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I was examining an Atlas CPL signal and best as I can determine without taking it apart destructively, is that the two red LEDs anodes are wired in parallel to its red power wire, two paralleled yellows to its yellow wire, ditto for greens. All LED cathodes are grounded to signal frame.

From what I remember in school or reading online, if LEDS are paralleled, the one with the lower Vf will light and the other may or may not, or lights dimmed.  Yet these LEDs shine with apparent equal brightness.  I can't imagine Atlas carefully matching LEDs for same Vf.  As far as I can determine by wiring examination, there are no LED built-in current limiting resistors on signal itself, except on the signal driver board for each color power wire (frame is common negative grounded for LED cathodes). 

What am I missing here? 

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Doing a little voltage measurements, I determined the greens are operating on 120uA.  2.65V dropped across a 22K (red,red, orange + measured directly) resistor equaled 120uA. Must be super bright, super efficient, very low current green LEDs.   (Years ago a company component engineer postulated that LED technology would never be bright enough to be usable outdoors or even for a flashlight!)

Other LEDs operate in 5 to 10mA ranges so the greens were a surprise.

If you wire a blue, a green, a red and a white leds in parallel you will find they light up at slightly different voltages.  And as you dial up the voltage you will see them come on at different voltages. 

The same pn# leds from a given manufacturer will usually light up at the same voltage and exhibit very close emission vs current characteristics .

 

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aussteve posted:

If you wire a blue, a green, a red and a white leds in parallel you will find they light up at slightly different voltages.  And as you dial up the voltage you will see them come on at different voltages. 

 

This can be true if they are "fully" in parallel but not if, say, they share a single current path (say, through a shared current-limiting resistor) .  In that case, the LED with the smallest Vf will, when it starts conducting, work to shunt as much current as it can to keep the voltage constant to both LEDs.  And, if the smallest Vf (say, on a nominal yellow LED) is appreciably different from the largest Vf (say, on a nominal white LED) the voltage will never rise to the point where the white LED turns on.  One good reason for LEDs in parallel not to share their current-limiting resistor.  This post on SE demonstrates this nicely:

https://electronics.stackexcha...r-many-parallel-leds

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