56, and run TMCC / Legacy.
45 , dcs and legacy
OGR Webmaster posted:GregR posted:Forgive me if someone has already asked, but doesn't HOOP.LA have the ability to provide a survey/poll feature where members can set up a multiple-choice survey, and have the results posted on a nice bar chart graphic? I've seen this type of feature on other forums, and it's a lot of fun to see trends on a lot of topics.
Painstakingly tabulating the results from almost 200 scattered, anecdotal posts, is admirable, but seems like a lot of work.
Yes, it does, but this thread was not started as a Survey, so it doesn't show up with any graphs.
If you want to start this all over again in a real survey where we can see the results, CLICK HERE.
Seems like this survey should also have categories for LionChief, Lionchief+/FlyerChief, and also a separate one for Bluetooth, since there are aftermarket Bluetooth boards being used and discussed on this forum. Also, is a DC Power pack considered the same as conventional (which I take to mean AC) for the purposes of this survey (I run my S scale on DC using polarity reversing)?
Bill in FtL
72 dcs & tmcc
Also, we have many forum members under the age of 20-years old, but no age category for those to check...
Dan Padova posted:What I am starting to see is that more people my age are running some sort of high tech system than I thought.
Perhaps it's a similar situation as to why you see mostly older individuals riding Harley's. They're more expensive to own, operate, and maintain than a generic motorcycle. So why is it? Older individuals have more disposable income.
74 for seven more days. DCS, conventional using DCS remote variable channels.
Deuce posted:Dan Padova posted:What I am starting to see is that more people my age are running some sort of high tech system than I thought.
Perhaps it's a similar situation as to why you see mostly older individuals riding Harley's. They're more expensive to own, operate, and maintain than a generic motorcycle. So why is it? Older individuals have more disposable income.
Deuce, Actually I earn less now than a few years ago, but with the kids grown and on their own, we have less expenses. I'm buying trains now before I retire full time!
I am 87 and I have a lot of control.
27 Conventional
69 and I use both DCS and conventional. Actually I mostly run my conventional through the DCS. Sometimes just on an old ZW on a loop that's just wired for that. A little bit of TMCC, but sometimes TMCC through my DCS.
All of the electronics worry me about their time-line durability, but then again my time-line durability might be shorter than theirs.
Alan
OGR Webmaster posted:GregR posted:Forgive me if someone has already asked, but doesn't HOOP.LA have the ability to provide a survey/poll feature where members can set up a multiple-choice survey, and have the results posted on a nice bar chart graphic? I've seen this type of feature on other forums, and it's a lot of fun to see trends on a lot of topics.
Painstakingly tabulating the results from almost 200 scattered, anecdotal posts, is admirable, but seems like a lot of work.
Yes, it does, but this thread was not started as a Survey, so it doesn't show up with any graphs.
If you want to start this all over again in a real survey where we can see the results, CLICK HERE.
I went and took the survey, but it only shows how many people voted for each category.
MELGAR had the right idea earlier when he correlated respondents' ages with the various operating environments they use. The interesting questions are "What percentage of conventional operators are younger than X?" or "What percentage of operators in their 70s use wifi?"
As it stands now, all we know is that N% of the people who filled out the survey are in a given age group -- OR -- that N% of the people who filled out the survey use TMCC.
Maybe I was trying to draw inferences where there aren't any, but we're still not quite there. It's too bad because people seem to be really interested in the thread.
Steven J. Serenska
Bill Nielsen posted:Seems like this survey should also have categories for LionChief, Lionchief+/FlyerChief, and also a separate one for Bluetooth, since there are aftermarket Bluetooth boards being used and discussed on this forum.
Added. Thanks, Bill.
What I find surprising is the number of younger members who use conventional control. I would have thought that that demographic would all be using wifi etc.
Bill Nielsen posted:OGR Webmaster posted:GregR posted:Forgive me if someone has already asked, but doesn't HOOP.LA have the ability to provide a survey/poll feature where members can set up a multiple-choice survey, and have the results posted on a nice bar chart graphic? I've seen this type of feature on other forums, and it's a lot of fun to see trends on a lot of topics.
Painstakingly tabulating the results from almost 200 scattered, anecdotal posts, is admirable, but seems like a lot of work.
Yes, it does, but this thread was not started as a Survey, so it doesn't show up with any graphs.
If you want to start this all over again in a real survey where we can see the results, CLICK HERE.
Seems like this survey should also have categories for LionChief, Lionchief+/FlyerChief, and also a separate one for Bluetooth, since there are aftermarket Bluetooth boards being used and discussed on this forum. Also, is a DC Power pack considered the same as conventional (which I take to mean AC) for the purposes of this survey (I run my S scale on DC using polarity reversing)?
Bill in FtL
When I started this survey I chose to simply lump all electronic control methods into one category. I figured that there are two ways to run trains, battery power not included. Either conventional or some form of DCC, TMCC or whatever you want to refer to it as.
As for the graph, MELGAR was kind enough to say that he would create a graph when enough info was gathered. His post is on page two.
"MELGAR posted:
If we get a meaningful number of responses, I will prepare a graph of the results.
MELGAR"
I'm 49 and I currently use mind control.
Mind control because my layout is stored in the shed and I imagine what it be like with it up and running again. 
Seriously, I run mostly conventional for simplicity, but have used DCS and TMCC. My next personal layout will be DCC though I'm considering just straight DC (conventional).
OGR Webmaster posted:GregR posted:Forgive me if someone has already asked, but doesn't HOOP.LA have the ability to provide a survey/poll feature where members can set up a multiple-choice survey, and have the results posted on a nice bar chart graphic? I've seen this type of feature on other forums, and it's a lot of fun to see trends on a lot of topics.
Painstakingly tabulating the results from almost 200 scattered, anecdotal posts, is admirable, but seems like a lot of work.
Yes, it does, but this thread was not started as a Survey, so it doesn't show up with any graphs.
If you want to start this all over again in a real survey where we can see the results, CLICK HERE.
Thanks! That's great. I didn't know we had this capability here on the OGR site. I don't see a link to "surveys" on the home page.
66 Strictly conventional using two ZW's with rectifier and circuit breaker upgrades. Have gone to electronic eunits, electronic whistle/horns, rail sounds, sound boards, solid state signal control/IR sensors and smoke added.
I completed the survey——
Carl J
Dan Padova posted:Bill Nielsen posted:OGR Webmaster posted:GregR posted:Forgive me if someone has already asked, but doesn't HOOP.LA have the ability to provide a survey/poll feature where members can set up a multiple-choice survey, and have the results posted on a nice bar chart graphic? I've seen this type of feature on other forums, and it's a lot of fun to see trends on a lot of topics.
Painstakingly tabulating the results from almost 200 scattered, anecdotal posts, is admirable, but seems like a lot of work.
Yes, it does, but this thread was not started as a Survey, so it doesn't show up with any graphs.
If you want to start this all over again in a real survey where we can see the results, CLICK HERE.
Seems like this survey should also have categories for LionChief, Lionchief+/FlyerChief, and also a separate one for Bluetooth, since there are aftermarket Bluetooth boards being used and discussed on this forum. Also, is a DC Power pack considered the same as conventional (which I take to mean AC) for the purposes of this survey (I run my S scale on DC using polarity reversing)?
Bill in FtL
When I started this survey I chose to simply lump all electronic control methods into one category. I figured that there are two ways to run trains, battery power not included. Either conventional or some form of DCC, TMCC or whatever you want to refer to it as.
As for the graph, MELGAR was kind enough to say that he would create a graph when enough info was gathered. His post is on page two.
"MELGAR posted:If we get a meaningful number of responses, I will prepare a graph of the results.
MELGAR"
Yes, Dan, I agree, conventional versus command is really the poll I was interested in.
I completed the survey!!! Age 46 use TMCC ,DCS and Conventional!!!!
I'm 62.
Layout is wired in blocks, conventional style. Power is a couple 180 watt bricks through Legacy Powermasters set to conventional mode. I run Legacy, TMCC and conventional engines but always through a Cab-1L/Base-1L. No conventional transformers in the place. Oh yes, there are a couple LC+ locos too.
60 Legacy Cab-2, TMCC Cab1-L and conventional.
56, TMCC and Lionchief now, with plans for computer control via C/MRI & JMRI, WiFi with JMRI, and I just ordered a bunch of the new Bluetooth engines.
No conventional.
No DCS
69, DC, dabbling in DCC. 2 railer.
Dick
Big_Boy_4005 posted:56, TMCC and Lionchief now, with plans for computer control via C/MRI & JMRI, WiFi with JMRI, and I just ordered a bunch of the new Bluetooth engines.
No conventional.
No DCS
I know we went to school together at Blake, but never knew you were that much younger....No wonder you have no memory of Al Franken ...
Mark Boyce posted:Dan Padova posted:Bill Nielsen posted:OGR Webmaster posted:GregR posted:Forgive me if someone has already asked, but doesn't HOOP.LA have the ability to provide a survey/poll feature where members can set up a multiple-choice survey, and have the results posted on a nice bar chart graphic? I've seen this type of feature on other forums, and it's a lot of fun to see trends on a lot of topics.
Painstakingly tabulating the results from almost 200 scattered, anecdotal posts, is admirable, but seems like a lot of work.
Yes, it does, but this thread was not started as a Survey, so it doesn't show up with any graphs.
If you want to start this all over again in a real survey where we can see the results, CLICK HERE.
Seems like this survey should also have categories for LionChief, Lionchief+/FlyerChief, and also a separate one for Bluetooth, since there are aftermarket Bluetooth boards being used and discussed on this forum. Also, is a DC Power pack considered the same as conventional (which I take to mean AC) for the purposes of this survey (I run my S scale on DC using polarity reversing)?
Bill in FtL
When I started this survey I chose to simply lump all electronic control methods into one category. I figured that there are two ways to run trains, battery power not included. Either conventional or some form of DCC, TMCC or whatever you want to refer to it as.
As for the graph, MELGAR was kind enough to say that he would create a graph when enough info was gathered. His post is on page two.
"MELGAR posted:If we get a meaningful number of responses, I will prepare a graph of the results.
MELGAR"
Yes, Dan, I agree, conventional versus command is really the poll I was interested in.
It's nice to see the breakdown by command type however.
Conventional Cab Control, I'm 74 Layout is wired in blocks like the HO guys do. Two ZW's
56 tmcc dcs and conventional
71 with no controls.
I'm going to take part in both (here & hoopla ) because I see them as being slightly different.
I think this ones wording may allow more flexibility and draw of info providing the answers are in depth and hit the points. I think many, even in depth are lacking the initial thought though...
I believe the question may be more about preferences in use, or to purchase, not neccessarly what you own. ( O.P., Is that right Dan?)
Some folks have all the bells and whistles, but are not necessarily using them. Others may never have tried sound or any form of command. Where do they fall?
54 Lunar Cycles under the Asian Purple Star charts (
) Conventional runner by choice. (there is a free unused dcs & tmcc waiting for years if I would just choose to take them home)
I have tried out 4 systems of command dcc, dcs, tmcc, & radio. I don't want to use one daily. There are times I wouldn't mind it, but don't really "need it" because my hobbying is first most about simple fun and having a creative outlet. That command means one less loco... at least . The tech chase can/would undermine that at times for me. Too much like old jobs to be super fun; I need the simplicity far more to relax and be happy.
I do own some command engines. More with just sound generation; but use them all sparingly and they wouldn't be sorely missed. (except for that whistle..... and I do use the bells (softly) more often the whistle lately, but I have no desire to put even those sounds in a xxxxT tender(t=no whistle), my silent GG-1, or silent diesels. After about 20min, the sounds are killed, but the session may last another hour or two easy. I like the old air whistles best, no matter the sound quality of a board or realism. I also prefer the warmth of analog sound reproduction over 32bit digital CDs, mp3 is a joke. At 64bit I can't really complain though.
A final note, I am a person with high functioning Autism. You likely wouldn't know unless I told you; just a "little" "weird", not "dumb". Unlike many "Aspie's", sounds are not often unbearable to me, especially mechanical rythms, which I usually find very soothing at any volume when consistant. ("it's your #4 intake still clicking at 3500rpm; lash it" ) Maybe that is why it isn't that appealing to me, the sounds do mask what is happening with the real mechanicals.... just a thought that it might be relevant somehow, and I just don't see it.... yet.
JD2035RR posted:I wonder how different the results would be if the survey were conducted in December, in order to gather the annual/Christmas only train people's age and control preference.
At the end of February, I suspect that it is mostly diehards that frequent the forum, and thus are more likely to run a more sophisticated system.
Doubt a significant number of Christmas only operators even know this website exists.
What, me worry?
60 (and still purely sexaayyy)
DCS - handheld remote and Wifi
TMCC / Legacy - Cab-2 remote and Wifi
Conventional for older Williams only and occasionally Post War when I remove them from display
And I operate this way all the time, even during Christmas.
70 - conventional only. DC American Flyer
55 TMCC/LEGACY with future LCS wifi.
Doug
AmeenTrainGuy posted:I just set up a google form, anyone who would like to take the "survey" can go ahead and do it at this link:
Great idea Ameen. It is better than tally ing everything by hand. I bet the forum has a poll feature that isn't turned on too.
Deuce posted:Mark Boyce posted:Dan Padova posted:Bill Nielsen posted:OGR Webmaster posted:GregR posted:Forgive me if someone has already asked, but doesn't HOOP.LA have the ability to provide a survey/poll feature where members can set up a multiple-choice survey, and have the results posted on a nice bar chart graphic? I've seen this type of feature on other forums, and it's a lot of fun to see trends on a lot of topics.
Painstakingly tabulating the results from almost 200 scattered, anecdotal posts, is admirable, but seems like a lot of work.
Yes, it does, but this thread was not started as a Survey, so it doesn't show up with any graphs.
If you want to start this all over again in a real survey where we can see the results, CLICK HERE.
Seems like this survey should also have categories for LionChief, Lionchief+/FlyerChief, and also a separate one for Bluetooth, since there are aftermarket Bluetooth boards being used and discussed on this forum. Also, is a DC Power pack considered the same as conventional (which I take to mean AC) for the purposes of this survey (I run my S scale on DC using polarity reversing)?
Bill in FtL
When I started this survey I chose to simply lump all electronic control methods into one category. I figured that there are two ways to run trains, battery power not included. Either conventional or some form of DCC, TMCC or whatever you want to refer to it as.
As for the graph, MELGAR was kind enough to say that he would create a graph when enough info was gathered. His post is on page two.
"MELGAR posted:If we get a meaningful number of responses, I will prepare a graph of the results.
MELGAR"
Yes, Dan, I agree, conventional versus command is really the poll I was interested in.
It's nice to see the breakdown by command type however.
Both have value, it is true.
53, tmcc, dcs, conventional..............
Barry
56 DCS
Mill City posted:Big_Boy_4005 posted:56, TMCC and Lionchief now, with plans for computer control via C/MRI & JMRI, WiFi with JMRI, and I just ordered a bunch of the new Bluetooth engines.
No conventional.
No DCS
I know we went to school together at Blake, but never knew you were that much younger....No wonder you have no memory of Al Franken ...
Jon, you and I discussed that on one of your first visits. I think we concluded that I was three years behind you, hence the age difference.
