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Look what I found hiding in my garage.  Forgotten for 50 years.  Did this go on the rear of a caboose?  It has two lenses, red and amber.  Marked CNO&TP.

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Anyone have a picture of a CNO&TP caboose with this kind of lantern?

Bill

 

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Last edited by Odenville Bill
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Some confusion here:

1) First you state the railroad is "Marked CNL&TP", which I have not heard of. Then further down you show the photo of the "Railroad name", i.e. "CNO&TP", which is the Cincinnati, New Orleans & Texas Pacific, part of the Southern Railway system (between Cincinnati and Chattanooga, TN.).

2) You indicate that it has two lenses, one red and one amber, which could very possibly be a caboose marker lamp (not a 'lantern').

totrainyard posted:

It could be a Track Turnout Switch lantern.

White lense for straight route, red for diverging route.

I think switch lanterns are more common on the used market, and easier to find (or steal).

Caboose lantern are more sexy IMHO.

A switch lamp has 4 lenses, it has to be seen from both directions.

I agree with Hot Water, it's likely a caboose marker, and very early one at that.  Some railroads used an amber lens instead of green.

Rusty

Rusty Traque posted:
totrainyard posted:

It could be a Track Turnout Switch lantern.

White lense for straight route, red for diverging route.

I think switch lanterns are more common on the used market, and easier to find (or steal).

Caboose lantern are more sexy IMHO.

A switch lamp has 4 lenses, it has to be seen from both directions.

I agree with Hot Water, it's likely a caboose marker, and very early one at that.  Some railroads used an amber lens instead of green.

Rusty

Right. Red to the rear and amber to the side. Not uncommon in the steam days of railroading, especially in the very early 1900s.

Hot Water posted:
Rusty Traque posted:
totrainyard posted:

It could be a Track Turnout Switch lantern.

White lense for straight route, red for diverging route.

I think switch lanterns are more common on the used market, and easier to find (or steal).

Caboose lantern are more sexy IMHO.

A switch lamp has 4 lenses, it has to be seen from both directions.

I agree with Hot Water, it's likely a caboose marker, and very early one at that.  Some railroads used an amber lens instead of green.

Rusty

Right. Red to the rear and amber to the side. Not uncommon in the steam days of railroading, especially in the very early 1900s.

Also, some roads, especially those in the Northeast with multiple main tracks, required that the markers be turned to display amber to the rear when clear of main tracks in sidings or when moving  against the current of traffic in territory with three or more main tracks. Requirements often got very detailed depending on the railroad, number of mains and their respective operating rules.    

Last edited by GP40
Hot Water posted:

Some confusion here:

1) First you state the railroad is "Marked CNL&TP", which I have not heard of. Then further down you show the photo of the "Railroad name", i.e. "CNO&TP", which is the Cincinnati, New Orleans & Texas Pacific, part of the Southern Railway system (between Cincinnati and Chattanooga, TN.).

Guessing he just hit the wrong key with the "L" being under the "O" on the keyboard? 

Thanks Jim!...I never knew what it actually was used for.

I remember when my dad brought it home.  We hung it and actually lit it many times.  I believe it was black when he first got it.  I got it from him a few years before he passed away....The chevy orange isn't my favorite, but he liked it so I haven't been able to bring myself to repaint it.

Bill's lamp appears to have two lenses, one on each side of the lamp. Also on the right side of the lamp is a tubular portion that sticks out from the body of the lamp. The mounting bracket slid into the tubular reciver, positioning it between the two arms of the train order signal. This is a train order lamp.

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