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Last Monday @DonMcErlean  noted that he was out of reefers. I had been thinking about changing things up; and he put me over the edge. So Reefer Monday is now Rolling Stock Monday. It’s about all rolling stock with the exception of Boxcars since they are extremely well covered on BOXCAR SUNDAY(with 200 plus pages, Dave is doing a great job.) and Beer Rolling Stock.I only became aware of the Beer Rolling stock thread recently. So let’s see your auto loaders, boat loaders, cabeese, cranes and crane tenders, flat cars, gondolas, hoppers, industry specific, MOW, ore cars, food reefers, tank cars, vat cars, well cars,stock cars, etc. Please follow the forum’s TOS.

I’ll start this off with a K-Line Heinz 57 Varieties Tank Car. IMG_3795

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@pennsyfan posted:

Paul, is that able to get around your layout? I’ve got the Lionel machinery car. It was an add on to the machine shop that I don’t have. The car doesn’t clear the bridges! 😡

The answer is yes and no, Bob. I only have one bridge on my layout…

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With the bridge up, anything can fit under it. With it down, pantographs have conniptions (don’t ask how I know). However, crossing it is problematic for tall cars (I can’t run double stacked intermodals for example). When I was planning my layout, @leapinlarry was kind enough to point out the height limitations of the lift section, but I just had to use the bridge because it reminds me so much of the Gil Hodges  Memorial Bridge!!!

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The answer is yes and no, Bob. I only have one bridge on my layout…

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With the bridge up, anything can fit under it. With it down, pantographs have conniptions (don’t ask how I know). However, crossing it is problematic for tall cars (I can’t run double stacked intermodals for example). When I was planning my layout, @leapinlarry was kind enough to point out the height limitations of the lift section, but I just had to use the bridge because it reminds me so much of the Gil Hodges  Memorial Bridge!!!

Oh, I know it well. When I was a kid it was 10 cents to cross. I was drawn to the RR. Bridge application. Sometimes when traffic was really bad in NJ I would take truck 1&9 and that was right next to the bridge.

The Lionel Center Span Lift Bridge is modeled after the Park Avenue Railroad Bridge in NYC, currently in use by Metro North. The Marine Parkway-Gil Hodges Memorial Bridge is quite similar, and, when built in 1937, was the longest center span lift bridge in the world. It’s now $2.60, each way, for non Rockaway residents to cross.

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It’s Rolling Stock Monday 12/9/24.
It’s about all rolling stock with the exception of Boxcars since they are extremely well covered on BOXCAR SUNDAY(with 200 plus pages, Dave is doing a great job.) and Beer Rolling Stock.I only became aware of the Beer Rolling stock thread recently. So let’s see your auto loaders, boat loaders, cabeese, cranes and crane tenders, flat cars, gondolas, hoppers, industry specific, MOW, ore cars, food reefers, tank cars, vat cars, well cars,stock cars, etc. Please follow the forum’s TOS.

Today I have a caboose that I have been looking for, for a very long time. It’s a common 9272 New Haven Bay Window caboose but it has a distinctive marking; the METCA logo embossed in Silver. The caboose came in a crisp original box and is absolutely Mint.

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Living in Brooklyn all through grade school and high school, when it came to grocery shopping, we’d have to walk a couple of blocks to the store. If we walked to Flatbush Avenue, we had a choice of two A&P’s - these are two new Lionel reefers I just picked up from Grzyboski’s…

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If we walked the opposite direction to Nostrand Avenue, there was an old Bohack market, and thanks to the NJ HiRailers, I have a nice set of reefers to remember those days.

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The very first supermarket I remember visiting when I was VERY young was a one of the original Waldbaums on Coney Island Avenue… thanks to @MELGAR, I am still on the hunt for one more reefer!!!

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@Apples55 - Paul, I grew up in New Jersey (Bloomfield) and can remember from about age 4 my Mom taking me with her to the A&P which was within walking distance. I have never connected with an A&P  boxcar so I am still on the lookout.  We didn't have a "Bohack's"  or a "Waldbaums" (at least as it plays in my 4 year old memory).

Well today friends, I have decided to celebrate what is perhaps one of  the most humble of our rolling stock, the "GONDOLA".  While today, many of us have long 50 ft or 60 ft gondolas and we need to remember that when Lionel pioneered the use of molded plastics in the early pw (WW II) period it was a gondola that was used as the lead car. However, as I often do, I am going back earlier than that.  

Remember that for the most part, at least in the early part of the century, toy trains were the provenance of children.  Oh yes we had some really great detail scale hobbyists but for the most part it was children, primarily boys, who the products from the main manufacturers were aimed.  So why was the gondola often included in every new set?  Because a gondola represented a great opportunity for PLAY.  It could give things a "ride", it could transport toy soldiers, it could move rocks or sand, it could carry anything that child wished to have go on the train.  That was a huge expansion of the play value of a set (or outfit as Lionel called them) .  So here are some early gondolas'

Well here is the "old guard", the Lionel, "Lake Shore" gondola from 1924 although it was available earlier in a lighter grey and even a pale red.  She carries  the Lionel "Corp" stamp on her bottom and is just 4 wheels.  Think about how many toy soldiers she could carry ..."to the front" ... during the post war days of WW I.

Lionel 901 Gondola

Now, time moves on and we are getting more robust with the availability of an 8 wheel car with trucks and journal boxes.  It was however 1935 and the US, indeed the world, was in the grips of the Great Depression.  Families could not afford Lionel's beautiful hand painted enamel cars (although Lionel Cowen loved them ) and so to keep the Company solvent, cheaper products had to be found.  One solution was lithography.  Cowen never really liked it, thought it looked cheap compared to his "beautiful" enameled offerings, BUT it allowed the visual inclusion of great detail with very modest expense.  So he allowed the development of two series of lithographed freight cars around 1935,  the 16XX cars at 7 1/2 " and the 17XX cars at 9 1/2" . Interestingly the 16XX cars became the first to be identified as "0-27" after the designation of "Lionel Jr." was dropped in 1937.

So here is the Lionel Lines # 1677 gondola of 1935 ready to move out and carry whatever that young engineer wanted as cargo in his imaginary RR empire.  Indeed, this one below, has had a rough life, perhaps carrying sand and rocks vice toy soldiers, but these cars are not so easy to find.  Their cheap price made them "expendable" in compared with Lionel's other (and much more expensive) freight car lines so they tended to be played with hard and then Mom threw them away (OH NO!).

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Well Happy Rolling Stock Monday everyone.  Best wishes for a great Holiday season

Best Regards, Don

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@Apples55 - Paul, I grew up in New Jersey (Bloomfield) and can remember from about age 4 my Mom taking me with her to the A&P which was within walking distance. I have never connected with an A&P  boxcar so I am still on the lookout.  We didn't have a "Bohack's"  or a "Waldbaums" (at least as it plays in my 4 year old memory).

Well today friends, I have decided to celebrate what is perhaps one of  the most humble of our rolling stock, the "GONDOLA".  While today, many of us have long 50 ft or 60 ft gondolas and we need to remember that when Lionel pioneered the use of molded plastics in the early pw (WW II) period it was a gondola that was used as the lead car. However, as I often do, I am going back earlier than that. 

Remember that for the most part, at least in the early part of the century, toy trains were the provenance of children.  Oh yes we had some really great detail scale hobbyists but for the most part it was children, primarily boys, who the products from the main manufacturers were aimed.  So why was the gondola often included in every new set?  Because a gondola represented a great opportunity for PLAY.  It could give things a "ride", it could transport toy soldiers, it could move rocks or sand, it could carry anything that child wished to have go on the train.  That was a huge expansion of the play value of a set (or outfit as Lionel called them) .  So here are some early gondolas'

Well here is the "old guard", the Lionel, "Lake Shore" gondola from 1924 although it was available earlier in a lighter grey and even a pale red.  She carries  the Lionel "Corp" stamp on her bottom and is just 4 wheels.  Think about how many toy soldiers she could carry ..."to the front" ... during the post war days of WW I.

Lionel 901 Gondola

Now, time moves on and we are getting more robust with the availability of an 8 wheel car with trucks and journal boxes.  It was however 1935 and the US, indeed the world, was in the grips of the Great Depression.  Families could not afford Lionel's beautiful hand painted enamel cars (although Lionel Cowen loved them ) and so to keep the Company solvent, cheaper products had to be found.  One solution was lithography.  Cowen never really liked it, thought it looked cheap compared to his "beautiful" enameled offerings, BUT it allowed the visual inclusion of great detail with very modest expense.  So he allowed the development of two series of lithographed freight cars around 1935,  the 16XX cars at 7 1/2 " and the 17XX cars at 9 1/2" . Interestingly the 16XX cars became the first to be identified as "0-27" after the designation of "Lionel Jr." was dropped in 1937.

So here is the Lionel Lines # 1677 gondola of 1935 ready to move out and carry whatever that young engineer wanted as cargo in his imaginary RR empire.  Indeed, this one below, has had a rough life, perhaps carrying sand and rocks vice toy soldiers, but these cars are not so easy to find.  Their cheap price made them "expendable" in compared with Lionel's other (and much more expensive) freight car lines so they tended to be played with hard and then Mom threw them away (OH NO!).

Lionel 1677 Gondola side view

Well Happy Rolling Stock Monday everyone.  Best wishes for a great Holiday season

Best Regards, Don

Very nice post Don; but you missed something. The humble gondola was the very core of Lionel. Josh Cowan developed the motorized gondola so store keepers could attract attention with their goods moving around the window. When customers wanted the gondola more than the product it was promoting; that evolved into Lionel Trains.

Let's see, while not all of them, we have these active photo albums:

Beer Rolling Stock

Boxcar Sunday

STEAMday Sunday

Switcher Saturday

a picture a day

Team Track Tuesday

Freight Trains

Weekend Photo Fun

Front End Friday

Tail End Tuesday

Unusual, unique, and rare

Western Road Wednesday

Pennsylvania RR

Passenger Trains

Picture of the Day

F3 for Fridays

Now we have Rolling Stock Monday which was Reefer Monday (changed because some folks were running out of reefers).

So looking for cars that do not fit into the above categories, here are my rolling stock for today.  Two 3rd Rail models.

Six Dome Ambrose Wine Co.  First picture is what it looked like out of the box, the second with Atlas trucks.

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Chlorine Tank Car

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PS.  I think reefers are still good under this topic.

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@CAPPilot posted:


So looking for cars that do not fit into the above categories, here are my rolling stock for today.  Two 3rd Rail models.

Six Dome Ambrose Wine Co.  First picture is what it looked like out of the box, the second with Atlas trucks.

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Ron;

Looks like the engineer and conductor have been sampling the wares   That is definitely an unusual tank car - I don’t think I’ve ever seen a six dome car. Thanks for sharing.

@Apples55 - Paul, I grew up in New Jersey (Bloomfield) and can remember from about age 4 my Mom taking me with her to the A&P which was within walking distance. I have never connected with an A&P  boxcar so I am still on the lookout.  We didn't have a "Bohack's"  or a "Waldbaums" (at least as it plays in my 4 year old memory).

Well Happy Rolling Stock Monday everyone.  Best wishes for a great Holiday season

Best Regards, Don

We didn’t have a car until I was in college, so we either walked or took NYC subways or buses. That really was a simpler time. I think, in those days, both Bohack and Waldbaums were pretty much limited to the city and Long Island. If you like the A&P reefers I posted, they were recently released and several of our fine forum sponsors show them in stock.

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@pennsyfan- You are so right Bob, I did miss that "first" gondola, made of wood and with just a circle of track, designed to just carry "something" for sale in a shop window.  Of course I do not have any sample of that car or anything even close to it.  Any of Lionel's  2 7/8" gauge trains from his earliest era command such high prices I would have to sell my car to just even bid on them .  Wish I could have posted one of those.  Best Wishes and thanks for the comment.

Don

@Apples55 - Paul, thanks for all the comments and posting some really neat pictures of covered gondolas.   I liked your comment about the family not having a car.  We did have a car because my father and grandfather (we lived in a 2 family house with my grandparents)both went to work in directions not covered by public transportation, even though my father only drove to the RR station and then took a train.

However we had both buses and trolley cars as I was growning up, although the trolley's went away before I was 10 so we would go to the stores on those as well.

Great swapping tales with you, Best Wishes

Don

It’s Rolling Stock Monday 12/16/24
It’s about all rolling stock with the exception of Boxcars since they are extremely well covered on BOXCAR SUNDAY(with 200 plus pages, Dave is doing a great job.) and Beer Rolling Stock.I only became aware of the Beer Rolling stock thread recently. So let’s see your auto loaders, boat loaders, cabeese, cranes and crane tenders, flat cars, gondolas, hoppers, industry specific, MOW, ore cars, food reefers, tank cars, vat cars, well cars,stock cars, etc. Please follow the forum’s TOS.

For this Monday I have 2 rolling stock items recently acquired by the Farmingdale Traction Company. The tank car and work caboose were previously owned; but the paint shop quickly applied the FTC lettering.

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Well following @pennsyfan and @Apples55 here are a couple of my work cabooses, the Lionel C&O #6219 from 1960 and the Lionel D.L.&W # 6419 from 1948-1950 and 1952-1955.

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Then going to school on @walt rapp had to have one of my cattle cars.  This one from Marx...Hey Marx is the "low end" right, so with Marx you get ONE cow...that's it!!

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Best Wishes for a happy RSM everyone ...

Don

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@Apples55 posted:

Ron;

.......That is definitely an unusual tank car - I don’t think I’ve ever seen a six dome car. Thanks for sharing.

I had not seen a six-dome car either and wasn't sure there was a prototype for it.  So I looked it up after I bought it.  This is a car made specifically to haul wine.  There were two styles of 6-dome wine cars, one by General American Tank Car and the other by American Car & Foundry.  This 3rd Rail all brass model is of an AC&F car.

My notes say Ed Hawkins provided this information:  Wine comes in all sorts of types and quality.  Much of what was hauled by rail, was a lower grade product that was bottled in the market area served.  Wine cars came in different configurations ranging from single compartment, two, three, four and six compartment designs.

Here are a couple more pics of my 6-dome:

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Since others are showing their work caboose, here is mine.  However, it is not going to be a caboose for long.  The Pennsy did not have anything like this, so I plan to put a scale single dome tank car body on it and it will be close to a car the Pennsy used for fire fighting.  I will also need to paint it battleship grey to fit into my late 1940's theme (camp car yellow was not used until late 1953). 

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@CAPPilot posted:

Six Dome Ambrose Wine Co.  First picture is what it looked like out of the box, the second with Atlas trucks.

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CAPPilot  Ron, I also have a 3rd Rail 6-dome tank car lettered for Roma Wine, and like yours, mine also had a smashed truck when I removed it from the box. Yours looks great with the new Atlas trucks. Can you please tell me the number of the trucks you used and is it a simple replacement? Mine is special to me because my late wife's name was Roma.  Thank you.

CAPPilot  Ron, I also have a 3rd Rail 6-dome tank car lettered for Roma Wine, and like yours, mine also had a smashed truck when I removed it from the box. Yours looks great with the new Atlas trucks. Can you please tell me the number of the trucks you used and is it a simple replacement? Mine is special to me because my late wife's name was Roma.  Thank you.

I looked up the car in my database and it is actually a Sunset product.  Bought used 9/2016.  All I have in the database is Atlas trucks, $25, so I can't provide much help.  I don't remember it being a problem to replace them.  Here is a better photo of the truck.  Hope it helps.

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Well the world (except for the children) has been quite naughty this year, so Santa has a lot of coal to give out!  His sleigh just can't handle the load so he has rigged up 3 gondola (AF calls them "sand") cars to help carry the load.  So under contract to Santa, we get a year's supply of candy canes,  the Leonardtown and Savannah has lined up 3 sand cars to be carried out to the North Pole for tomorrow night.

First is the lithographed AF 311131 Sand Car from 1936-1937.

American Flyer 311131 sand car '36-'37

Next is the AF 1116 PRR Sand Car from 1919-1929 (8 wheel version) in yellow.

American Flyer 1116 8 wheel PRR gondola

Finally the AF 1116 PRR Sand Car (4 wheel version) from 1932-1937 in green.   Note the 4 wheel was actually cataloged as the 1113 car, but Flyer used the bodies of 8 wheel and 4 wheel interchangeably and most of the cars came with 1116 labeled bodies.

American Flyer #1116 Sand Car green side view

So with this set of trailing cars to hold his coal load, Santa is set for Christmas Eve

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

Don

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Here is a Weaver PS2 cement hopper in Burlington Route livery. Growing up by the tracks, there was a siding that went into the culvert plant. Once a week they would drop off 15 to 20 of these filled with concrete for making culverts. In the early 80's they switched to truck delivery and removed the spur. I have 10 or 15 of these which makes a nice train and brings back fond memories.

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Welcome to the NEW YEARS EDITION of Rolling Stock Monday.! A few simple rules. This thread is for all rolling stock with the exception of Boxcars and Beer Reefers. Please follow the forum TOS when posting

The New York Boat Show is a few weeks away. Here are some boats making their way to the show. Given the size of the boats on the Boat Loader; I think that they may be heading to a kiddie amusement park. IMG_4001IMG_4002
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Well following Bob and Paul , here is a #3018 American Flyer tank car from 1930-1931  so some 95 years old.  This one, while not perfect, came to my collection for the incredible price of $1.25 on E-Bay.  At that price I was willing to overlook a few cosmetic faults.  She has no missing parts and still rolls in my consists with no trouble including having both functional couplers.  By the way the A.F.L. lettering on the grey tank with no "oil company" labels or livery is exactly the way she came from American Flyer in 1930.  At first (at that price) I thought she might have been "redecorated" by  a user after she was new but I eventually found pictures of her in her original state and this is exactly how she was made...including the periods between the letters...cool huh?

AF 3108 Tanker

Take a look at the attention to detail that Flyer provided in that era.  Separately provided and somewhat complex hand rails and the "brass" tank straps holding the tank to the frame.  The trucks have sheet metal side frames and "brass" journal boxes.   The lettering is simple but the construction is quite complex.  No question that there was a lot of hand assembly work in putting this car together.

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Paul / Bob despite my sometimes pre-ocupation with the "old stuff", I consider myself a "tank-a-holic" and have many tank cars in my collection but none like you just showed.  I really liked the pictures of your tank cars.  Thanks for posting.

Well I hope you enjoyed this "tiny" piece of the history of our hobby.  I can tell you she is  closer to her original shape at 95 than I am to mine at 80 !  Best wishes to everyone, Happy New Year again...

Don

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It’s Rolling Stock Monday 1/13/25! Starting a little early. Please follow the Forum TOS when posting. Let’s see your rolling stock! Excluding Boxcars and Beer Reefers. Here are two vat cars. 1 Lionel and 1 K-Line. The structure of the cars appear to be the same. Interestingly the Lionel roof hatches are simulated while the K-Line hatches open. The K-Line car is carrying KEOKUK Tomato products and pickles. The Lionel car is carrying Dole crushed pineapple. IMG_4244
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Can’t find my one and only vat car, so this will have to do…

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Paul,

1- You don’t have to follow on this thread.

2- They are great cars, who made them? I’d love to get a set for my son. He worked for MAERSK about 25 years ago. I got the first set for him Engine and deep well cars.
I took a picture of the 1:1 scale that SF made for MAERSK. They made 1 other engine for another company and then shut down the program.
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Well I don't have any Vat cars handy so following Paul's lead, this will have to do !  This is an American Flyer "Container Car" from the early 1930's  Note that this is car is a single piece, the "container's" are merely a figment of American Flyer's imagination and some clever lithography.   I love Flyer though, just in case you didn't recognize what kind of car this is...they printed "Container Car" on the livery on the side! 


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Best Wishes to you all on the last Monday of my Holiday Vacation.  Next RSM I will be back at work !

Don

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@pennsyfan posted:

Paul,

1- You don’t have to follow on this thread.

2- They are great cars, who made them? I’d love to get a set for my son. He worked for MAERSK about 25 years ago. I got the first set for him Engine and deep well cars.
I took a picture of the 1:1 scale that SF made for MAERSK. They made 1 other engine for another company and then shut down the program.

Bob;

Following is fun

They are definitely different cars and I love them. The cars are MTH Premier - 20-95290. There are 2 different car numbers under the one item number: 97524 and 97529. They are from 2018. I picked them up from Mr. Muffins when they first came out.

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Bob;

Following is fun

They are definitely different cars and I love them. The cars are MTH Premier - 20-95290. There are 2 different car numbers under the one item number: 97524 and 97529. They are from 2018. I picked them up from Mr. Muffins when they first came out.

Thanks Paul,

Bradys had one of the numbers so I took it.
I think that will make a nice BD present.

@pennsyfan - Hey Bob, can't help commenting.  My son, also worked for Maersk on their Navy Contract Ships where Maersk had the operating contract.  He left in 2007 worked out of a hiring hall on Guam and lived in the Philippines.

Don

Small world Don, Keith was in NJ; responsible for knowing where a container was at all times. On our last trip to YORK he picked up a set of Sealand containers and deep well cars to add to his set.

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Here’s a car a former coworker gave me for a retirement gift a few years back.  He knew I had worked for the power company before I went to the telecom company, he also knew Western Maryland is my favorite road.  He is an N scaler, and I keep in touch via Facebook.  I also see him at train shows.

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Mark, I just sent an email about Weaver cars.

It’s Rolling Stock Monday 1/20/25.. Please follow the Forum TOS when posting. Let’s see your rolling stock! Excluding Boxcars and Beer Reefers.

First I want to thank Paul for providing the information to me so I could find this car.
It’s the MTH 20-95290  MAERSK container car.  I was only able to find 1 of the 2 numbers.
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I bought this for my Son. I don’t have or run container trains or MAXI stacks. The only containers I have are these 3 because they have the flag.
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I run the LIONEL TOF cars.
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Let’s see your rolling stock!

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Glad to help, Bob.

Now I could just follow your lead…

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But, since we have been reminiscing about the old stomping grounds recently, here’s two special run cars from TrainWorld a couple of years ago. There were a few other choices, but the voices just called to me about these two (in fluent Brooklynese I might add)!!!

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Well it seems to be TOFC day on RSM so I guess I will follow suit.  This is my  only TOFC car for reasons I don't know and can't explain, but here she is!!  Its a Lionel #6424 car which is not listed in my "modern" listing of Lionel Rolling  stock.  So I can't give you a date when it was mfrd.

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Best Wishes for a cold, dreary, "almost" snow Monday in Central Texas

Don

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Thanks for starting us off Bob!  

Here's a trio of rolling stock for this RSM!  

Here a MTH RailKing gondola I weathered and filled with junk.

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Dairymen's reefer by Lionel.

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Monon custom run boxcar from Mr. Muffin's trains.  Check out the sounds.

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Well it seems to be TOFC day on RSM so I guess I will follow suit.  This is my  only TOFC car for reasons I don't know and can't explain, but here she is!!  Its a Lionel #6424 car which is not listed in my "modern" listing of Lionel Rolling  stock.  So I can't give you a date when it was mfrd.

Lionel 6424 BP pups on flat side viewLionel 6424 BP pups on flat end view

Best Wishes for a cold, dreary, "almost" snow Monday in Central Texas

Don

Don, The listing that I found for 6424 in PW  was a black car with autos. I did a search and found your car listed by        clicketyclacktoys.com. See below.  It’s listed as 6-26001. When I zoomed in on the photo the road number is 6424. I think the listing was for $67.
Update I just checked GB, it’s listed there at $150. Looks like you have a winner.

LIONEL • O GAUGE • 2001 BP Flatcar w/2 Piggyback Trailers 6-26001 • NEW OLD STOCK

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Here is an old kit-built livestock car shelf queen. It's 90 scale feet and won't navigate my 054 curves. I actually didn't buy for a runner it was a good price and interesting.

This is cool.  It is based on the conversion of 86' high cube boxcars into triple level pig cars referred to as a "Big Pig Palace". 

Lionel made the 86' boxcar, and I have a PRR version of it. Shown next to my On3 D&RGW stock car for a fun size comparison. 

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Here is a link to the prototype car:  Big Pig Palace

There was also a conversion to double decker versions for cattle referred to as "Big Steer Palace" cars. 

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Here is the American Flyer #482 log car.  This is from 1940-1941 and represents the start of the take over of Chicago Flyer by Gilbert.  The A.C.Gilbert Company of New Haven, Ct purchased the American Flyer Manufacturing Company of Chicago in February of 1938.  They began by introducing an entirely new line of trains at a scale of 3/16" to the foot or what is now known as "S" scale.  However up until the end of WWII they retained the O gauge trucks and track.  The Flyer more familiar 2 rail S gauge track did not appear till the post war period.  So this log car is a "mixture" its S scale and size but runs on O gauge track and also has the familiar pw American Flyer "link type" couplers.

The car is 7 5/8" long, came equipped with 6 smooth "logs" made from dowels, and marked with "American Flyer Lines" and "482" large number decals on the logs.  The car was most often seen with this green frame however it is also found with a black frame and very rarely with square timbers vice logs and even marked "483" these last two variations are VERY rare.

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Best Wishes on a COLD, DREARY, Monday in Central Texas!!

Don

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Here is the American Flyer #482 log car.  This is from 1940-1941 and represents the start of the take over of Chicago Flyer by Gilbert.  The A.C.Gilbert Company of New Haven, Ct purchased the American Flyer Manufacturing Company of Chicago in February of 1938.  They began by introducing an entirely new line of trains at a scale of 3/16" to the foot or what is now known as "S" scale.  However up until the end of WWII they retained the O gauge trucks and track.  The Flyer more familiar 2 rail S gauge track did not appear till the post war period.  So this log car is a "mixture" its S scale and size but runs on O gauge track and also has the familiar pw American Flyer "link type" couplers.

The car is 7 5/8" long, came equipped with 6 smooth "logs" made from dowels, and marked with "American Flyer Lines" and "482" large number decals on the logs.  The car was most often seen with this green frame however it is also found with a black frame and very rarely with square timbers vice logs and even marked "483" these last two variations are VERY rare.

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Best Wishes on a COLD, DREARY, Monday in Central Texas!!

Don

Interesting Don; sort of a reverse ON30 which is o gauge on HO track

@pennsyfan - Good comment Bob, yes I would say you are correct.  The entire Gilbert American Flyer line of "S" scale trains from the time they took over the American Flyer Manufacturing Company of Chicago and moved it all to New Haven, Ct was left as 0 gauge even though the new cars introduced used S scale vice 0 scale.  Flyer used the forced break caused by the cessation of toy production during WWII to design and make ready their S gauge, 2 rail track and the appropriate transformers etc.  They then emerged as the American Flyer we likely both knew from our boyhood.

It is also interesting to note that Marx tried the same approach.  They developed a very handsome S scale all metal lithographed line of freight and passenger cars at around the same time period (late 30's early 40's) and they too were interrupted by the WWII ban on metal toys.  In fact it is said, although it can't be confirmed, that the Marx rather well known #99 all metal locomotive was developed just to pull these freights.  Marx however never changed their trucks, gauge, or track system and continued to offer their "scale" freights in S scale but 0 gauge up until about 1954-55.  It has been said that at that early time many Flyer users switched trucks on the Marx cars and used them on their Flyer layouts.  To this day they are quite handsome.

Best Regards

Don

My parents both worked at and retired from Westinghouse when it was still big in Pittsburgh.  When Miller came out with his Circle W (for westinghouse - a well known sign in the burgh) I got it, made a crude building to hold it, and found these 2 cars that go nicely with it.

That sign is one that I've pretty proud of - he was going to make a version of it but posted on his site that he scrapped the idea for lack of info about it.  I did research and sent it to him and he made the sign - and gave me one to say "thanks".

= walt

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@walt rapp posted:

My parents both worked at and retired from Westinghouse when it was still big in Pittsburgh.  When Miller came out with his Circle W (for westinghouse - a well known sign in the burgh) I got it, made a crude building to hold it, and found these 2 cars that go nicely with it.

That sign is one that I've pretty proud of - he was going to make a version of it but posted on his site that he scrapped the idea for lack of info about it.  I did research and sent it to him and he made the sign - and gave me one to say "thanks".

= walt

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No video?

Well Bob, I apologize in advance for the condition of today's post.  It is one of my "ancients"!  I discovered this Ives # 65 Cattle car at an auction and just had to have this old gal.  The Ives #65 was first produced in 1910 and came as a 4 wheel or an 8 wheel car up to 1925.  Over those 15 years it came in a bewildering number of variations, my Ives book devotes 2 1/2 full pages of pictures to just the #65 !! This lithographed 8 wheel variation, from the New York Central and Harlem River RR (NYC & HR) sporting the orange/ yellow wood grained lithographing on the ends and open slot sides dates from 1918 to 1925 so it is between 100 and 106 years old.  The cross braces say (although some parts are worn off)  "Live Stock" on the left and "Transportation" on the right side of the door.

I love these old gal's...I admit it.  This one is remarkably complete for her age.  The two couplers are both complete and functioning as are both sets of trucks.  There is no rust on the frame, trucks, or wheels.  Both sides feature an operating door that still slides easily.  I just received this one from the auction and some time this week I intend to "run her" around the layout to celebrate her "Centennial"  trip!



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Best Wishes to All.  Happy R.S.M.!!

Don

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If it says Libbys, Libbys, Libbys on the label, label, label. You will like it, like it, like it on your table table table”.

Come on, admit it - you sang that

Now, when I was a kid, we had Renken’s milk on our table. Left in the milk box on the stoop early in the morning in glass bottles with those little cardboard stoppers!!! This was a METCA special run from a couple of years ago.

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If it says Libbys, Libbys, Libbys on the label, label, label. You will like it, like it, like it on your table table table”.

Come on, admit it - you sang that

Now, when I was a kid, we had Renken’s milk on our table. Left in the milk box on the stoop early in the morning in glass bottles with those little cardboard stoppers!!! This was a METCA special run from a couple of years ago.

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Renken’s was the dairy of choice when I worked in the Deli during HS. Can’t tell you how many gallons of milk I packed out in those three years. Of course I have one of those cars!

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No video?

Of what????  I showed what I wanted for this topic

- walt

@The Tinker = I'm guessing you're a pittsburgher too based on your knowledge.  Yes, I too remember the theory that it would never repeat a pattern.  Thanks for bringing back those memories.  And, BTW, East Pittsburgh is where Mom and Dad worked and met.  Dad worked on the first atomic submarine there.

@walt rapp posted:

Of what????  I showed what I wanted for this topic

- walt

@The Tinker = I'm guessing you're a pittsburgher too based on your knowledge.  Yes, I too remember the theory that it would never repeat a pattern.  Thanks for bringing back those memories.  And, BTW, East Pittsburgh is where Mom and Dad worked and met.  Dad worked on the first atomic submarine there.

Well you showed the sign and mentioned that you had a hand in it. I thought we’d see it lit up. Sorry to upset you.

@Railrunnin- Neat car for sure, but who is the clown in the cow's head?

Don

Hah, best I could do to remove the person from the picture - didn't realize the bovine nature of my airbrush until now.

FWIW, I don't think the person would have minded, but I did not have his permission and thought it best to ensure his privacy as it was his house.

Paul

Great sign Walt!  Like the "Clark Bar" truck as well!

Don

thanks @Don McErlean - I made the CLark bar truck because I had 3 Clark bar boxcars by MTH.  I also made a Clark Bar building to hold the Miller Clark Bar sign

- walt

The Clark bar sign is neat - it starts with just the "C" being lit, then progresses to the "Cl" being lit - etc. until all 5 letters are lit.  Here it is lit.

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It’s time for Rolling Stock Monday. Let’s see all your Rolling Stock other than boxcars and beer reefers. Please post within the forum guidelines in the TOS. The National Weather Service is forecasting more snow storms this week in NJ  and surrounding areas. The MOW crew is hard at work checking out two plows. If needed they will press the Great Northern old timer into service.

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Sorry… even though I’m retired, I still can’t bring myself to say happy Monday!!! In keeping with Punxsutawney Phil‘s prognostication, I’m keeping my snow equipment at the ready (even though the last two expected 3+ inch storms only resulted in an inch or so of snow/mixed precipitation).

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This last one I took a couple of years ago on a visit to the northern terminus of the Stourbridge Line in Honesdale, PA.

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Well I am getting ready to leave for work so I will have to improvise.  I don't have any official snow removal equipment but here are two auxiliaries to get ready for the upcoming storm.  First is the Fandor (German) Shell Tanker, ready to supply fuel to the flame torch that melts the ice on the tracks and switches.  Then comes the Fandor high sided gondola ready to carry sand to help in slippery tracks or the help out anyone who is stuck.  Both these cars carry the Fandor name, which I am sure I have said before, comes from the Forchiemer brothers who named their line of trains for the their mother and her sister, Fanny and Dora.  These are from Germany in the early 20's.  The brothers did eventually emigrate to the US where they started Dofan trains, by just reversing the two names.

Oh Yes...YEA EAGLES!!...Sorry could not resist that final emotional outburst. 

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Well I am off to work...Hi Ho , Hi Ho ... using the Disney song

Best wishes, Don

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It was certainly a busy weekend starting with Front End Friday and moving into SWSAT, followed by STEAMday Sunday. Lots of great posts and information sharing! Now It’s Rolling Stock Monday 2/17/25. Please follow the Forum TOS when posting. Let’s see your rolling stock! Excluding Boxcars and Beer Reefers.

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Bob - Thanks for getting us going for this fine Monday!   I like your flat car load of ship props!  Inspired by your post I'm showing one of my flat cars, a Western Maryland car transporting heavy equipment, a TOFC flat car, and a gondola.  

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The trailers are on a TOFC flat car designed for hauling trailers.  Here, a tractor pulls the first trailer off the car "circus style".  

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Well Bob may have the ship's propellers for the Sea Navy but me, since I worked for NAVAIR for nearly 20 years, has the necessary equipment for the Air Navy ... a Blackhawk H-60 on a flat car headed to Patuxent River, Naval Air Station the Navy's aircraft test facility on the Chesapeake Bay in Md.  Remember everyone, the United States Navy is the 2nd largest Air Force in the Free World.

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Have a great week everyone...Best Wishes...Don

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Well Bob may have the ship's propellers for the Sea Navy but me, since I worked for NAVAIR for nearly 20 years, has the necessary equipment for the Air Navy ... a Blackhawk H-60 on a flat car headed to Patuxent River, Naval Air Station the Navy's aircraft test facility on the Chesapeake Bay in Md.  Remember everyone, the United States Navy is the 2nd largest Air Force in the Free World.

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Have a great week everyone...Best Wishes...Don

Nice Don, I haven't found my ride with the wings folded so I could fit it on a flat car.
That would be a Grumman S2F. You can find it on the web as Grumman S2 tracker.

In the late teens and early 1920's before the Forcheimier brothers emigrated to the United States and started "Dorfan", they produced tinplate trains in Germany for the Kraus Company under the name "Fandor".  In both instances the name came from their mother and her sister, Fanny and Dora.  When they went to the US and started their US company they simply inverted the order of the names and Fandor became Dorfan.  Dorfan was unfortunately a victim of the Great Depression and their locomotives especially suffered greatly from zinc pest, so examples are somewhat tough to find today.

Shown below are two Fandor pieces of rolling stock, a Shell Tanker and a somewhat unusual car which does not seem to me to have a common name.  Its a gondola but it has high stake sides where the stakes are kept from expanding too far outward by being connected by chains ( yes one chain is missing).  So I guess I will call it a gondola/stake car.

OBTW Bob I loved the KMT space train, especially the floating ball over the top.  Neat!

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Best Wishes everyone, hope your week goes well

Don

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In the late teens and early 1920's before the Forcheimier brothers emigrated to the United States and started "Dorfan", they produced tinplate trains in Germany for the Kraus Company under the name "Fandor".  In both instances the name came from their mother and her sister, Fanny and Dora.  When they went to the US and started their US company they simply inverted the order of the names and Fandor became Dorfan.  Dorfan was unfortunately a victim of the Great Depression and their locomotives especially suffered greatly from zinc pest, so examples are somewhat tough to find today.

Shown below are two Fandor pieces of rolling stock, a Shell Tanker and a somewhat unusual car which does not seem to me to have a common name.  Its a gondola but it has high stake sides where the stakes are kept from expanding too far outward by being connected by chains ( yes one chain is missing).  So I guess I will call it a gondola/stake car.

OBTW Bob I loved the KMT space train, especially the floating ball over the top.  Neat!

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Best Wishes everyone, hope your week goes well

Don

Don - I love the history lessons you teach us .. in this thread and others on which you post!  The Dofan history is most interesting.  Thanks for sharing your expert knowledge.  

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In keeping with the motor vehicle transport, here is a RailKing special run for the Community Model Railroad Club, Frostburg Maryland.  It must have been in 2017, since that is the car number.  The car is named 'Cumberland’.  I should have gotten the similar black flatcar named ‘Frostburg’ that they offered at the same time.

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Thanks for turning the brake wheel counter clockwise to get us rolling today Bob!   Really nice space train set you have there!  

My show and tell for today:

1.) Weaver 50 ton two bay hopper which I weathered.  

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2. ) A MTH RailKing gondola with junk load which I also weathered.

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Patrick,

That is some outstanding weathering.

Lou N

@Apples55 posted:

Based on recent lumber prices, here is an absolute fortune on wheels from Lawn-guy-lind’s own NLOE…

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Paul, in line with your comment, awhile ago I was sitting at a crossing in Red Bank NJ waiting for NJT to pass when a freight showed up on the second track. It was a weekly occurrence running through Farmingdale, heading to a lumberyard in Lakewood. I counted how many packs of 4x8s were on each car; and added up the cars. Using an HD price that train was worth over a million dollars.

A long coal train and a PRR passenger train pass each other on the main line.

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The mainline is busy with both freight and passenger trains.

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A PRR passenger train passes a string of gondolas waiting to be unloaded at the scrap yard

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Randy not to be picky😜 I see scrap,  a coal train and a passenger train. Did the gondolas do a dump and run?

Well everyone seems to be using "lumber transport" today, so here are 3 variations on how the RR moves lumber from 3 different makers of toy trains

The American Flyer pre- war S scale but O gauge #482 log car... This is a Gilbert Car from the early days of American Flyer's move from Chicago to New Haven, Conn in 1938.  After the war, all these cars were fully S gauge and scale.  Note that the car number is inscribed on one of the logs and the retaining straps are made from custom bent sheet metal.

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HWN of Germany made this "log car" in the 1950's  but its all an illusion, this is really a flat car with the picture of a log pile on top.  There is no height to this pile of logs, quite a visual effect.

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Finally a Marx version of a flat car hauling lumber.  This one carries the A.C.L. (Atlantic Coast Line) livery.

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It's Monday, It’s time for Rolling Stock Monday 3/9/25. Let’s see all your Rolling Stock other than boxcars and beer reefers. Please post within the forum guidelines in the TOS.

For this Monday I'm showing rolling stock that Lights up the RR. The 820 with twin lights looks good on the bridge; but I couldn't include it on the train because of the hook couplers. I also have the 2420 and 6420 work cabooses with search lights the 2420 has sliding shoes, nuf said . The 6420 had a bad bulb.

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@Apples55 posted:

I don’t have any searchlight cars, but here is a homage to PP&L (aka Pennsylvania Power & Light) - the company which has lit and powered my layout (and house) for the last 30 years!!! It is one of 3 very heavy diecast hoppers (almost 2.5 ponds each). Sorry… this has to be one of my worst pictures

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Well good morning everyone !  RSM is kicking off here in Central Texas and the day is sunny and bright after nearly 3 days of mist and fog.  Here is a classic post war Lionel, from 1957-1960, it was a Christmas present from my wife a few years ago.  It is the Lionel 6801 "Boat on a Flat Car".  This has the original boat, "6801-60" molded into the hull casting on the inside of the passenger compartment.  This yellow hull is the original but they also came with blue hulls. I am pleased to say that everything on this car is original, including the retention strap in "springy" metal.  Not bad for 68 years old!

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Best Wishes everyone, hope your week goes well

Don

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Well good morning everyone !  RSM is kicking off here in Central Texas and the day is sunny and bright after nearly 3 days of mist and fog.  Here is a classic post war Lionel, from 1957-1960, it was a Christmas present from my wife a few years ago.  It is the Lionel 6801 "Boat on a Flat Car".  This has the original boat, "6801-60" molded into the hull casting on the inside of the passenger compartment.  This yellow hull is the original but they also came with blue hulls. I am pleased to say that everything on this car is original, including the retention strap in "springy" metal.  Not bad for 68 years old!

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Best Wishes everyone, hope your week goes well

Don

Nice, Don. That car seemed to be included in every set back in the day. Not a great pic, but I won’t be able to get a better shot for a couple of days. The top shelf is my brother’s first (and only) train while the lower shelf has my first (of very many) train. My brother’s looks like a 6801, but mine has no number visible. Like yours, everything on these cars is original equipment - I don’t remember if either car came with a springy metal strap!!! You may notice a plastic tube coming out of the rear of my car. There were some pills that you put in the tube and, when placed in water, it made the boat zip along (I am missing the cap to the tube ).

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On this Rolling Stock Monday pennsyfan (Bob) has asked me to step in as Bob won't be online today.

Its Monday, it's time for Rolling Stock Monday 3/17/25. Let's see all your Rolling Stock other than boxcars and beer reefers. Please post within the forum guidelines in the TOS.

To start off this Monday I'm posting Lionel #16242 Grand Trunk Auto Carrier from 1993. Lets see what you have out on your layout God Speed All have a good week!

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