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Really wishing someone offered an upgrade for the Lionel Docksider to command/couplers/ and sound. Since it doesn't seem like it is gonna happen, What are some of the smaller switchers for the steam early diesel era that are out there? I know Kline made a nice looking 0-4-0 A5 PRR switcher. I don't think it had cruise though.

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I have the Lionel Docksider and the MTH 0-4-0 Docksider converted to TMCC using the ERR Mini Commander.  The MTH has electrocouplers on both ends as they were a drop-in replacement for the stock couplers.  The Lionel just has the rear, as it was a PITA to install them on that, lots of surgery on the frame.  I decided against doing the front for that reason.

Originally Posted by chuck:

Cruise control on a yard switcher?  ERR board has extended speed range but no "cruise"

Depends on which board we're talking about.  Obviously, the Cruise Commander offers cruise.

 

If you're referring to my conversions, I never said those two docksiders had cruise, clearly with the Mini Commander 2 in them, they do not.  If there was a product that would have allowed me to put cruise in them, I would have.

Originally Posted by SantaFe158:
Cruise can be added fairly easily with an ERR cruise commander M kit

I'm not sure it would be that easy. The cruise M board is longer than a DCDR and only fits in the larger B6 with a lot of modifications. K-Line cruise is even bigger. Both the board and the taller speed sensor on the motor.

ERR cruise is a nice addition on any engine though even on a switcher as low speed running is greatly enhanced.

Pete

I just bought an ERR DC Commander (not Cruise Commander) that I plan to put into

my favorite small switcher: the Lionel PW-style (that is, it's modern - can motor

and all) 0-4-0. You know, the PRR-style with slope-back tender. Electrocouplers

will be present, also. Sound? if there is room, but sound is not critical.

 

It's on the list - but I just finished ERR Cruise Commander-ing a Weaver brass Southern

Railway streamlined PS-4 Pacific, and I have a pair of Williams 0-27 FA-2's 

opened up and about to get the ERR treatment, and after that it's a MTH NYC P-2

2-C-C-2 box cab with dead PS-2 due for ERR Cruise Commander...so the little 0-4-0 will have to wait.

 

You know, when one can get a DC Commander for $60.00, and it costs $40.00

or so for a new, basic electronic reversing unit, why not command? 

Originally Posted by D500:

I just bought an ERR DC Commander (not Cruise Commander) that I plan to put into

my favorite small switcher: the Lionel PW-style (that is, it's modern - can motor

and all) 0-4-0. You know, the PRR-style with slope-back tender. Electrocouplers

will be present, also. Sound? if there is room, but sound is not critical.

 

I was able to intall TMCC and sound in one of these a few years ago using an ERR Beep Commander and a Sound Commander. With what is available today it would be tough. I think you would have to choose one or the other.

 

Pete

Originally Posted by Norton:
Originally Posted by SantaFe158:
Cruise can be added fairly easily with an ERR cruise commander M kit

I'm not sure it would be that easy. The cruise M board is longer than a DCDR and only fits in the larger B6 with a lot of modifications. K-Line cruise is even bigger. Both the board and the taller speed sensor on the motor.

ERR cruise is a nice addition on any engine though even on a switcher as low speed running is greatly enhanced.

Pete

You overstate the case Pete.  The CCM is less than 1/10" longer than the standard DCDR, and I've stuck them in at least half a dozen small steamers.  I'll admit that on a couple I had to do a little surgery on the heatsink, but I have yet to see one that they won't fit into.

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