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I have some PS-1 (pre-PS-2) MTH engines that I want to give to my grandkids.  I am trying to make them as friendly as possible for them as they don't know about having to place the engine on the track with a voltage greater than 10V in order to have them run.  Just put them on the track and run them.

I have a few questions about PS-1 as I am rather confused about the requirements of the various versions.  First off, I know that not all PS-1 have batteries.  Do xxxx-0 engines not have batteries and xxxx-1 engines have batteries?  If I have a pre-PS-2 engine without batteries, should I always be able to simple place it on the track and run it?  As for the engines with batteries, I know that I can replace the battery with a BCR.  However, this requires that the grandkid follow the startup protocol of placing the engine on the track and applying greater than 10V for a minute.  I'm not sure that many kids would remember to do this and therefore, possibly scramble the firmware in the engine.  I read in a recently posted topic that a fellow said the a pre-PS-2 engine which normally had a battery could be run without a battery (or BCR I assume).  It was stated that you would only lose the special sounds and features.  Otherwise, the engine would run (forward and reverse) without problem.  Is this true?

I would appreciate and info, words of wisdom, etc that would allow my grandkids to run these engines without their going off into the weeds.

Thanks !

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XXXX-0 locomotives are not PS-1 locomotives, they were simple conventional locomotives.  XXXX-1 are the Protosound (1) locomotives.  I have also read on MTH's really old Protosound site that PS-1 locomotives could be run without the batteries, but I have yet to try it myself.  I do know a weak battery will mess it up.  IMHO, if you want it to be as simple as possible, put a new alkaline 9V battery in it, lock it in forward, and then remove the battery.  Now it'll run sans battery and will always go when it has power.  Otherwise you'll have to deal with staying under 10V to startup and letting it sit 30 seconds to charge the BCR.  There is no way around it if you keep the PS-1 electronics in it.  Which leads to the next option, to replace the electronics with a simple reverser board or upgrade it to TMCC or PS-3 electronics which don't need a battery to run.  But you'll loose the sounds it came with, but the TMCC has sound options and PS-3 comes with sounds.

Hi Paul,  With the original "Protosound" and by the way there is NO official MTH Protosound-one (PS-1).  I have never seen a MTH box marked/identified as Protosound-one or PS-1.  This has become an incorrect term more of a Toy Train/Model Train colloquialism stemming form the "fix" by QSI for/to original early-mid 90's MTH Protosound engines.

The 10 VAC is ONLY for at  initial power-up.  MTH PS engines power-up in "Reset" mode.  The cycle is Reset-Forward- Neutral-Reverse-Neutral-Forward etc.  Until power is interrupted then powers up in Reset again. 

After each power-up Reset to Forward  cycle you can operate at any voltage level up t0 say 20/22VAC at least as long as will stay on track.

Ron

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