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Here's another. I can remember if it's a Reading or Pennsy. If Pennsy, it is, if Reading no. Our member Ray is a great custom painter/builder. He has a Camelback that he modified from a Reading Atlantic.
I have been corrected, the F units are painted in "North Penn Railroad" which was absorbed by the Reading at the turn of the century. As such it is a fictional paint scheme.
I was able to stop by the Museum on Sunday (sorry I didn't get to meet you, Francine!) and was able to talk to a couple guys there, as well as exchange phone numbers.
I'm most likely going to stop by in Lansdale this Saturday with my Black Diamond passenger set to give it a try on the outer loop!
Looks like you'll have a new member! It was fun talking Flyer and being able to put aside the ton of sad stuff in my life going on for a little while!
Hope to see you Saturday!
Congratulations Ed, we were beginning to think you were a mirage. I think you will like the group and trains are always fun.
Welcome!
Francine posted:Congratulations Ed, we were beginning to think you were a mirage. I think you will like the group and trains are always fun.
Welcome!
No, not a mirage! Just had a lot of family things all happen at once, and things to take care of after my father passed in January that have been taking more time than we thought!
As long as that Flyer loop is there, I'll have a lot to bring to run on it! I had Flyer S trains anyway, but with inheriting more, I've got quite a collection now! Can't wait to run some and share with the group, as well as people who come to see the trains run!
Francine, Great pics, thank you for sharing with us.
Ray
Hi Ed,
Welcome! hopefully the bad times are behind. i think you will like the group.
Ray,
Thank you for the kind compliments. Hugh is our video person who provides the material for me. Actually this was only a medium sized layout, I personally like the full size, as it has a yard and crossovers.
That was a nice layout you had at the museum. I stopped by on Saturday to visit the event. Very well done. Too bad you are just a little to far away for me to join your group.
Thanks for stopping by, I would have liked meeting you. I was running a K5 with freight upgraded to DCC. Although we did shifts to give everyone a chance to run, and visit the museum, which I highly recommend.
Francine posted:I have been corrected, the F units are painted in "North Penn Railroad" which was absorbed by the Reading at the turn of the century. As such it is a fictional paint scheme.
Fyi....as far as I'm aware the North Pennsylvania Railroad was never referred to as the 'North Penn' Railroad and from the pictures I've seen the engines appear to be all black - I've never seen a color pic of any piece of equipment.
If you are from the area like myself and have a general interest in the railroad history of the area I can recommend two sources:
The Lansdale Historical Society put out a small booklet on the history of the North Pennsylvania RR - they may still have copies for sale - was only a few dollars.
History of the North Pennsylvania Railroad by Jay V Hare - this was written in 1944 and you can sometimes find originals on eBay anywhere from $20 - $50. I'm not sure if any publisher has transferred the text to a more modern format.
If you are a hardcore historian as of 2000 or so, the Hagley Museum had all the corporate records and you could make arrangements to view. Here's a synopsis from that time period:
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[Description and dates], Box/folder number, North Pennsylvania Railroad Company records (Accession 1999), Hagley Museum and Library, Wilmington, DE 19807
The Philadelphia, Easton and Water-Gap Railroad Company was incorporated in Pennsylvania on April 6, 1852, and renamed the North Pennsylvania Railroad Company on October 3, 1853.
The company's object was to link Philadelphia with northeastern Pennsylvania and central and western New York, but it was only able to construct a line as far as Bethlehem (1853-1857) with a branch to Doylestown (1856), relying on connections with the Lehigh Valley Railroad at Bethlehem. As it occupied a minor traffic corridor, the North Penn was a relatively weak road until 1874, when it built a branch from Jenkintown to the Delaware River at Yardley which became a link in a second route between New York and Philadelphia. The so-called "New Line" opened on May 1, 1876, in time for traffic to the Centennial.
The New Line made the North Penn a more attractive property. The Philadelphia & Reading Railroad Company negotiated a long term lease on May 14, 1879, and the road was thereafter operated as part of the Reading system. This situtation lasted until the Reading entered bankruptcy in 1971. After several failed attempts to reorganize, the viable portions of the Reading lines were conveyed to Conrail on April 1, 1976. The North Penn then began selling off its remaining real estate and was finally liquidated between 1982 and 1990.
The records of the North Pennsylvania Railroad Company consist of basic corporate records such as minute books, annual reports, account books and statements. They give a good overview of the company's planning, construction and operation down to the Reading lease of 1879, the dull middle period when the firm was a passive lessor (1879-1971), and the complex negotiations connected with the bankruptcy and conveyance to Conrail (1971-1981).
Among the more interesting series are the board papers, which consist of inbound letters and reports directed to the president and board. They include notes on earnings and finances, committee reports, reports of surveys and construction, lists of officers and petitions from patrons. There are many letters from Tom Scott and A.J. Cassatt of the Pennsylvania Railroad regarding arrangements for direct service to the Centennial and use of the New Line. A circular includes a map of the Centennial grounds showing the temporary tracks used to deliver exhibits and construction materials.
The reorganization papers document the company's attempts to find a solvent merger partner, the plan for a Middle Atlantic Rail Corp. (MARC), disputes with SEPTA over the commuter service and subsidy, and the valuation of property conveyed to Conrail.
There are center-line maps of the entire railroad, and track and property maps of most important points. There are also profiles of all the bridges over the Delaware River between Easton and Taylorsville (1875) and of the company's own bridge at Yardley.
Records of other companies include a copy of the charter of the Kensington and Oxford Turnpike Road Company (1836) and records of the associated East Trenton and Delaware & Bound Brook Railroad companies. The latter includes a small selection of president's inbound letters and notices (1878) and a short history of the 1875 Hopewell, N.J., "Frog War" between the forces of the D&BB and Pennsylvania Railroad.
Reading Company records (Accession 1520), Manuscripts and Archives Department, Hagley Museum and Library
Delaware and Bound Brook Railroad Company Records (Accession 1776), Manuscripts and Archives Department, Hagley Museum and Library
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Back to the original topic - it sure looks like everyone had a good time at the museum. Congrats on being able to display your layout and run trains in a great spot!
-Greg
The Railroad museum of PA is a great museum and I also do a display there in November during their Trains & Troops showing militaria. The Flyer New Haven cars that were painted and one modified into a observation was interesting. They are very short however and the lack of length is very apparent when running more prototypical length passenger cars.
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