4.30 software TIU/Remote

Bruce, all TIUs and remotes should be on the same version of the software.  As of yesterday, 4.3.1 has not yet been released.  So the latest version is 4.3.  Not all bugs or deficiencies have been fixed in/by 4.3.  I know of one, an interplay between smoke and lighting, that remains.

4.31 has had a long gestation period, we've been hearing that it fixes various things, but it's never been released.

We have been running 4.31 beta for a long time.  Hopefully the final release will be available very soon.  MTH is working on this guys.  The right release done right will be worth waiting for.  Please trust them.

I've had nothing but problems with the 4.30 upgrade, wished I'd stayed at 4.20. This is getting to be like Windows; never go for the .0 upgrades, wait for the fixes in .01 

Marty, I guess I have to wonder if you have had the beta for a long time, what's the holdup?  How much of a beta test do they need before they feel it's ready for general release?  If for some reason folks had a significant issue with 4.31, they could always go back to 4.30 I would think.  At some point, you have to stop developing and ship the product.

Agreed.  We are just waiting for MTH to send the final.

We certainly are!

Marty, any word on whether the issued version will cure the smoke and light intereffect?

Guys,

Please stop asking questions about 4.31. When there's anything to say, it will be said.

Barry, you might as well try to hold back the sea.

Look carefully at Bruce's original question.  He was asking about 4.3.  He then referred to a gentleman from Florida, whose name I shan't mention, who raised 4.31.

Actually, the first post mentions 4.31.  I'm not sure why the demand that people stop asking questions, after a year or more, it's natural to be curious as to what happened to the next release.

GRJ, I corrected the typo, from 3.1 to 4.31.

I'm not sure why the demand that people stop asking questions, after a year or more, it's natural to be curious as to what happened to the next release.

Why? Because there is nothing to be said.

Come on, are you really so naive as to think that, if there was anything to report, that it wouldn't be reported?

Well what are the bugs that need to be fixed?? Headlight failure sometimes caused when  turning "on" the smoke.  I had it happen today using the "rev" up.

I think there maybe a problem adding engines with multiple tiu. Engines want to add to the lowest numbered tiu.

I don't have any proto-3 but after running in command mode engine must be "factory reset in conventional to get it to run?? 

 No stealth mode with proto 3?? correct or incorrect?

Anything else?

I don't have any proto-3 but after running in command mode engine must be "factory reset in conventional to get it to run??

No.

Headlight failure sometimes caused when  turning "on" the smoke.

Usually when turning off the smoke, headlights and other lights go out

 No stealth mode with proto 3?? correct or incorrect?

Possibly.  Selecting the loco and then rolling up throttle will activate startup.  Remains to be seen if a spurious signal will get it moving in stealth mode.

Sorry I brought up a sore subject.  I installed 4.20 on the TIU and remote that I purchased with 4.30 installed.

I will be a much happier camper now.

I don't think you should be sorry. The more we know the issues the better the chances of getting it fixed properly.

  I now noticed after running on the week end  (super mode)  that even blowing the whistle will sometimes  cause the head light to go out. BTW, 4.2 was one of the worse versions for super mode runners.( however for a single tiu it was great).  Maybe we should have a thread for know or suspected issues.

I thought I was imagining things down at the club. On occasion, the headlight would go out (single or MU'd locomotives). We're running 4.2 in Super TIU mode. I might have to arrange another "upgrade party" at the club.

I was having so many issues outside and I figured I really didn't know what I was doing. Three engines ran way too fast. New engines wouldn't add, etc.

SO...... IT's NOT ME!!! Yahoo!

and there it is. There's just a couple of guys that aren't having headaches ...constantly.

There are guys leaving. The loyal ones are sounding off here.

 This is an important release and maybe there's good reasons behind the scenes. I really think, it's going to cost more to wait.

Maybe I should go way back to 3.xx whenever my system worked without headaches and just a few bugs that were easy to remember. It feels like we're moving backwards.

 Guys want the 4.31 because they are having major issues. I don't care what you want to call it or what the reason is. This is getting old fast. Maybe it's too complex to keep bug free??

 I now know how Tommie Z felt. Maybe I'll go build a car too now.

Gregg,

Where ar you getting your information??

Headlight failure sometimes caused when  turning "on" the smoke.  I had it happen today using the "rev" up.

This bug has been around for several years, since the advent of DCS 4.20, not DCS 4.30. I believe that it's a Super mode only bug, however, I could be mistaken.

Regardless, it's on the list to be corrected in DCS 4.31.

I think there maybe a problem adding engines with multiple tiu. Engines want to add to the lowest numbered tiu.

Completely untrue and also impossible.

Engines always add to the TIU upon whose track they reside, in Normal or Super TIU mode. Always. They simply cannot add to any other TIU. Period.

I don't have any proto-3 but after running in command mode engine must be "factory reset in conventional to get it to run?? 

Absolutely not true.

No stealth mode with proto 3?? correct or incorrect?

This is not a bug. It's intentional and only with newer PS3 engines.

The handful of remaining bugs introduced with 4.30, that are not corrected in 4.31 beta, are all "noise level", and all have workarounds.

Joe,

There's just a couple of guys that aren't having headaches ...constantly.

Really? Did you conduct an official poll or survey?  

You may be having some issues and I know that misery likes company. However, why do you assume that you represent any kind of a majority in that regard? 

Well I don't really care about which tiu one can use to add engines. We add to our second tiu #1 (tethered) when necessary. We're in good shape. 4.3

However for discussions sake . What the heck is this...

https://ogrforum.com/t...44#43102465747414944

and this  https://ogrforum.com/t...abforward-won-t-move

Gregg,

However for discussions sake . What the heck is this...

https://ogrforum.com/t...44#43102465747414944

I expect that you're referring to the issue regarding TIUs having to be powered up if they're numbered less than the TIU to which you're adding the engine. (Note that when a TIU is tethered to a remote, this is not an issue at all.)

FirsThis isn't at all new with DCS 4.30. It's worked this way since 4.10 or so, or maybe even a bit earlier.

Regardless, what I stated on that thread is as follows:

It's confusing, since it's intermittent. It will appear to work sometimes and not others.

 

I'm not really certain that it can be classified as a "bug", per se. If there's a TIU in the remote, the remote expects to be able to find it. It's somewhat consistent with getting an error message if you query a TIU for it's DCS Version when the TIU isn't powered on. You will, properly, get an error message.

As regards this one...

and this  https://ogrforum.com/t...abforward-won-t-move

 

That is neither a DCS 4.30 issue, nor a DCS issue at all.