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Great kick off for this TET  Bill. 

A great looking model too.  You have to have this on a rail somewhere doing an excavation .

I don't know if it will depreciate the value but this would make one heck of a great weathering project .

Thanks for sharing.

Thanks, Dallas! I think it would look great weathered too, but I just don't have the skill needed to do it. And I've seen quite a few great weathering jobs here on the forum.

Well, I don't have anything dramatic for today but I thought it might be fun to dramatize the "Lionel vs American Flyer" conflict that raged all through my boyhood (40's and 50's) - I started high school in 1958.  I decided to use the one car that at the time was on EVERY Freight train...the caboose!  In the golden era of toy trains, neither Lionel or Flyer would sell a freight train without a caboose.  I decided to use some from my collection and I picked sort of "run of the mill" cars as these are the ones that had the greatest population in the customer base.  So here is a simple comparison of the LIonel LInes # 6017 SP type caboose and the American Flyer #24603 center cupola caboose.

1. Both were made and offered in the 1950's.  The Lionel from 1951-1961. The Flyer is labeled "Blt 6-51" however it has automatic knuckle couplers which would most likely date it 1953 or later.

2. Neither came with window inserts or illumination

3 The Lionel has only 1 automatic coupler the Flyer has 2

4. The Lionel has maroon paint and the Flyer is a more traditional red with the color in the casting

5. Both have add on end railings as just about the only additional detail beyond the casting.

6. Both are labeled with their manufacturer as the "railroad" they come from.

Here is the maroon (painted) Lionel #6017

Lionel 6017 caboose

Here is the American Flyer 24603 red cast caboose.  Note that it does say Blt 6-51 however this example has two automatic knuckle couplers, which would date it post 1953.  Flyer first installed knuckle couplers in 1952 but only on their top end trains, by 1953 it was being installed on much more of the full line. This car was hardly Flyer's top caboose so I assume it would not have qualified for knuckle's in 1952.

American Flyer 24603 caboose

Note the two pictures above illustrate the weakness of presenting photographic comparisons.  In pictures virtually everything is the same size.  To show the size comparison of "0" vs "S" gauge, the picture below pictures them both on the same track (obviously the Flyer caboose is balanced on the rail as best I could make it fit).

Lionel and Flyer caboose side

So there you are, two classic (and relatively common) Tail End cars from the two major manufacturers of the day.  Both good solid products reflecting the individual companies product choices.

Yes I know that its Wednesday...yesterday was driving rain,doctor's appointments, and sick teen's so my post is late.  Hope that is ok with you all and you enjoy the above.

Best Wishes

Don

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Well what do you know, last week I was a day late and today I seem to be early (just following Sitka!)  We are practically closed down here in Central Texas, winter rain, ice, and freezing temperatures have shut schools and offices.  The highway near our house is blocked off by the police as being too slippery to use ( I passed by on a side road and saw numerous cars all over the place, looked like a demolition derby).  So here I sit, trapped at home, with nothing to do but post trains ( OH WELL)

So starting on my "tail ends" today, here is the Lionel, Southern RR wood sheathed caboose, #17601 from 1988.  Posing with one of my 2 beautiful Raritan River Rail Road box cars ( thanks to Tom Market!)

Lionel 17601 So Caboose and RR box

Here is an "oldie" for sure, the Lionel LInes # 6357 from 1948-1953.  Like the real railroads, the Leonardtown and Savannah never parts with any rolling stock that is still useful   ! Its on the section of the main, bordering the main highway from Small Town to the city and trailing a Lionel #81202 Santa Fe tanker from 2014-2015.

Lionel 6357 caboose and SF tanker

Well best wishes for a great week everyone.  They have already closed the schools here tomorrow as well so I guess its stay at home for  now.

Don

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@Sitka , I used to have one of those beautiful red cabooses, and it’s a beauty, and  your layout looks great to, thanks for leading us off today, @Don McErlean, better late than never, (that’s in the past)  and Yes, the two rail - three rail war was a fun one, I remember the America Flyer fellows knocking the realism of Lionel’s third rail…. Oh well, we all had fun with those post war trains. Happy Railroading Everyone 3977B678-EF75-4313-B7E6-16EB2571E90C72201FAA-3F86-47C0-B3A6-C18278189E004C6E6BD3-C6BB-4351-B4BA-CDA67BF05D5398EF67AE-1561-4521-B225-4A6B7CEFB1F5

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@Sitka , I used to have one of those beautiful red cabooses, and it’s a beauty, and  your layout looks great to, thanks for leading us off today, @Don McErlean, better late than never, (that’s in the past)  and Yes, the two rail - three rail war was a fun one, I remember the America Flyer fellows knocking the realism of Lionel’s third rail…. Oh well, we all had fun with those post war trains. Happy Railroading Everyone 3977B678-EF75-4313-B7E6-16EB2571E90C72201FAA-3F86-47C0-B3A6-C18278189E004C6E6BD3-C6BB-4351-B4BA-CDA67BF05D5398EF67AE-1561-4521-B225-4A6B7CEFB1F5

Thanks Larry still looking for the brown caboose. Top of the line layout you have!! Mark

@Dallas Joseph, thank you for the kind words, especially about smoke making this old man looking younger, that’s really Will2026, Captain William Porath running his first run VisionLine 4014 Big Boy around the layout with the smoke on high, it was lots of fun, and lots of smoke…. @trumpettrain, your scene with the men at work unloading the pick up truck looks so real, and @Don McErlean, wow, I understand about your weather, it’s here in middle Tennessee now, and possibly the wind blew the newspaper out of your nice Lionel News Stands fellows hand? Just a little humor, and that’s a beautiful red caboose, stay warm, I appreciate all of the likes and kind words, Happy Railroading Everyone 1AFAC7DF-B2EA-432F-9103-749FFCAE2FB385B08297-7543-443D-ABCB-73C9FBF3967D44CF877D-B602-41B6-8B79-E1B666D2576D

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HAPPY  TET  all.

A tail from the V- Express Steam Train.   ( still can't find traction tires for it.   )     ( 1:32 scale )

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Judy bought this for me 2 years ago from Amazon .

  After 538 pieces of laser cut tiny plywood ( no glue needed ) it was finished.  It was operational in forward and reverse as well as operating clam shell firebox doors , cab roof vents , cab doors ,  engineer step down and fold up  ladder, opening tender coal door and levered opening sides of tender.                   My kit was made on 1 / 30 / 2019 . ( she also bought me a Hurdy Gurdy kit that you can also play.........she didn't recognize " ODE TO JOY " when I played it. )

Made by U Gears (  Ukrainian Gears LLC )in Kyiv Region ,Ukraine .   You tube has videos of  operation and on the construction.     The company has many different kits.   ( not for the all thumbs crowd )   

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HAPPY  TET  all.

A tail from the V- Express Steam Train.   ( still can't find traction tires for it.   )     ( 1:32 scale )

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Judy bought this for me 2 years ago from Amazon .

  After 538 pieces of laser cut tiny plywood ( no glue needed ) it was finished.  It was operational in forward and reverse as well as operating clam shell firebox doors , cab roof vents , cab doors ,  engineer step down and fold up  ladder, opening tender coal door and levered opening sides of tender.                   My kit was made on 1 / 30 / 2019 . ( she also bought me a Hurdy Gurdy kit that you can also play.........she didn't recognize " ODE TO JOY " when I played it. )

Made by U Gears (  Ukrainian Gears LLC )in Kyiv Region ,Ukraine .   You tube has videos of  operation and on the construction.     The company has many different kits.   ( not for the all thumbs crowd )   

Pretty sharp Dallas WTG!

Well hello everyone, its T.E.T. again and tonight in Central Texas after 2 days of sun and balmy temperatures its cold and raining like mad...which is OK as our reservoir lake is down 17 feet from normal and they are talking about severe water restrictions, so maybe this will help.

Today I have a favorite of mine.  You know that Marx, like most manufacturers favored Sear's Robuck and Co, a huge customer, by providing them with trains that not only were different from the consumer catalog but in the case of Sears...came in a special livery carrying the Sears label..."Allstate".

So here is the #2225 Allstate Bay Window caboose from 1958.  It was also offered in 1959 but the color was blue.

Marx Allstate caboose

Happy Tuesday everyone

Don

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Wow, there’s so many great pictures showing our beautiful back sides of our beautiful trains. When you think about it, front ends are fun, but we much watch our backs…@Steve Papa Eastman, I like that beautiful blue Sante Fe caboose, cool snd your layout is very unique to, a beautiful Hellgate bridge…So, I’m a day late, a dollar short, but here’s my Tale end for review. Happy Railroading Everyone 67F6824B-F6CE-4753-A1CF-1A80550AD43E2C423575-1340-4458-B74C-8BA0E313165BD5FBBD26-F596-4574-892D-9AE1F71097A5BBD3E43F-9CAE-4C56-8339-BF68BE181AD580E36DA1-EF2B-4821-84D8-C0ECC0AFC022AB4FC325-10AA-43C0-B3B6-F82D5E0B92EBE8B580A4-A5EF-4BCB-ADFA-38CB52ED272C47973283-DDA9-4DE4-8E5E-0827359C8B64

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Well hello everyone, its T.E.T. again and tonight in Central Texas after 2 days of sun and balmy temperatures its cold and raining like mad...which is OK as our reservoir lake is down 17 feet from normal and they are talking about severe water restrictions, so maybe this will help.

Today I have a favorite of mine.  You know that Marx, like most manufacturers favored Sear's Robuck and Co, a huge customer, by providing them with trains that not only were different from the consumer catalog but in the case of Sears...came in a special livery carrying the Sears label..."Allstate".

So here is the #2225 Allstate Bay Window caboose from 1958.  It was also offered in 1959 but the color was blue.

Marx Allstate caboose

Happy Tuesday everyone

Don

Geeez Don.......one of these days you are going to have to share all of your inventory with photos with us.

Every time I see one of your unique pieces I have to wonder how you have amssed such a large collection.

Dallas, thank you...Glad you enjoyed the picture.  I amassed my rather varied collection by having both sons and a grandson who liked trains, so we went to a lot of train shows / antique shows/ collectable shows and I never forgot to look "under" the tables.  I had a wife who loved antique oak furniture (we had a business refinishing same for awhile) so we "dragged" ourselves to a lot of flea markets ... and I always was on the lookout for trains .  

Best wishes and thank you again for your comments

Don

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