Lionel 2-truck Shay derailment problem

Not other than cutting away some of the structure.  I have the Legacy two-truck Shay, but I haven't run it on tight curves.

You may be able to find the original K line parts that allows the coupler to swing on tighter curves.

There is an extension bracket that K-Line made for the Shays.  One was used at each end of the engine to extend the coupler about half an inch, and allow a greater swing.  Lionel chose not to make this part when they reissued the Shay.  I believe that someone on the Forum had replacements manufactured (but I may be remembering this incorrectly).  Cutting away part of the pilot beam actually sounds like a good solution if it will permit greater swing of the coupler.  It may look better than the extended coupler solution.

X2000

Joe S posted:

 Cutting away part of the pilot beam actually sounds like a good solution if it will permit greater swing of the coupler.  It may look better than the extended coupler solution.

X2000

I'd like to try this, but not on the original part. (There's some chance I'd make a mess of it.) Since Lionel is apparently out of this part, does anyone have a suggestion on where to look for a replacement pilot beam?

It was discussed about making the parts, but I don't think it ever happened.  I may regret not saving the information.

hearncl posted:

Joe S posted:

 Cutting away part of the pilot beam actually sounds like a good solution if it will permit greater swing of the coupler.  It may look better than the extended coupler solution.

X2000

I'd like to try this, but not on the original part. (There's some chance I'd make a mess of it.) Since Lionel is apparently out of this part, does anyone have a suggestion on where to look for a replacement pilot beam?

What P/N from Lionel is it?

It's the curves, not the locomotive. Physics. A curve that is so tight that a Shay (I have this loco - that is, when it was sold as K-line; same piece) and/or its rolling stock can't handle it is just too, too tight. Don't butcher the loco; fix the problem.

TrainingDave posted:

hearncl posted:

Joe S posted:

 Cutting away part of the pilot beam actually sounds like a good solution if it will permit greater swing of the coupler.  It may look better than the extended coupler solution.

X2000

I'd like to try this, but not on the original part. (There's some chance I'd make a mess of it.) Since Lionel is apparently out of this part, does anyone have a suggestion on where to look for a replacement pilot beam?

What P/N from Lionel is it?

Lionel lists parts for all the 2-truck legacy Shay road names, of which there are a lot. I had checked the part availability for my model, West Side Lumber #5. The part number for the Pilot Beam w/Footboards, color Oxide, is 610-1235-071, unavailable.

However, I discovered that this part is available for some of the other road names, under P/N 610-1233-071, color Black.

I think they are all the same part, just different colors. I will order one of the black ones and hope that I can match the Oxide color (brownish) if the surgery is successful.

Note: This part is rather expensive, $16.40.

Well it is die-cast and they probably have limited qty of them. You could always wait until the warehouse sale in Nov. when parts are 50% off.

HearnCL,

   I posted pictures of the modification job I did on my Legacy Shay for all to see quite some time ago, do an OGR Search they should still be there for you to see.  Once you modify the stairs the 2 Truck Legacy Shay will accommodate 036 curves correctly pulling what ever rolling stock you so desire.

PCRR/Dave

Pine Creek Railroad posted:

HearnCL,

   I posted pictures of the modification job I did on my Legacy Shay for all to see quite some time ago, do an OGR Search they should still be there for you to see.  Once you modify the stairs the 2 Truck Legacy Shay will accommodate 036 curves correctly pulling what ever rolling stock you so desire.

PCRR/Dave

Yes, that is a beautiful job, but beyond my mechanical ability I'm afraid. How did you cut off the steps and re-fasten them to the pilot beam?