorn shadow of its former self.

 

 

In '78 and '79, still in high school, I took up photography, the old man's profession.  We were a Columbus, Ohio RR family, he volunteered at the Ohio RR Museum.  With a joint interest, we hung out at the "temporary" Amtrak station in Columbus and I cut my teeth with low light photography on the National.  One photo I took of one of the last runs won an award at the Ohio State fair just before I went into the Navy in 1980 and hangs in my living today.  No service for Columbus since then either.  Funny though, recently, a friend asked if we had photos of that box of an Amtrak station.  Lots of photos of the train, the B&O switcher, but none of that crummy station!
 
Fast forward to the late '80's, post Navy, Dad and I revived the tradition, only it was a long drive to Crestline to catch the Broadway.  Of course it's gone too!  
 
In June of '41, Columbus was served by 61 trains, 122 arrivals and departures daily.  I wonder how that compared to service out of the airport today (although a lot of these trains were local).
 
Bob
 
 
Originally Posted by Jim Tighe:

Actually, No. 30 doesn't look all that bad in this shot, except for the power.  Over the next few years, the "National" would garner one of Amtrak's worst reputations, so bad that the Sunnyside Yard workers who assembled the consists were often ashamed to send them out.  I watched the last one leave Dayton in Oct., '79.  Now IT was shabby; just pitiful.  I stood on the platform until I could no longer hear the whistle, as the pea soup fog enveloped this sad little conclusion to decades of PRR service.  The "Spirit of St. Louis" this wasn't.  Today, train, station and tracks are all gone.  Dayton has had no service since, on any route.

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