Real NKP Berkshire #757 is on the Move from Strasburg PA!!!

This NKP Berk?!

Jon

Well, here was the official statement - https://www.riamindustryheadli...d-757-is-on-the-move

Letting my unbridled enthusiasm go, it would be fantastic to have the 765 tow the 757 to Ohio! Double headed NKP Berks!

I was thinking the same thing. But the costs would kill it even if the RRs allowed it.

Apparently, she is somewhere between Enola and Altoona as of right now. Last seen in Enola around 3 PM. Two Horsehead GP units pulling her and the 783 caboose. Keep an eye out at the Horseshoe Curve Cam and on the NS PA radios via online scanners and listen for NS H27. 

She was being pulled in reverse with the caboose behind it.  

The 757 is planned to be wyed in Enola, and head west from there. (I assume it must be wyed for the spot its going in Bellevue) 

There is more than one mainline wye in Bellevue and the original NKP turntable was still in place at last count - unknown if it is still in service.

Just based off of info i heard. Not sure they wanted to wye the locomotive asap for the public to see or what. 

I assume its still rusted in place?

Kelly Anderson posted:

J 611 posted:

I assume its still rusted in place?

As far as I know.  

So to move it they would have to disconnect the linkage somehow?  Thank you in advance.

Ray Lombardo posted:

Kelly Anderson posted:

J 611 posted:

I assume its still rusted in place?

As far as I know.  

So to move it they would have to disconnect the linkage somehow?  Thank you in advance.

Yes, the main rods and eccentric rods have been removed. Thus the 25 MPH speed restriction, as the drivers are now "out of balance" with the main rod on each side removed.

Hey Tom, Jr:  I take it that she'll have to pass through CLE at some point.  Will you be chasing this at all, on either the East or West Side?

If so, let me know and I may join you....if you don't mind.

Thanks!

Bobby Ogage posted:

Letting my unbridled enthusiasm go, it would be fantastic to have the 765 tow the 757 to Ohio! Double headed NKP Berks!

It wouldn't be double headed really. It would be  a well maintained NKP 765 dragging a cold, dead, rusty, 757. 

 And ....with 765 limited to the 25mph speed limit because of 757......... it would be even less "fantastic".

Not nearly as fantastic as an actual double head with 2 talking stacks.

I'm pretty sure that PM 1225 and NKP 765 doubled headed a few years back on a fall outing in MI or WI, IIRC.  (I'm backed up at work otherwise I'd provide better info.)

RickO posted:

Bobby Ogage posted:

Letting my unbridled enthusiasm go, it would be fantastic to have the 765 tow the 757 to Ohio! Double headed NKP Berks!

It wouldn't be double headed really. It would be  a well maintained NKP 765 dragging a cold, dead, rusty, 757. 

 And ....with 765 limited to the 25mph speed limit because of 757......... it would be even less "fantastic".

Not nearly as fantastic as an actual double head with 2 talking stacks.

Pere Marquette 1225 and NKP 765 have certainly looked and sounded great together.  Hope that happens again sometime soon!

Is there a published schedule I would love to see it on the Horse Shoe Curve live camera ? 

the website or page of the Bellevue group mentions keeping the move quiet/secret for security/safety reasons....or whatever you want to call it.

ergo, i'm hitting Tom Jr up for some info. 

rpmcobra posted:

Is there a published schedule I would love to see it on the Horse Shoe Curve live camera ? 

To answer your question, no.  This is mentioned in some of the links.  Public safety concerns, among other things, were sighted for the lack of a schedule.

Steve

RideTheRails posted:

rpmcobra posted:

Is there a published schedule I would love to see it on the Horse Shoe Curve live camera ? 

To answer your question, no.  This is mentioned in some of the links.  Public safety concerns, among other things, were sighted for the lack of a schedule.

Steve

Thank you

As to routing, an Ohio contact is guessing west out of Alliance on the old PRR to Bucyrus and then north to Bellevue again on the old PRR.  This keeps it off the high density C&P and NYC lakefront.  Was told 765 had moved that way before.

Currently as of 4 o’clock, it is still sitting in the yard in Enola. I did not get out to try to get any pictures, it is a nasty day here in Pennsylvania. Right now it is sitting north of the service facility.

NHVRYGray posted:

As to routing, an Ohio contact is guessing west out of Alliance on the old PRR to Bucyrus and then north to Bellevue again on the old PRR.  This keeps it off the high density C&P and NYC lakefront.  Was told 765 had moved that way before.

That's what I'm thinking, but NS does not own the former PRR west of Crestline. They only have trackage rights. 

Another possibility from Pittsburgh would be to take the Youngstown line through Youngstown to Ashtabula and get on the former NKP mainline and take that to Bellevue.

IIRC NS owns the old PRR west to Crestline where it intersects the now CSX owned ex NYC Big Four, NS has rights over the ex PRR CSX leased (or sold?) Chicago Ft Wayne and Eastern from Crestline I think to Chicago, but definitely to Bucyrus.  Of course the only definite way to know where it is going is to see it as it could and probably is subject to change depending on numerous conditions with many route combinations.

KOOLjock1 posted:

This NKP Berk?!

Jon

I believe that is NKP #767.  She hit a Wabash passenger train at NE interlocking in New Haven Indiana on July 17th 1951.  She was repaired and returned to service, but crews said she was never quite the same after that.  The City Of Fort Wayne actually requested this engine for public display, but due to it's poor condition from sitting dead outside the East Wayne enginehouse, (which is in sight of where the wreck occurred)  765, which had been stored inside for much of that time was substituted instead.  765 was put on display as 767, and 767 went to scrap disguised as 765.

For you night owls, the train could hit Horseshoe Curve around 3 or 4a (EDIT: or maybe 5a) EST. If I make it home from work in time, I'll watch the live cam. Only passing along what I'm seeing elsewhere. David

NKP Muncie posted:

For you night owls, the train could hit Horseshoe Curve around 3 or 4a (EDIT: or maybe 5a) EST. If I make it home from work in time, I'll watch the live cam. Only passing along what I'm seeing elsewhere. David

For funnies I checked out the live webcam at 3:16 AM (2/13). To paraphrase Ollie Williams, it’s snowing sideways.

Steve

RideTheRails posted:

For funnies I checked out the live webcam at 3:16 AM (2/13). To paraphrase Ollie Williams, it’s snowing sideways.

Steve

Yeah, the snow has been coming and going. Gets heavy for a while, then nothing. I'm going to give up shortly. David

It is leaving Altoona now.

757 was on the curve camera at 6:04. Was pretty dark still. 

NKP Muncie posted:

It is leaving Altoona now.

It came into view at Horseshoe curve webcam at approx. 6:03 AM Eastern on 2/13.  It's on youtube, link is: https://youtu.be/j45InTaXwzs

Steve

Yep. She passed around Horseshoe curve nearly 30 hours ago so it should be nearing Pittsburgh. Apparently it went for a spin on the turntable at Enola yesterday

https://www.facebook.com/norfo...os/2455114234562826/ 

If people want to keep track of NKP 757, here's the Heritage Units website link - https://heritageunits.com/locomotive/detail/NKP757    

Latest update is Latrobe PA at 9:21AM.

Its official, NKP 757 with the caboose will be taking the Youngstown Line. Suppose to be tonight. Will travel along from Youngstown Ohio, up into Ashtabula, turn west onto NS Lake Erie District, travel through Geneva, Madison, Painesville, Mentor, Willoughby, Eastlake, etc and probably continue along NS Lake Erie Line through Rocky River and points west till Bellevue.

Tom:  Will you and any of your cameras be chasing the train? 

Berkshire President posted:

Tom:  Will you and any of your cameras be chasing the train? 

Tony, Ill probably be passing. With 25MPH restriction all the way to Bellevue on any route for this train and its soon into Conway PA, plus Recrew, diesel fuel for the 2 NS, its looking complete dark along Youngstown Line, meaning my guess of after 3 to 4PM in Youngstown and maybe, (being optimistic of 8 to 10PM Ashtabula).

WENT THRU PITTSBURGH PA ABOUT NOON

Corner Field Model RR Museum posted:

Berkshire President posted:

Tom:  Will you and any of your cameras be chasing the train? 

Tony, Ill probably be passing. With 25MPH restriction all the way to Bellevue on any route for this train and its soon into Conway PA, plus Recrew, diesel fuel for the 2 NS, its looking complete dark along Youngstown Line, meaning my guess of after 3 to 4PM in Youngstown and maybe, (being optimistic of 8 to 10PM Ashtabula).

Tom:  pardon my ignorance, but won't that route take the 757 over the Trestle near Riverside High School above 84?

If so, some good morning sun would make for some cool pix.........

Berkshire President posted:

Corner Field Model RR Museum posted:

Berkshire President posted:

Tom:  Will you and any of your cameras be chasing the train? 

Tony, Ill probably be passing. With 25MPH restriction all the way to Bellevue on any route for this train and its soon into Conway PA, plus Recrew, diesel fuel for the 2 NS, its looking complete dark along Youngstown Line, meaning my guess of after 3 to 4PM in Youngstown and maybe, (being optimistic of 8 to 10PM Ashtabula).

Tom:  pardon my ignorance, but won't that route take the 757 over the Trestle near Riverside High School above 84?

If so, some good morning sun would make for some cool pix.........

Tony, yes it will if it takes the Youngstown Line to get on the NS Lake Erie District.

As of around 3:10PM, 757 finally departed Conway. So now its a long treck up the Youngstown Line at 25MPH.