Jim, Yes, they are part of the Middle Division Special Runs! I hope to pick up one or two more in the future. And some H-21 hoppers too.
@ncdave posted:Here are three Atlas X29 boxcars that I bought on eBay this week. Really nicely detailed cars.
Dave, those are great looking box cars. Back when I added a few inhales of building a layout with two sizable yards so I would noe have to handle them (too fragile to "hand"el just shut them around. But since am relegated to temp for setups sold them off at a show at the NCTM one year.
I did keep the PMCK&Y cars to run with my P&LE A2a Berk.
Ron
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Ron, That express boxcar is really sharp. According to the information I have it a very accurate model of the real thing. The Weaver model I have isn’t quite as accurate. I look forward seeing your layout on Weekend Photo Fun every week. Keep up the good work!
PRRronbh
You are so right! Atlas cars have great details. But handling is a challenge for sure! Like the outside braced boxcars. Nice change of pace from steel and wood sheathed cars.
@ncdave posted:PRRronbh
You are so right! Atlas cars have great details. But handling is a challenge for sure! Like the outside braced boxcars. Nice change of pace from steel and wood sheathed cars.
I am bowing out of the GSC as I am not sure that the combination of MTH and Atlas is going to continue the creativity and exact detail I am use to in past years of the GSC. I also am not sure what the buying of MTH actually means as I continue to see product advertised as MTH. I buy predominately Steam so with Atlas diesel locomotives, I see only the MTH control system in their Locomotive. I am thoroughly confused where Atlas is headed.
1 of 3: Rail service in and out of Penn Station New York is operating with select cancellations and potentially heavy delays due to extensive repairs to the signal system at the Portal Bridge.
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@pennsyfan posted:1 of 3: Rail service in and out of Penn Station New York is operating with select cancellations and potentially heavy delays due to extensive repairs to the signal system at the Portal Bridge.
Nice bridges Bob
I'm sure I've posted this image to this thread previous, but this is probably one of my favorite photos I've taken of my PRR trains. E7s in the late 1950's awaiting assignments for NY&LB commuter runs.
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@Sitka posted:Nice bridges Bob
Thank you!
@GG1 4877 posted:I'm sure I've posted this image to this thread previous, but this is probably one of my favorite photos I've taken of my PRR trains. E7s in the late 1950's awaiting assignments for NY&LB commuter runs.
Sharp GG1 looking good! Mark
@PRRronbh posted:"GG1"????????????
I was thinking the same. F3's are my guess.
@Loose-Caboose posted:I was thinking the same. F3's are my guess.
Jonathan tagged them as E7s
@PRRronbh posted:"GG1"????????????
Mark was referring to my screen name. They are indeed E7s.
@Loose-Caboose posted:I was thinking the same. F3's are my guess.
PRR F3s never work Tuscan Red. Only DGLE for them. The only F units on the PRR to wear Tuscan were two AB sets of FP7s out of the 90ish sets the PRR ordered. Even though the PRR went for the FP7 most spent their days in freight service only. The Tuscan set did often get the call to pull the local to York, PA though.
Hoping for a Sunset rerun of FP7s so I can get a Tuscan B unit.
Uncle, Uncle. I will now relegate myself to the nearest corner to do penance and read about Pennsy Motive Power.😂
@GG1 4877 posted:Mark was referring to my screen name. They are indeed E7s.
Thats a big yes GG1 4877
@GG1 4877 posted:PRR F3s never work Tuscan Red. Only DGLE for them. The only F units on the PRR to wear Tuscan were two AB sets of FP7s out of the 90ish sets the PRR ordered. Even though the PRR went for the FP7 most spent their days in freight service only. The Tuscan set did often get the call to pull the local to York, PA though.
Hoping for a Sunset rerun of FP7s so I can get a Tuscan B unit.
Jonathan, how many Tuscan Red hood units did the PRR have including switches?
Ron
@PRRronbh posted:Jonathan, how many Tuscan Red hood units did the PRR have including switches?
Ron
I'd have to go back to some reference books for that one and even then, it is possible that they aren't 100% correct. We all know the Standard Railway of the World was anything but at times.
Off the top of my head, I'm recall that some of the switchers got a Tuscan Red dip paint job later in their lives. There weren't many though. Tuscan red PRR locomotives are much more prevalent in the modeling world then they were in real life. None of the road hood units got Tuscan Red. It's too bad because N&W's passenger GP9s in Tuscan were so elegant!
All the E units started getting Tuscan Red in 1952. They stayed in several versions of that paint scheme in some cases through PC. BP passenger sharks and Alco PAs also got Tuscan in 1952, but then some of them got regeared for freight and helper service and painted in the single stripe DGLE scheme. Only 13 GG1s got 5 stripe Tuscan and 2 got single stripe Tuscan.
Do you have additional insight Ron? I thought I could find the photo I'm thinking of on the web, but I was unsuccessful.
I won't wade into the K4s Tuscan controversy. Not having a color image to reference and with anecdotal evidence at best, I don't think we will ever know the real answer to that one! 
Jim - as you can see us SPF (Slobbering Pennsy Freaks) can be a little over the top!
My PRR F units - probably all reposts, but 17 pages into this thread is anyone offended? All 2 Rail Sunset products.
FP7s first in the 9800 series. In Pennsy parlance EFP-15s.
EMD EF-15 or an F7
Also class EF-15 AB set or F3s to every other road.
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@GG1 4877 posted:I'd have to go back to some reference books for that one and even then, it is possible that they aren't 100% correct. We all know the Standard Railway of the World was anything but at times.
Off the top of my head, I'm recall that some of the switchers got a Tuscan Red dip paint job later in their lives. There weren't many though. Tuscan red PRR locomotives are much more prevalent in the modeling world then they were in real life. None of the road hood units got Tuscan Red. It's too bad because N&W's passenger GP9s in Tuscan were so elegant!
Don Ball's PRR 1940s-50s has a few...
VO-1000 (*Ahem* BS-10 for us Pennsy-people) Cab number 5916 was painted tuscan and is documented in that book working out of the Maple Shade NJ area on local freights.
I love tuscan on the E units and passenger/freight cars - but cannot stand to see a tuscan GG1. It bothers me when people pair them with tuscan coaches as those GG1s were painted Tuscan to pull the stainless steel Congressional (I know... to each their own, but still my pet peeve!!!)
Found these in my archive too. Many layouts ago, but fun images even if like all the rest of my layouts, this one was never finished much past this point either.
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@Prr7688 posted:Don Ball's PRR 1940s-50s has a few...
VO-1000 (*Ahem* BS-10 for us Pennsy-people) Cab number 5916 was painted tuscan and is documented in that book working out of the Maple Shade NJ area on local freights.
I love tuscan on the E units and passenger/freight cars - but cannot stand to see a tuscan GG1. It bothers me when people pair them with tuscan coaches as those GG1s were painted Tuscan to pull the stainless steel Congressional (I know... to each their own, but still my pet peeve!!!)
Thank you! That jogged my memory. I have that book in my collection. There could be a whole new topic on what a wonderful author Don Ball was.
I agree the Tuscan G's looked best with stainless coaches. I saw NJT's Tuscan G pull former PC coaches in NJ Transit and DOT paint as a young teen and it was a nice match.
Jonathan,
Apparently the Sunnyside Yard folks painted Baldwin four stack VO-1000 road number 5916 in Tuscan Red to work the passenger yard. Pages 78 and 79 of Don Ball,Jr. "The Pennsylvania Railroad" has pictures of this unit working freight in Pensauken, N.J. and Maple Shade, N.J.
Then there is the other side of the cion Baldwin RF-16 Sharks in DGLE freight engines. EDIT, in my haste to pound this out last night omitted the major fact with these RF-16's, they had 5-gold stripes. (5/16/2023)
Sure wish you had info on the mysteries Tuscan K4's !?
MTH made the Red VO-1000 #5916 in 2009.
Ron
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@GG1 4877 posted:My PRR F units - probably all reposts, but 17 pages into this thread is anyone offended? All 2 Rail Sunset products.
FP7s first in the 9800 series. In Pennsy parlance EFP-15s.
EMD EF-15 or an F7
Also class EF-15 AB set or F3s to every other road.
Offended never you have a great looking collection keep the post coming and the History of this once great Railroad! wtg Jonathan.
@GG1 4877 posted:My PRR F units - probably all reposts, but 17 pages into this thread is anyone offended? All 2 Rail Sunset products.
Also class EF-15 AB set or F3s to every other road.
Nice collection of PRR Fs. Because my layout is pre-1950 I only have the F3.
However, I was not initially going to buy F3s due to no manufacture (importer?), except some high-end brass importers, had the correct PRR number boards (PRR used the bullet number boards through their first lot of F7s). When 3rd Rail offered their F3s with the correct bullet number boards, I immediately order an all-powered ABA set. Really nice engines, although I need to replace the current 3 rail couplers with Kadees to get them closer together.
ADDED: These are, in PRR terminology, EF-15 (EMD Freight 1500hp). While EMD called all F-3s a F-3, rail fans referred to this model as F3 Phase 2 Late, built between 12/47 and 4/48. What distinguished this from earlier F3s was it was the first with the low radiator fan tops.
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@GG1 4877 posted:Thank you! That jogged my memory. I have that book in my collection. There could be a whole new topic on what a wonderful author Don Ball was.
I agree the Tuscan G's looked best with stainless coaches. I saw NJT's Tuscan G pull former PC coaches in NJ Transit and DOT paint as a young teen and it was a nice match.
I'd actually consider getting a GG1 in the NJT livery, but I don't think any manufacturer has ever done it. I know Lionel has starter sets with NJT engine/coaches so it seems the licensing is available
@Prr7688 posted:I'd actually consider getting a GG1 in the NJT livery, but I don't think any manufacturer has ever done it. I know Lionel has starter sets with NJT engine/coaches so it seems the licensing is available
O-Line did a NJDOT black paint scheme GG1. It was the shorty version based on the K-Line tooling. MTH offered a Tuscan Red 4877 which only wore Tuscan Red while running for NJT. The bulk of the NJT fleet was all PC black without the PC logo and a stenciled "NJ Department of Transportation" under one of the numbers. However, NJDOT / NJT 4880 and 4883 kept their PRR DGLE with the wide single stripe until retirement. It would have been nice to see a GG1 get the full NJT paint scheme. I think it would have been really attractive!
Of the former PRR locomotives only a pair of E8s ever got the NJT paint. Most ran into retirement in the NJDOT Blue/Silver with red pinstripes. I saw lots of those growing up!
Seemed like a good day to get tanked.
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@pennsyfan posted:Seemed like a good day to get tanked.
Nice to see some PW muscle on the rails Bob, nice looking set of tankers
Picked up a K-Line Railway Express Agency car K7601 1990's? Has a nice paint scheme to go along with Rail King passenger set God Speed all keep those rails shining.
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Well, although I just partially posted these pictures on T.E.T. I thought the PRR folks might also enjoy seeing this Lionel SMOKING caboose from 1988. Its the Lionel (MPC) # 19805 PRR "extended vision" caboose.
Note the very large diameter "stack" , this is to allow the smoke to escape from the smoke generator inside. You put smoke fluid down the stack to start the process.
Best Wishes
Don
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@Don McErlean posted:Well, although I just partially posted these pictures on T.E.T. I thought the PRR folks might also enjoy seeing this Lionel SMOKING caboose from 1988. Its the Lionel (MPC) # 19805 PRR "extended vision" caboose.
Note the very large diameter "stack" , this is to allow the smoke to escape from the smoke generator inside. You put smoke fluid down the stack to start the process.
Best Wishes
Don
Don sharp Caboose! How well does it smoke? Can you do a video with some smoking action?
@Sitka - I will try but its been a long time since I operated it, so it may not work.
Don
@NJCJOE posted:
Very nice Joe. I’m not familiar with that engine. Mfr? Year?
MTH standard gauge. Not sure of the year.
It has PS2 and runs nicely.
@pennsyfan- GREAT Bob, thanks for posting!
Don
