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Originally Posted by Ray of sunshine:

Looking to upgrade a Williams E7 with a passenger pilot and a diaphram. Wet to P&D but hard to tell what looks right and what will fit as there are no photos.

 

Would appreciate any suggestions.

 

Thanks,

RAY

P&D has them, if you are unsure, simply call them and tell the person what you are trying to up-grade. I used on of their enclosed from pilots for my Williams E7A lead unit.

Hey guys, how about giving me some more info on P&D or at least a emailing address, as I'm wanting to do the same with a pair of Williams E-7 L&N A units. I now have life in the dummy A unit, and would like to do what you guys did with the pilot and diaphram's..........................Thanks in Advance...............................Brandy! 

Thanks for all the replies. I will give P&D a call. As for the pilots they have listed, all of them say for an "F" unit, not an "E". So does any know if the F pilot will match the E series engines and will they work on a Williams, which I know are not scale. 

 

Don't want to do any major cutting and rebuilding of the E7 body to make the F pilot fit.

 

RAY

Originally Posted by Ray of sunshine:

Thanks for all the replies. I will give P&D a call. As for the pilots they have listed, all of them say for an "F" unit, not an "E". So does any know if the F pilot will match the E series engines and will they work on a Williams, which I know are not scale. 

 

Here is the P&D "closed door" pilot on the front of my Williams E7A unit.

 

 

 

Don't want to do any major cutting and rebuilding of the E7 body to make the F pilot fit.

 

RAY

 

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Originally Posted by Hot Water:

       
Originally Posted by Ray of sunshine:

Thanks for all the replies. I will give P&D a call. As for the pilots they have listed, all of them say for an "F" unit, not an "E". So does any know if the F pilot will match the E series engines and will they work on a Williams, which I know are not scale. 

 

Here is the P&D "closed door" pilot on the front of my Williams E7A unit.

 

 

 

Don't want to do any major cutting and rebuilding of the E7 body to make the F pilot fit.

 

RAY

 

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HW,

Only one thing wrong with the Burlington Es...
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Oh, and they're not at my house!

Thanks,
Mario

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Don't want to do any major cutting and rebuilding of the E7 body to make the F pilot fit.

 

Ray, that may not be possible, depending on whether the anticlimber comes off your E7s or not AND whether the mating horizontal curves of the old and new pilots match.  Look at Santaigo's or Mario's posts, it shows what you might have to do.  Cutting the P&D pilot is fairly straight forward. making it match the curve may be a bit more work. 

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Originally Posted by John Sethian:

Don't want to do any major cutting and rebuilding of the E7 body to make the F pilot fit.

 

Ray, that may not be possible, depending on whether the anticlimber comes off your E7s or not AND whether the mating horizontal curves of the old and new pilots match.  Look at Santaigo's or Mario's posts, it shows what you might have to do.  Cutting the P&D pilot is fairly straight forward. making it match the curve may be a bit more work. 

 

No need to cut the shell, if you trim the pilot.  I easily trimmed the passenger pilot with a sharp pair of strong scissors.  Also, I didn't have to change the curve of the pilot, as they matched nearly perfectly!  Email me and I'll send you the little mounting frames that I made, no charge.  I have extra...

 

Check out my install here:

 

https://ogrforum.com/t...-pilot-for-lionel-f3

 

 

 

Thanks!

- Mario

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