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The other day I was looking at the Lionel website and when I clicked on the Lionel Club link, instead of seeing the familar LRRC page with info about the club and the products for sale, it now says Lionel Collector's Club of America with a letter to LRRC members from Howard Hitchcock, president of Lionel and a little bit of info about the LCCA with a link to join the club.

 

The letter has information about the benefits of the LCCA and information about the transition from to the LCCA for LRRC members. It kind of struck me as a "handing over the reins to the LCCA" letter.

 

It looks pretty straightforward, but what caught my interest is what it doesn't mention. The letter makes no mention of the benefits we enjoyed as members of the LRRC. For those of you who have been following the LCCA/LRRC merger, the initial statement about the merger posted on the Lionel website dated 7/25/14 included the following statement:

 

"This “joining of forces” means that current LRRC members will not only maintain the benefits they have now, but also gain additional benefits that will make their club experience even better."

 

Although it is no longer posted on the Lionel website, on the old LRRC page there were 4 benefits listed for members of the LRRC:

 

1) free Lionel catalogs

2) Inside Track magazine

3) opportunity to purchase club exclusive items

4) 10% discount in Lionel store

 

Although the benefits weren't mentioned in the letter, it can be discerned that a couple of the benefits are going to continue as a result of the merger. The catalogs are going to be a benefit because LCCA members also receive Lionel catalogs as a benefit. The small ad for the LCCA below the letter lists "10% discount on www.lionelstore.com purchases." So, it appears Lionel is going to offer what used to be only a benefit to LRRC members to all LCCA members. As I'm sure someone might mention, the prices in the Lionel store tend to be list price, so people can generally find better deals if they shop around. But, it is a benefit.

 

That leaves the Inside Track magazine and the LRRC club exclusive products.

 

I expected the Inside Track magazine to disappear as a separate entity, but I was wondering what might happen to the content that we received in the magazine? It was only a few pages, but it presented info from Lionel's viewpoint and also had some interesting history articles on some of the upcoming Lionel products. The Lion Roars magazine by the LCCA is a very good publication, but it has a club member/hobbyist perspective with articles written by club members and just a little bit of Lionel manufacturer info. Is some of the manufacturer information that was in the Inside Track magazine going to find it's way into the Lion Roars magazine? This hasn't been addressed by either Lionel or the LCCA, but I'm guessing the answer is no. It's not a huge loss, but there was some interesting information in the articles.

 

The opportunity to purchase LRRC club exclusive items is probably the main reason most people belonged to the LRRC. Maybe Mr. Hitchcock is saving the topic for another day, or maybe the LCCA is going to make an announcement at a later date, but I found it disappointing that he didn't address the matter in the letter on the website.

 

I did notice a slight difference in wording in different sections of the webpage. In the letter from Mr. Hitchcock, one of the LCCA benefits listed is: "Access to club exclusive product." In the ad below the letter (in the section where the 10% Lionelstore.com discount is listed), it says: "Access to Lionel club exclusive product". That may mean nothing or it may differentiate between the product offered by the LCCA and the product previously by Lionel through the LRRC.

 

Is Lionel going to continue producing the type of product that was offered through the LRRC, only now it is going to be available for purchase through the LCCA? My main reason for belonging to the LRRC was to purchase the annual Christmas boxcars. Judging from posts on the OGR forum, many club members liked the various postwar style rolling stock offered by the club. The LCCA produces well received product for it's members, but the products tend to have a different emphasis. For those of you who remember when Emeril Lagasse had a few cooking shows on TV, he was always looking to "Bam!" and "Kick it up a notch!" on his recipes to make the food more special. The LCCA often seems to have a similar philosophy to incorporate unique or innovative elements on their products. Some of the products are also geared to the region where the LCCA convention is being held, so depending on the region, it may or may not interest club members. The LRRC products tend to be more general interest and easier on the pocket book. It would be interesting to hear from Lionel/LCCA about the future of LRRC type products as it could influence whether or not current LRRC members continue as LCCA members.

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"The $20. I paid to LRRC has been wasted."

 

Not sure why you would believe that.  I expect you'll get a credit in that amount toward the LCCA membership so you'll extend your LCCA membership if you have one, or receive the LCCA membership in lieu of your LRRC membership for the remainder of your time.

 

I'd be surprised if Lionel doesn't provide some content for The Lion Roars.  They want to communicate with the consumer, but they don't want to run the club that oversees the communication involving publications, annual events, special events and special run products.  Doesn't seem all that threatening to me as someone who has belonged to LCCA for some time and to LRRC at various time points in the last two decades.

 

Lionel is the only vendor that has had annual open houses at their service facility or sales facility, including discounts on merchandise.  They regularly attend LCCA meetings, LOTS meetings and TCA meets at York.  To me that's not a company that is avoiding contact with the public.

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Originally Posted by bigdodgetrain:

instead of coming here and blasting the merger maybe you should listen to the horses mouth.

 

lcca/lrrc merger

I'm not sure if you are commenting on my post or Grampstrains post.

 

I watched the video when Al. K posted it on Friday. It appears the video was taken during the LCCA convention back in late July. It doesn't present any new information that wasn't discussed on the forum around that time. It normally takes the LCCA a while to post videos on their site (they are a volunteer organization). It's good information, but nothing new.

 

In the video, Mr. Hitchcock says "...we can extend and expand benefits that LRRC members have to the LCCA members which increases that benefit package..."

 

My post concerns a letter posted on the Lionel website in the last few days. It talks about LCCA benefits that are now going to be available to LRRC members as a result of the merger. There is no mention of continuing LRRC benefits. I'd suggest you read the letter and then reread my post.


Today, 9-1-14 all Lionel Railroader Club members (LRRC) become Lionel Collectors Club of America (LCCA) members. Welcome to the LCCA!   On behalf of LCCA club  President Dennis DeVito, the entire volunteer Board of Directors and Officers, and all of the current LCCA members we extend our sincere welcome all of you.  This is your club now and we invite you to participate and be involved to the level you enjoy the most.  Most of all, we want you to have FUN!  We all share a passion and interest in Lionel toy trains and this great hobby.    We wish you all a lifetime of happiness operating and collecting Lionel trains!  If you have any questions, concerns or just want to talk about toy trains, please contact me at agkolis@comcast.net or 248 709-4137. 
 
Below is a welcome note from LCCA President Dennis DeVito.  
 
We also wish everyone a safe and happy Labor Day! Please be safe and enjoy this national holiday.

Al Kolis
President-Elect & Special Events Manager
Lionel Collectors Club of America
Agkolis@comcast.net
248 709-4137
 

 

 

As a new LCCA memberWelcome to the Lionel Collectors Club of America!

 

For those of you not familiar with the LCCA, we are a not-for-profit, volunteer organization with thousands of men, women and children sharing an interest in Lionel trains. Founded in 1970 by Jim Gates of Perry IA, LCCA members live all around the world, but predominantly in the United States. The purpose of the club is to promote and foster an interest in Lionel trains specifically and toy trains in general and have fun while doing it.  

 

This is our 45th Anniversary year and we welcome you to the yearlong celebration.  We will be announcing Special Events, New Products and a series of activities to celebrate.  Our club is proud of its communications with members - you will always know what is going on by checking in our publications.  If you use the web, we encourage you to share your e-mail address and check our web site www.lionelcollectors.orgfrequently.  It is always up to date with the latest club news and events.  Be on the lookout for e-blasts.

 

You will find there are many reasons to belong to the Lionel Collectors Club of America, and numerous member benefits, whether a Regular Member (RM), an Electronic Member (EM)  or a Junior Member (JM) for those under 18.   

 

Additional information is always available on our website (www.lionelcollectors.org).  More details about the club, the numerousbenefits you will be receiving and the options available for you will be mailed to you in the October issue of our award winning publication 'The Lion Roars'.  We encourage you to get familiar with LCCA activities and upcoming events by visiting our website and our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/Lione...lectorsClubofAmerica Or for Our Junior Members https://www.facebook.com/Lione...iorMemberPage?ref=hl

 

If you have questions or concerns, you can contact our business office at LCCA Business Office, PO box 529, Peru IL 613544 or office@lionelcollectors.org.  We welcome you and invite you to attend and participate in our club activities.  

 

No matter what level of involvement you choose, we are pleased you are now part of the LCCA and know you find the club worthy of the phrase "The Best Toy Train Club on Planet!".   WELCOME ALL LRRC Members from the LCCA Board of Directors, Officers, Appointed Officials and the entire LCCA family!

 

Sincerely,

 

Dennis DeVito  RM 6758

LCCA President and Fellow Member

dennisdevito@comcast.net

 
Originally Posted by Al K.:
... More details about the club, the numerous benefits you will be receiving and the options available for you will be mailed to you in the October issue of our award winning publication 'The Lion Roars'.  ...
  

Al K., thanks for posting the letter from Dennis DeVito. I've been a member of both the LRRC and the LCCA for a few years. I'm looking forward to receiving the October issue of "The Lion Roars" to see if it has any more info on club benefits as a result of the merger than what Mr. Hitchcock discussed in his letter on the Lionel web site.

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