david1 posted:If I were Lionel or MTH I would tell Siemens to go pound sand until they become more reasonable.
Dave
It's their license, they can charge what they want and set whatever conditions. Siemens is an approximate 93 billion dollar world-wide company.
Lionel, MTH and/or the model railroad community are just grains of that sand.
Rusty
Rusty Traque posted:david1 posted:If I were Lionel or MTH I would tell Siemens to go pound sand until they become more reasonable.
Dave
It's their license, they can charge what they want and set whatever conditions. Siemens is an approximate 93 billion dollar world-wide company.
Lionel, MTH and/or the model railroad community are just grains of that sand.
Rusty
That’s fine that it’s their license, but don’t see what the issue with allowing a company to build a model and be reasonable about it. Don’t have these problems with GE, EMD, etc.
Anything Delaware Lackawanna and Western! Erie Lackawanna doesn't do it for me. Maybe an Arcade and Attica 44 tonner and boonton coaches (in dl&w and A&A schemes)
MikeH posted:If they're going to offer Alco PA's or EMD E/F's, how about B Units with smoke and sound?
Yes! Please!
Bryant Dunivan 111417 posted:I forgot the 800 pound gorilla in the room. Mike, please make a Premier handheld remote for the people who would like to purchase it. Cost should not be that much of a factor, considering we pay almost $2000 for a new engines. This is a time that MTH can shine.
If they did a remote that would have a quilling whistle slider like legacy, I'd be in.
Bryant Dunivan 111417 posted:I forgot the 800 pound gorilla in the room. Mike, please make a Premier handheld remote for the people who would like to purchase it. Cost should not be that much of a factor, considering we pay almost $2000 for a new engines. This is a time that MTH can shine.
I doubt it. The WIU and app is the future going forward.
Lou1985 posted:Bryant Dunivan 111417 posted:I forgot the 800 pound gorilla in the room. Mike, please make a Premier handheld remote for the people who would like to purchase it. Cost should not be that much of a factor, considering we pay almost $2000 for a new engines. This is a time that MTH can shine.
I doubt it. The WIU and app is the future going forward.
I agree, they won't change. I hope my eyesight and my fingers do not degrade in the future. I would hope that one does not outgrow this hobby. If eyes or dexterity is a problem for someone, this would be a bigger problem. We arent getting any younger.
I've pretty much given up on MTH's motive power, same status quo features. I do like their RK buildings though, and hope to see some innovation in that line.
Lou1985 posted:Bryant Dunivan 111417 posted:I forgot the 800 pound gorilla in the room. Mike, please make a Premier handheld remote for the people who would like to purchase it. Cost should not be that much of a factor, considering we pay almost $2000 for a new engines. This is a time that MTH can shine.
I doubt it. The WIU and app is the future going forward.
And it's not like the APP is the end-all & be-all.
MTH can still elect to build a physical remote that would operate via the WIU or TIU (current TIUs are still sole with the 900MHz transceiver).
The app can also be easily upgraded with a cheap API to allow add-on gaming controllers to interface an control functions & features. now you would attach you tablet or phone to a handled controller that gives you the physical buttons you want.
H1000 posted:Lou1985 posted:Bryant Dunivan 111417 posted:I forgot the 800 pound gorilla in the room. Mike, please make a Premier handheld remote for the people who would like to purchase it. Cost should not be that much of a factor, considering we pay almost $2000 for a new engines. This is a time that MTH can shine.
I doubt it. The WIU and app is the future going forward.
And it's not like the APP is the end-all & be-all.
MTH can still elect to build a physical remote that would operate via the WIU or TIU (current TIUs are still sole with the 900MHz transceiver).
The app can also be easily upgraded with a cheap API to allow add-on gaming controllers to interface an control functions & features. now you would attach you tablet or phone to a handled controller that gives you the physical buttons you want.
Oh I agree. I find the app very user friendly but miss the physical buttons for whistle/horn/direction as those are easy to find with muscle memory. Using an existing physical universal controller would save the cost of developing a proprietary remote but also give those who want physical buttons something they can use.
Bryant Dunivan 111417 posted:Lou1985 posted:Bryant Dunivan 111417 posted:I forgot the 800 pound gorilla in the room. Mike, please make a Premier handheld remote for the people who would like to purchase it. Cost should not be that much of a factor, considering we pay almost $2000 for a new engines. This is a time that MTH can shine.
I doubt it. The WIU and app is the future going forward.
I agree, they won't change. I hope my eyesight and my fingers do not degrade in the future. I would hope that one does not outgrow this hobby. If eyes or dexterity is a problem for someone, this would be a bigger problem. We arent getting any younger.
What about a bad case of Parkinson's disease or Arthritis:
There is an older member in our train club that has Parkinson's and operating the (DCS & Legacy) remotes with there tiny buttons is extremely difficult, let alone holding them like we do. The app with larger buttons ( on a 11 inch tablet) and the use of a weighted stylus has been much easier for him to use. Before the apps, he was limited to conventional operation only.
If existing tooling then how about a solid blue Santa Fe FT set?
I wouldn't mind seeing some more Minneapolis & St. Louis motive power. I think 2002 was last and only time MTH has done something in that name.
LoganUP1982 posted:
Can’t wait for both Lionel and MTH to make a tier IV GEVO
For those of you who are curious about the hoops that are needed to be jumped through to do the ACS-64 go to the Bachmann booth at York and speak to Larry Harrington about what he went through to get the HO version done.....
Matching passenger set for the BNSF GS4. I'd get that engine in a heartbeat if cars were made for it. I like the idea of it being probably a longer set then the original DAP set was.
Bill
Since MTH has already re-run a few of the NS Heritage units in Premier, I'd like to see a re-issue of the NS 1065 Savannah & Atlanta Heritage unit (20-20275-1 in 2013 v2) and this time, getting the broad white stripe in the correct size and location as well as painting the lettering in Dulux Gold. The S&A tuxedo is a great scheme, but unfortunately was not done well in MTH Premier during the 2013 NS Heritage run. Interestingly, the HO and RailKing versions were painted closer to prototype.
Bryan
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HO and RailKing for comparison
SUPERLINERS - I want some Santa Fe Superliners.
Paul
Railrunnin posted:SUPERLINERS - I want some Santa Fe Superliners.
Paul
Only if they were scale and easily converted to two-rail.
Rusty Traque posted:david1 posted:If I were Lionel or MTH I would tell Siemens to go pound sand until they become more reasonable.
Dave
It's their license, they can charge what they want and set whatever conditions. Siemens is an approximate 93 billion dollar world-wide company.
Lionel, MTH and/or the model railroad community are just grains of that sand.
Rusty
Yes it is their license and they can charge what they want but I would still tell them to pound sand. Siemens is just taking advantage of thier size.
Besides the engine is not that cool anyway.
Dave
If the tier 4 engine is produced, please do the Union Pacific road name with the road number 2698, as I got the privilege to ride in it for a couple of hours in Houston. The engineer taught me how to drive it and how to lash up the engines together on the computer system, and it was so cool. My little brothers were not a thrilled as I was because they did not get to ride in the cab as it was too crowded. The engineers were so nice and I would love to buy this engine so I can always remember that great experience I had, as well as control the same engine once again, but just in a smaller version.
lol
Northern Pacific Yard Slugs
GRAND TRUNK WESTERN 1776 GP38-2 diesel-electric locomotive
GRAND TRUNK WESTERN 50' AIRSLIDE covered hoppers
all 7 road numbers
Illinois Central Gulf 48' trailers in the final graphics on TRAILER TRAIN flat cars
ICGZ reporting marks
Andrew
falconservice posted:GRAND TRUNK WESTERN 1776 GP38-2 diesel-electric locomotive
I would definitely be in for that! They have had bicentennial units in the last few catalogs so it is possible.
Premier Waffle side 50' box car in the CNW "Safety Yellow" 1980's paint scheme.
Premier 40' Trailers with the correct Chicago & North Western Falcon Service graphics
Andrew
Falcon Service
Premier C&O Chessie System waffle side 50' box car
Andrew
I'd like to see them do a Premier NS GP60 standard cab or Premier RS-3m in Lehigh Valley.
Looks like they had the 48' CNW Falcon service TOFC back in '08
https://mthtrains.com/20-98632
I thought I had seen it somewhere!
Engineer-Joe posted:
Looks like they had the 48' CNW Falcon service TOFC back in '08
https://mthtrains.com/20-98632
I thought I had seen it somewhere!
I bought that, and there was a HUGE graphic error, plus the markings were not what was shown in the catalog, and the ACTUAL TRAILER length was only 40' long.
They have 40' trailers, can they please put the right graphics on the right trailer.
Andrew
I would like to see more Premier steam engines with whistle steam! Especially Reading and PRR.
Matt
yankspride4 posted:Matt_GNo27 posted:yankspride4 posted:As it was explained to my by a Lionel rep, the license fees that would be charged by Siemens would likely prohibit an O gauge manufacturer from producing the ACS-64 (just not enough volume to make it a good business decision).
In addition, they would try to prohibit the manufacturer from producing "fantasy" schemes in order to sell more units as O gauge makers tend to do. I doubt we'll see the ACS-64 from MTH or Lionel anytime soon.
Ron, you might be right about license fees being prohibitively high, but would they definitely charge them? Did GE charge them for the Genesis?
It would surprise me if a prohibition on fantasy schemes would be a deal-killer. I'm not aware of there being fantasy schemes for the Genesis or the Acela.
I was told that Siemens would absolutely charge Lionel...I can only assume it would be the same for MTH.
In addition to the license fees, Siemens said the would require 60 or so units to go the Corporate HQ so they could be used as gifts, etc. Given the relatively small numbers produced and sold in O as compared to HO, that is a pretty big nut.
This info is over a year old, so things may have changed.
MTH is definitely less prone to making fantasy schemes on Premier products (which I would think the ACS-64 would fall under), so it might not be a deal killer for them. Lionel on the other hand is much more apt to want to make fantasy schemes on full size scale locos.
Not sure on GE.
Isn’t MTH making the new Siemens loco in NJT livery already?
PENN CENTRAL!!!...……………..A Premier set of aba E-8's and a railking RS-1
Still waiting to see Western Maryland Scenic Railroad 501 & 502.
The MTH Premier GP30 diesel locos will have to be made in SOO LINE this time.
Andrew
I would like to see a premier Western Maryland Potomac (4-8-4), matching cabeese , prefer cab numbers 1863 and 1901, and another set of fishbelly hopper cars.
Winchester and Western GP9 or GP38-2 would be new to see in O-gauge. A short-line native to Virginia and New Jersey that connects to NS and CSX. Winchester & Western RR
Photos credit to Winchester & Western site gallery
Richie C. posted:D500 posted:SD60M posted:Atlantic Coast Line/Seaboard Coast Line GP7 in the black and yellow paint scheme. We all did not eperience the purple units.
Atlantic Coast Line ore car set...as shown.
I know...I am dreaming.
How about this...6-car set would be nice...but, I think Lionel owns the old Weaver molds.
Well, I did not experience the ACL/SAL/SCL at all, directly. There was Seaboard in Alabama, but not on the Gulf Coast. But - one of my favorite diesel schemes is the ACL/SCL black/yellow, especially on the E6. I like the scheme so much that I painted/decaled an old, short MPC "U-30-something" to emulate one of the actual SCL U18 "Baby Boats". It is a surprisingly close match with the U18. (Ignore the pilot gap, please.) Lowering the fuel tank really helped with the looks.
So, yes, something with this scheme (especially the E6, and especially ACL) would make me notice.
Purple? I don't like the color in general, especially on locomotives and muscle cars.
OOPS !
Yeah - that's the purple one that I don't like. My 2014 Challenger is silver.
Now, if someone wanted a fantasy ACL 4-6-6-4 Challenger in purple (w/white domes?)....maybe Lionel would be more up for it than MTH. After all, they "gave" us Daylight AC-9's.
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