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Art

No, unfortunately I don't..it showed up in the 'recommended" section of my Youtube account. Its pretty frightening. I dont know which is worse, the power of the tornado or the power of a derailing train.

One probably naive thought crossed my mind..is why they did not halt the train..Were they unaware of it's ( the tornado ) approach? I would think dispatch could have warned them but perhaps dispatching is so remote and centralized this is perhaps an impossibility.

Who knows? Perhaps a railroader can answer this,

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When that video first came out years ago it was claimed to be taken in early February up by Rockford, IL. Now I live in the far northwest suburbs between Rockford & Chicago and we don't have tornadoes in Feb. I used to have the original date that video was taken and according to the National Weather Service our area was in sub-zero temps with light snow...not exactly tornado weather.

 

It's been widely speculated that video is a hoax made Hollywood style by the use of computer graphics. 

Originally Posted by electroliner:

When I saw that tank car heading for them..oh brother..I would have bailed.

As this was the trailing unit, the crew wouldn't have seen the tank car coming.  They were still probably processing why the train went into emergency.

 

Originally Posted by electroliner:

Art

No, unfortunately I don't..it showed up in the 'recommended" section of my Youtube account. Its pretty frightening. I dont know which is worse, the power of the tornado or the power of a derailing train.

One probably naive thought crossed my mind..is why they did not halt the train..Were they unaware of it's ( the tornado ) approach? I would think dispatch could have warned them but perhaps dispatching is so remote and centralized this is perhaps an impossibility.

Who knows? Perhaps a railroader can answer this,

Tornados are unpredictable.  Even when conditions are right, they may not form.  A tornado may be on the ground for seconds to minutes to ???, feet to miles.  They can skip over areas and even change directions at any moment.

 

When I was in Civil Defense, I was at one site where you could see in the tall grass where the funnel cloud made two 90 degree turns and reversed direction.

 

Rusty

Originally Posted by CRH:

When that video first came out years ago it was claimed to be taken in early February up by Rockford, IL. Now I live in the far northwest suburbs between Rockford & Chicago and we don't have tornadoes in Feb. I used to have the original date that video was taken and according to the National Weather Service our area was in sub-zero temps with light snow...not exactly tornado weather.

 

It's been widely speculated that video is a hoax made Hollywood style by the use of computer graphics. 

 

I agree.  Look at the trees on either side of the track.  if this is a tornado, why are they just lazily waving back and forth like in a stiff summer breeze?  How come you don't see branches and stuff flying through the air like toothpicks?  And where's the noise...you know the noise that almost every survivor of one of these things swears the storm sounded like...you know,  another freight train!!  I don't hear much beyond the train in the video.  (Someone get Jim Cantore in here!  LOL)  

 

- Mike

Originally Posted by CRH:

 

It's been widely speculated that video is a hoax made Hollywood style by the use of computer graphics. 

It happened January 7, 2008

 

http://tornadoes.webonline-vid...ails-train-cab-view/

 

It also made the Chicago news.

 

Also:

http://www.uprr.com/newsinfo/r...8/0118_harvard.shtml

 

http://www.democraticundergrou...mp;address=150x15373

 

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/lot/?n=20080107tor

 

Pretty elaborate coverage for a hoax I would say....

 

Rusty

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Originally Posted by mike.caruso:
Originally Posted by CRH:

When that video first came out years ago it was claimed to be taken in early February up by Rockford, IL. Now I live in the far northwest suburbs between Rockford & Chicago and we don't have tornadoes in Feb. I used to have the original date that video was taken and according to the National Weather Service our area was in sub-zero temps with light snow...not exactly tornado weather.

 

It's been widely speculated that video is a hoax made Hollywood style by the use of computer graphics. 

 

I agree.  Look at the trees on either side of the track.  if this is a tornado, why are they just lazily waving back and forth like in a stiff summer breeze?  How come you don't see branches and stuff flying through the air like toothpicks?  And where's the noise...you know the noise that almost every survivor of one of these things swears the storm sounded like...you know,  another freight train!!  I don't hear much beyond the train in the video.  (Someone get Jim Cantore in here!  LOL)  

 

- Mike

Clearly, you don't understand how selective tornados can be...(from the NOAA website)

Tornado derailment Lawrence IL 010708

Note the "hoax" laying on its side at the top of the frame.

 

Rusty

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I'm not denying there was a tornado in that locale on that date. No hoax as far as i'm concerned.   I'm only agreeing with CRH that the video itself could've been...could've been...altered digitally to make it more dramatic.  I've always been amazed at the ability of tornados to blow away a house and leave ,say, a church's stained glass window across the street completely intact.  You're right, their selectivity is incredible at times.  I just wonder why these trees don't appear to be moving about all that wildly.  And look at the video from the time the car derails to the point where the trailing tank car smashes into it.   There's virtually no sound, other than that of the derailing train itself.  Wouldn't there be some additional roaring sound caused by the tornado?

Originally Posted by mike.caruso:

I'm not denying there was a tornado in that locale on that date. No hoax as far as i'm concerned.   I'm only agreeing with CRH that the video itself could've been...could've been...altered digitally to make it more dramatic.  I've always been amazed at the ability of tornados to blow away a house and leave ,say, a church's stained glass window across the street completely intact.  You're right, their selectivity is incredible at times.  I just wonder why these trees don't appear to be moving about all that wildly.  And look at the video from the time the car derails to the point where the trailing tank car smashes into it.   There's virtually no sound, other than that of the derailing train itself.  Wouldn't there be some additional roaring sound caused by the tornado?

 

Seeing that CRH couldn't get the date right...

 

It took me less than 3 minutes to nail down the date and websites.  A little more research and less speculation, please.

 

In high winds I've seen the trees across the street being blown wildly while the tree in front of my house is becalmed (and vice-versa.)

 

 

Rusty

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