How do you dispense and store Red 'N Tacky?--3/25/15 NEW QUESTION on LUBRICATION

Use a "syringe curved" 12cc.  Search amazon or there are many other sources.

They work great.

Dan

Carl,

I just started using red n tacky and found that the grease gun tube has a replacable cap on one end So I'm just leaving it in the tube. I just put a small glob on a shop towel for each job. They also sell it in a tub if you prefer.

 

Jay in Ottawa

Get the syringes that Loco-Dan suggests, get a tube of Red & Tacky, and then put it in your grease gun to fill the syringes. Then you're ready to go for many engines in the future.

I use a 10 ml syringe.  I replaced the rubber plunger with leather as the grease attacks the rubber over time.  The needle on the syringe allows for getting in tight places.  I fill by removing the plunger and putting the grease in the back, then replace the plunger.

 

You can smash the needle in a vise, not completely and it allows you to grease the axles most of the time      

Here ya go. I tried to "goat" Eric Siegel & Marty E into making a better video as I sent them the youtube addy of mine. He's so darn good at making those videos! But I'll post up here. I repeat myself all the time and I could have used better camera work. I didn't get a good shot of me putting the lube inside the gear covers. I need my wife to better direct my youtube vids.

 

So Here it is:

I found a tooth pick works well to get it on gears.
I did try with white grease and the curved syringe and had a hard time getting grease to come out.

guess I didn't smile right.

Thanks, all.

 

Now, what do you use for axles, running gear on steamers, and other similar applications?  In the distant past, I used a LaBelle product, the no. of which I don't recall, with a needle applicator.

Here's an assortment of syringes you can use them for glue & other stuff too: Syringe Assortment Caps & Dispensing Tips Adhesives Glue Crafts Hobby As others have said, there are more on Amazon and ebay.

 

I just left the Red 'N' Tacky in it's original tube that I got at Home Depot: 14 oz. Red 'N' Tacky Grease  It has a re-closeable lid. Refill syringe as needed using a craft stick or thin piece of wood or whatever you can find.

 

You might get it cheaper at an auto parts store, but I was already at Home Depot one day when I saw this. It's more than a lifetime supply.

 

I use MTH oil or LaBelle for axels etc. The Labelle was the one for O gauge I believe it is medium, maybe 107? I'll have to look for that one, I think it said O gauge on the bottle?

I used to buy the LaBelle and Hobe-E-Lube from Woodland Scenics, but now I just refill those bottles with synthetic motor oil.

Jim

 

Sorry I've been busy with a sick pup the few weeks. Nice video!  

I bought a tub of Red N Tacky and put some in a small jar I had and use a wooden tooth pick to put it on the gears.

Will Amsoil 20-50 work?

Sure will, but it's a little thick for what you need.

I use 'Marvel Mystery Oil' in an old LaBelle bottle for PW steamer axles and motor bearings. LaBelle 107 for anything with plastic or nylon gears on the shaft. Gears get either White Lithium, Red N' Tacky, or Moly Lube, depending on material, wear, and operating speed.

 

 

Pingman,

   I purchase the Red & Tacky from Harbor Freight, in the Grease gun tube, I then use the Grease gun to load the syringe.  I like both the curved tip and the hose extension on the syringes.   A little R&T goes a long way on both the engines and all the rolling stock.

PCRR/Dave

Mr. Pingman,

Carl, Sure it will work, however, the viscosity(even at 20w) will create problems. I use Lucas' Gun Oil. It's been my only light oil for almost 15 years.

 

"Pappy" 

Carl,

I use light sewing machine oil to lube wheels, rollers etc. That was recommended by my LHS when I got started and it works well for me.

 

Jay in Ottawa

I found them on the 'Bay for $2.96 for two with free shipping, no tax.  

Regarding the video posted on January 3,2015 by “trainrails” demonstrating how to grease the large gear in the big boy gearbox using red ‘n tacky.  Question: Do you have to remove the grease used by Lionel at the factory before applying the red & tacky?  Will the red 'n tacky stick to the gear if you don’t remove the original grease?  Thank you for the answers.

Thanks to all who posted in reply to my original and subsequent questions.  I did purchase and receive the curved syringes, Red 'N Tacky, etc.  So I'll have some well serviced horizontal motor, PW,  power trucks come next Monday.

Carl,

I did not respond a few hours ago..whoops! Make sure the tip (foot) is chemical resistant. Be certain you store store syringe upside down as ever now and again a little will seep out.

I cover mine with a small plastic bag.

 

"Pappy"

I use an old make-up brush from one of my g-daughters make-up kit.  Its 1/4" wide, only 2" long.  I store the R n T in a small wide mouth jar.  I just dip the brush in the jar and "paint" the gears with a (lite) coat of R N T. Works great for the axle gears on my 2343 F3 and Geeps. Dont need much. just a film around the gears.  No muss no fuss.  Works for me.  Just dont get it on your wifes fine linen table-cloth or you will be sleeping with your trains!!!

I was told that you should remove all of the other grease. Some grease do not get along together when mixed. Some will harden up when mixed. I for one am not a fan of Red and Tacky on the drive and worm gears on locomotives. It does works great on my truck.

Lionel ( Talk to Us )says to use white lithium grease on the gears.

 

 

Bob C.

Lionel should know. They have been doing this for a long time.

 

 

...keep the rails polished...

I have white lithium grease but have also ordered some Red n Tacky just for the heck of it.

 

Bob C.

Yep, had a thread going on this a while back.

Best tool in the house!

 

 

https://ogrforum.com/t...st-tool-in-the-house

 

 

 

I keep Red n Tacky in a straight and curved syringe.  In the photo below...the two bottles on the left have Atlas Motor Bearing and Conducta Lubes.  I really like the Atlas lubes.  They came in different bottles.  The bottles shown were found on the bay.

I store mine in an old pill bottle. A Q-Tip with the end cut off at an angle makes a great applicator.

 

Gilly

I called Lionel, was told to use white lithium grease for the gears and LaBelle 102 for lubing everything else. I asked how much grease to put in the gear boxes and they said they didn't know which i thought was odd. I don't see why any good grade of synthetic grease or oil won't work.

Trainrails, thanks for posting this, your video answered all my questions on this subject.

I use a FOOD Injector.

found at Walmart for about $4.00.

cut the pointed end OFF and you can fill

it with your favorite Lube and have an

O Gauge Grease gun.

 

I have all MTH engines except one which is Lionel. MTH grease looks just like the Red N Tacky (maybe Labelle 106, but I don't have any Labelle 106?). Neither is white, both are red. Red N Tacky is a blend of lithium and polymers (per label).  MTH's oil bottle says made by Labelle for MTH (does not say what Labelle product it is). I am not at all familiar with any of the Lionel lubricant products as most of my fleet is MTH.

 

FWIW, according to Labelle the 102 is gear oil for exposed gears and the 107 is medium weight motor oil for moving parts on HO, S, O, Lionel and Garden size scale model railroads and the 106 is for enclosed gear boxes.

 

Labelle has a 55 minute how-to dvd on lubricating models with their products that can be ordered from their website. Might be interesting to order one just to see what they have to say, you never know? My guess is Lionel, MTH and Labelle are all in this together as far as these lubricants go. I would be surprised if they did not discuss lubricants with one another.

Has anyone heard of Red N Tacky eating metal because its a high acid grease? I have had no issues with it so far.

I just tested my  Red N Tacky with litmus paper and it reads a neutral pH so I question the "acid" of it.

3/25/15 new question:

 

Do you use the same oil to lubricate the armature shaft in a PW F3 horizontal motor?

 

Thanks.

Yes I do. Not oil, though, these use Red 'N' Tacky to lube the armature:

 

Mark,

I used it as assembly lube for almost thirty-years. That was back in my street rod days. Red N Tacky has been around for many, many years. It was only available to industry before the general public. I've never heard anything about "high acid". I'm sorry, I'll agree with Jim. I don't recall anything in Lucas' Promo Paks about acid content.

........ grease that eats metal ......kinda defeats the purpose.....better not get any on your skin.

 

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