Locomotives & Cars That Lionel Should Make

 

 

McCloud River Railroad and Western Pacific Exterior-braced 50' Double-door Box Cars with the truck bolsters revised to accept the new roller bearing trucks.

 

Andrew

 

Die-Cast three-bay, open-top hoppers with coal load in the Chessie System C&O/B&O/WM scheme.

 

Andrew

 

Plastic-body three-bay, open-top hoppers with coal load in the Chessie System B&O/C&O/WM graphic schemes.

 

Andrew

 

 

 

GATX 1993 TankTrainer Tank car and GATX 1898 schoolhouse 57' Mechanical Refrigerator Car.

 

Andrew

 

ILLINOIS CENTRAL GULF ACF Center Flow 3560 Cu. Ft. 3-Bay Covered Hoppers

Revised bolsters that accept the new roller bearing trucks.

 

Andrew

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SOUTHERN Auto Carrier from the 1970's.

 

Andrew

Oh, for a Legacy or Vision Veranda Turbine!

I don't know - maybe Norfolk and Western black with a red stripe?

 

Actually, I've repainted eightlocos - a Williams diesel, five BEEPs, and two BANGS, into the UP armor yellow.  After experimenting with various brands and shades of armor yellow from model suppliers, I settled on just using the paint made for parking lot stripes.  It's among the darker shades of 'armor yellow' as far as all my various factory models go, matching well the Lionel Veranda Turbine from years ago (it's painted the darkest shade of armor yellow I've seen).

I am all for a Scale S-2. I am still waiting for Lionel to make the UP GAS TURBINES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Baldwin 3-cylinder compound 4-10-2 No. 60000 in The Train Factory (formerly Railroad Hall) in The Franklin Institute, Philadelphia (www.fi.edu). Visitors can ride in her cab. She still has her BALDWIN LOCOMOTIVE WORKS paint scheme - a real-life version of prewar "crackle black"!

 

Reading N-1 2-8-8-2, rebuilt as 2-8-8-0

 

Reading K-1 2-10-2, rebuilt from 11 2-8-8-2's

C&NW E class

I doubt MTh (or anybody) will bother to make this, but I would love a good, detailed scale model of this Brookville BL06 600 HP two-axle switcher, with sound, smoke, etc.  A real BEEP!  I buy several to run together (after repainting UP, of course) and they would look (and sound) very good on my tighter-curve loop.

I would still love to see a model of the Reading and Northern 425 in it's current setup (I mean I would think Lionel would have tooling to make a Pacific).

 

I would also love to see a model of the Chestnut Ridge Railway Mack Railbus (now in Phillipsburg)

EMD DD35A Demonstrator and more……………………………..  

 

Regards,

Swafford

 

Original by Michael Eby          Painted by Frank Swafford

 

 

The Texas & Pacific 2-10-4 steamer would be nice, but painted in the American Freedom Train colors of 1976.

 

Ron

<< The last issue of a scale Pennsy S-2 Turbine was back in 2001, and I think that if Lionel re-issued one with Legacy, it would fly off dealer shelves>>

 

The 2001 version is awsome.  Much improved over the 1990 version.  With elephant ears.  But what much could be improved?  The 'swoosh' sound?  There is no chuffing.  Also I'm sure Lionel could emit steam (smoke) from somewhere else.

 

Maybe add the ability to select 'swoosh' or chuff?  That'd probably sell.

 

I'd like to see Lionel offer a few different Pennsy electrics, like the L5, in Legacy.  Maybe Mike will let Lionel borrow the dies.  Afterall, Lionel let Mike use the Lionel name on the Tinplate Classics.  QuidProQuo

I'm with CARCRAZY, with the Reading & Northern 425

 

Along with these Hopper cars,

Rapid Discharge Cars.....................in Sets of 5 Cars

 

Regards,

Swafford 

 

Well, the Motor City Express would not be complete without some 86' High Cube Auto Parts Boxcars.

Re-issues are nice, but how about something new to Lionel. I have two items left on my "wish list":

 

1. WABASH BLUE BIRD SCALE PASSENGER SET.

2. SANTE FE HIGH-LEVEL PASSENGER CARS

I would buy a scale three rail Mack railbus as mentioned above....it always blows my mind when I see these lists wanting yet another (99th) version of tired (exhausted!)prototypes made in the 1950's....not a snowball's chance I'd spring 98 cents for any of

them..but I haven't sprung for the 1950's ones, either...

Kick me the next time I open one of these threads...the manufacturers listen to their

trained "marketing" people, who know less about trains than your cat...

Still need the Cab Forward.Been waiting a long time, especially since the one in 2008 was cancelled. Station sound cars for all the sets that are missing them. Need these items now.

I'm starting a rumor that I heard they were only going to make prototypical models for Seaboard Air Line and Atlantic Coast Line?

 

Anyway, here's my input:

 

 

Q3 Mike.

 

or one of their Ten-Wheelers:

 

the mack FCD railbus,an FL9,metro north Brookville loco.might be nice...

I would like to see them produce a Mckeen motor car in either O scale, O tinplate, or standard gauge.

I would also like to have a center cab 50 ton diesel switcher with side rods.

 

Eric Hofberg

TCA, LCCA

I would like to see a good authentic rendition of a D&H Challenger.

Or how about standard sized, common propane tank cars that are seen just about everywhere , everyday around the country. (not the extremely long behemouths that are shown in just about every train makers catalog.    

1 - YES - Reading and Northern #425; of course, as it was originally Gulf, Mobile and

Northern #425, I guarantee that within 7 days of entering my lair, it would no

longer be blue (!), and it would have the original GM&N logo on the tender. Everybody

would be happy - especially if Lionel offered it in its original look, but I don't think

that Lionel is up to that.

 

2 - to comment upon Bob Delbridge's SAL/ACL suggestions: Those two large railroads,

along with the RF&P, had very interesting steam, yet are largely neglected in the

O-scale world, so far as I know. The SAL had the first 2-6-6-4's, I believe - before the

N&W A's, and they were kinda high-speed locos. The ACL liked freight Pacifics. The

RFP and ACL had some really striking big steam. 

 

But, like the MoPac, KCS and Frisco out in The Middle, these roads seem to have 

fallen into a black hole, relative to steam modelers.

 

Too bad; I feel that these Atlantic (and Middle) roads had far more interesting steam power than, for example, the B&O.

1) GWR 0-6-0 Pannier tank with Legacy

 

2) LNER A4 4-6-2 "Mallard"  with Legacy and matching coaches.

 

3) More of Thomas's the tank engines friends. Have a look at what Hornby does in OO gauge and do it in O gauge. Job done.

 

4) Lionmaster Legacy cab forward. 

 

Nick

There still is a crying need for a good, scale size, 4-6-0 from around the turn of the century. The few engines available in this wheel arrangement are either not up to par for detail and fidelity to prototype (Rail King, Williams) or much too big and modern looking to run in front of old-fashioned cars (Lionel). And make it available in black, undecorated. 

 

I also like the TankTrainer posted by falconservice. I'm more a steam era guy, but that would be tempting. 

- Amtrak Genesis - about 20 years overdue. Probably the most known Amtrak locomotive of modern times. Why Lionel has avoided this engine makes no sense to me. It needs to be made! Any paint scheme would be great, but of course the heritage schemes would be a smash hit.

- Amtrak F40PH - almost 40 years overdue! Anybody who loves Amtrak loves the F40, and again Lionel has seemed to avoid it. Why!?

- Amtrak P30CH - would be a great Vision Line candidate. A somewhat unusual diesel, and hardly any models of it exist, in any scale. I'd love to have one of these pulling my Superliners!

My understanding of the 60000 that I saw last winter is that the black paint was added when the engine was moved into the museum. As a prototype it was painted purple and gold lettering. Maybe they wanted to sell to ACL. It was only used as a demo and then sat in storage for a year before heading to the museum. The black paint is only because "steam engines are black" the engine never had it in it's brief service.

       

 

If they are going to make an 86' boxcar then make Detroit & Toledo Shore Line or Detroit, Toledo & Ironton and Southern Pacific/SSW COTTON BELT.

 

 

 

 

Andrew

 

 

 

 

I would like to see a Reading T-1 It has been years sence Lionel has done one.

 The last one that was done was with rail sounds and no tmcc.

A Legacy Reading T-1 is due.

Aluminum Rapid-Discharge Five-Bay Covered Hopper for coal in Burlington Northern Santa Fe Railway scheme. To be used in the Rotary Coal Car Tipper.

 

Andrew

Besides black and undecorated, offer it with an OIL TENDER option. Not everyone lives in coal country...

 

Cheers,

Ken

I thought this would be a no-brainer:

 

The "Mid America" passenger car set that 765 has been toting around the country.  

 

Also, a GM&N/BM&R/RBM&N #425 would be suitable for at least 5 different repaints/configurations.

 

I also agree that Lionel is due to produce an updated and better detailed Reading T-1 (which also is amenable to several paint schemes:  Reading Freight, Reading Rambles, AFT#1 (early and late version), Chessie #2101, Blue Mountain & Reading/Reading&Northern #2102, D&H #302, and even (God-forbid) Ferroequus #2100.

Bring back the scale 700-series freight cars exactly the way they were in 1940, except wih steel insulated wheels and a body mount coupler option.  Make the box car in metal, and produce the lost stock car.  Produce the trucks exactly the way they were done in 1940, and make extras.  Make some in kit form.

That's for sure. Saw a set at a Cal Stewart Show several years ago and they were really impressive given they were 60+ years old at the time. Williams did a reproduction set as well which were pretty well done -- can't remember what year.