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Hi everyone! A friend and I were talking last night and he pointed out something on the website. The schedule had been updated, and not only are the 18 inch cars (the ones that Lionel stated are cancelled)  are still on there but they have dates of the end of this year. I am well aware of the discussions on here about some being cancelled, and being replaced by the 21 inch cars, and have seen the info from Lionel. So my question is this another one Lionels mistakes with the schedule, or did they change the plans and will still be making the cars they planned on cancelling. Any info would be appreciated. Many thanks in advance.

 

Bill

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I wouldn't get your hopes up. Here's a link to a flyer from Charles Ro that was posted on another thread and shows exactly which 18" sets have been cancelled and replaced by the new 21" sets: http://charlesro.com/justin1.html

 

You will notice that (a) the 18" sets that have been cancelled are still shown on Lionel's list but (b) the 21" cars are not listed yet. I think that the dates shown for shipping of the cancelled sets are are actually the ones for the 21" replacements.

 

So there must be a mistake but in other respects the list looks like an accurate update. For example, arrival of the E-8 A-A sets is now listed as next month as are the Vision PFE reefers; unfortunately the Legacy cranes are put all the way back to December.

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I don't get it.   What is going on at Lionel.  So far, I am not impressed with this new management team.  Just my opinion, but this current catalog is WEAK.  Very limited offerings in almost every category.  The shipping schedule is useless.  I have no idea when any of the stuff I am waiting on from the 2014 catalog will come in.  But thats OK--I'm still having fun, and not spending anymore money in the process.

I don't get it.   What is going on at Lionel.  So far, I am not impressed with this new management team.  Just my opinion, but this current catalog is WEAK.  Very limited offerings in almost every category.  The shipping schedule is useless.  I have no idea when any of the stuff I am waiting on from the 2014 catalog will come in.  But thats OK--I'm still having fun, and not spending anymore money in the process.

 

 

I agree!!!!

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I think schedule slipping, while annoying, is to be expected from all the toy makers.

 

But what I feel is not tolerable is that a spec mistake in a 2010-2014 is NOT corrected. I was looking for a PRR K4S in Tuscon color with whistle smoke, the Lionel catalog does not show this model as having this feature (item #6-11319, Legacy). I missed three great auctions thinking it does not have it. Now I see some dealers advertising that is DOES have the whistle smoke. For some one like me who is fairly new to Lionel's culture, it is very annoying.

 

 

BTW, MTH also has many mistakes on their site....

 

How difficult is it to task one employee with a single goal: look at the site and the catalogs and fix all the little silly mistakes that deny customers a purchase....I mean they lose money and some of us get annoyed...

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Originally Posted by BigBoy4014:

I think schedule slipping, while annoying, is to be expected from all the toy makers.

 

Yes, a lot of delays are beyond their control. Also I don't mind a delay if it relates to the proper development of operating features, which is what I understand has happened with the Legacy cranes and VL reefers.

 

But what I feel is not tolerable is that a spec mistake in a 2010-2014 is NOT corrected. I was looking for a PRR K4S in Tuscon color with whistle smoke, the Lionel catalog does not show this model as having this feature (item #6-11319, Legacy). I missed three great auctions thinking it does not have it. Now I see some dealers advertising that is DOES have the whistle smoke. For some one like me who is fairly new to Lionel's culture, it is very annoying.

 

That's a real bummer. This engine does have whistle smoke but from the online catalog you'll only know by seeing that there is a whistle smoke addendum to the operating manual. Manuals are not always posted when the model ships. The VL Big Boy was a conspicuous exception as it was available before shipment.

 

BTW, MTH also has many mistakes on their site....

 

How difficult is it to task one employee with a single goal: look at the site and the catalogs and fix all the little silly mistakes that deny customers a purchase....I mean they lose money and some of us get annoyed...

 

I have wondered about this myself and I'd be inclined to agree with tasking someone with what is more than just proofreading bearing in mind the attention the catalogues get from serious O gauge buyers. What I wouldn't agree with (and it's not in your post but earlier ones) is castigating a whole management team for these mistakes. Lionel has delivered a lot over the past several years and as far as I am concerned QC, operating features and a reliable parts and service back-up are a lot more important than what I can get from their advertising/shipping updates.

 

Originally Posted by Hancock52:

I wouldn't get your hopes up. Here's a link to a flyer from Charles Ro that was posted on another thread and shows exactly which 18" sets have been cancelled and replaced by the new 21" sets: http://charlesro.com/justin1.html

 

You will notice that (a) the 18" sets that have been cancelled are still shown on Lionel's list but (b) the 21" cars are not listed yet. I think that the dates shown for shipping of the cancelled sets are are actually the ones for the 21" replacements.

 

 

As Hancock's post points out Charles Ro  flyer shows which 18" sets will be replaced with 21" sets, which seems to be a question many people have at this point in time.

 

Jack

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