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Every now and then you come across a news story that highlights some interesting shift in the culture or society at large.  It might be something like a recent story a few weeks ago about how for the first timne in or nation's history the annual number of non-white births surpassed the number of babies of Caucasian background.  Or perhaps something like, for the first time ever the majority of graduates from U.S.-based law schools or medical schools are women (or was it incoming students!!?)  Then there's the always fascinating announcement of where the nation's "population center is -- that geographic point where, if every person weighed the same, you could "balance" the flat two-dimensional area of the U.S.  (In the late 1700's it started out in eastern Maryland.  Now it's somewhere in Missouri last I heard.)  

 

Usually, not always, but usually, milestones like these are noteworthy and meaningful because they signify a change that will never be reversed, at least not for quite a long time.  (When the country's population center shifted west of the Mississippi for the first time -- maybe in the 1950's -- that had to be a pretty big deal.  Who knows whether it will ever shift back eastward?)

 

Here in my own little train world, I reached an interesting milestone this week that vividly illustrates, to me anyway, how the hobby has changed since I was introduced to it about 53 years ago.  Like so many of you other baby boomers out there, as a young child I got a train set for Christmas.  Yes, the boxes were orange.  The trains ran around the tree at Christmas and disappeared into the attic the other 11 months of the year.  For all of my "train-centric" childhood years, this was all I knew.  As a kid who lived to flip baseball cards and rush out each month with my 25 cent allowance to buy the latest DC comics, I had no interest in or appreciation of toy trains' history or past, no awareness of the names Marx or Ives or any others.  Electric trains meant Lionel.  Period.

 

Fast forward to 2000 or 2001, when i re-enter the hobby.  I buy my own Lionel engines for the first time instead of relying on Santa.  Then one day i pick up a glossy train magazine and see ads from other companies that make model trains, like Atlas, MTH, Weaver and Williams.  And over the years my collection grows.  Not with any grand design, but guided only by the pure motivation of what catches my fancy.  A beautiful color-scheme.  A cool-looking diesel body type.  "Wow, a Soo F3 ABA set?  I'll take it!"  Not because it was a Williams.  Because I'd never seen such a set from anyone else (at least not for sale anywhere).  

 

This week I added a new set to my layout -- an MTH Minneapolis & St. Louis FT ABA set.  Great-looking engines.  So I go to my little inventory of motive power to add this to the list.  I do a little counting.  And I made the fascinating discovery that now, for the first time ever (really the last 11 years since I began buying trains...."first time ever" just sounds more dramatic!) my MTH engines (not including Rail Kings....just MTH Premier) now outnumber the Lionel engines in my collection.  How did this happen?  I'm not an "Orange Guy" or a "Purple Demagogue."  I don't have Legacy or DCS, so it's not driven by that.  I guess it shows how I like to see unusual roadnames in different diesel models.  It's just what appeals to me.  That's one of the great things about this hobby IMO...the variety of product and the number of differing approaches that various manufacturers take.  Something for everyone.  I just found it fascinating that I started out as someone who only knew the "dominant player," the name that was synonymous with electric trains for 100 years, and now another train company seems to make more of what I want.  And I wonder, like some of these other sociological milestones...is this something permanent?  I guess time will tell.  Time and whatever appears in the pages of the next catalogs that are published this fall and winter!  

 

- Mike

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It's only because they offered things you were interested in. I started out about the same way. Only buying Lionel. Then started switching over to MTH because of the many choices.

Kept heading for a more scale look. Went from RailKing to Premier. When K-line started coming out with their scale engines I moved in that direction. 

Right now it's generally K-line scale for most but not all engines. Don't have a single Lionel on my layout. Most freight cars are from Atlas. Most passenger cars K-line. 

Mike, I think we get more picky as we progress into the hobby. 

Thanks for bringing this up. Don

I think that our trains, for many of us (I am a "war-baby",) enshrine a childhood for us that we know now - even somehow knew then - was unique and special. When I pick up a train or run one, now, I am reaching back and holding onto one of those moments-in-time. IMHO

I enjoyed reading every word you wrote, Mike, and admire you for sharing your thoughts. It's especially nice to understand that you could do so here and have your thoughts received well.

Frank

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That's a picture of it new

Got it in October of last year,at the end of the season

I'm on the east coast USA

Most of my riding is in Ocean City New Jersey,It's designed to ride as a kneeboard also

Our season is maybe May to end of Sept

Here's the first time it got wet in April,

That is my cousins son holding my skimboard also

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Thanks Mike for your thoughts here,  brings back some nice memories for sure...

My first train was an American Flyer K4 freight set. At just 5 1/2 years old  I remember being at a department store in downtown New  Orleans with my dad and we had been looking at the train displays. Although Lionel's was much larger with lots of accessories and several loops, the 2 rail track caught my eye and we watched some Flyer trains running too.

That was Christmas of 1949 and that morning I was glad that Santa also liked 2 rail track!

Thanks to everyone who had the patience to read through all that, and for the nice comments posted.  I didn't even think of this as a story, per se.  I was just trying to share the observation of how your world can be creeping towards a permanent change sometimes and you're not even aware of the change until it happens.   In this cae, of course, it's a very trivial matter....the makeup of your toy train collection.  But it struck me as interesting nonetheless.  

 

- Mike

Funny hobby. Everyone is in it for their own reasons. Personally, I only own Lionel, and have been subject to the condescending tomes on how foolish this approach is and how much I am shortchanging myself. I imagine that would be true if I was in the hobby to run realistic trains. However, I am more attracted to the nostalgia factor and I enthusiastically enjoy the trains made by Lionel in the 1940's, 50's and 60's. I run everything I own and the bulk of my fleet is comprised of trains from my own family.

 

I think visitors also enjoy this aspect - at least non-train hobbyist visitors. Friends and family head straight for the train room to see what new progress has been made on building a layout representative of the 1940's. Most of these visitors will have their own Lionel (or even AF) story of trains at Christmas. "We had trains like these. Wow - they still work. Do you put those little pills in and get smoke?" Long and pleasant chats spring from ten minutes in the train room. 

 

Modern train hobbyists can't get out of the room fast enough however, but most will only do so after issuing a self-serving diatribe about how I don't know what I'm missing by not buying MTH or Atlas or new Lionel. And where are the sounds? "They're right here, as I give them a blast from a good old 50's air whistle - the one that sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. 

 

We all have our reasons, similar to why we all don't like the same foods, have the same taste in music, literature or cinema, or why we're all not married to the same woman.

Hey Harry, You certainly made a well-reasoned case for your point of view/approach to our hobby. I respect you for the succinct, reasonable statement here of your preferences and approach. And of course, I like how your layout stays true to its circa and "mission statement," with its admirable element of realism integral to it all.

Frank 

Where I live, Caucasians are steadily being replaced by Asians(Chinese, East Indians...) Your comments re: births seems realistic.

 

Also, more women seem to be in supervisory positions in the workforce, so females must be attending post secondary institutions... in greater numbers.

 

Re: the trains:

 

Lionel was stagnant when I entered O gauge in 2004, and MTH was pumping out good looking, well-priced equipment... with more variety.

 

 

Rick

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mike,

 

Great story.  I have mostly Lionel but a few MTH and RMT.  I also buy what I like and not too brand loyal.

 

Joe,

 

Great pictures.  I've been trying to find a picture of my childhood set for a while now.  I've bothered every relative I know who took pictures but no success.   I can't for the life of me completely visualize what engine we had.  I know we have a ZW, post war steamer and tender, pre-war tin-plate engine, gondola and milk car.  I'd love to recreate the set.  My father was a sell something off kind of guy once it was no longer used so the trains were gone when I hit my teenage years,.

 

Chris

The switch has clicked on my hobby milestone a number of times.  The same experience as you with Lionel trains early led me to be a large postwar collector.  The first switch started in the 1970's when my MPC collection started to overtake the postwar items.  The 1990's were probably the biggest milestone for me as the purchase of a Weaver E8 started me off as more of an operator than a collector.  This thing called ebay started the big selloff of all of my postwar and MPC ( what I thought was collectible ) items in exchange for more scale sized operational items.

My inventory of trains today has items from Lionel, MTH, Atlas, Williams, ETS, Weaver, RMT, and K-Line.  I never stopped to figure which company has the majority of my inventory but I do know I run them all.  I have been running MTH more than others because of operational issues with TMCC at the club.  This certainly has been a big change for the better for me as I love running trains more than sitting them collect dust on a display shelf.

The thing I like, reflected in Mike's story and others, is how this hobby is so nationalistic. You guys love the American tradition, the Brits love theirs, most of the old guys at my club only run Australian. It's a very big part of what I love about model trains, and why I have  stuff from everywhere. That's why I have at least 14 different brands, no make that 17, but I'm sure I'll think of a few more. Actually let's say over 20.

Thanks to all for your stories.

I could get along more than adequately forever with nothing but Lionel.  But brand loyalty is not really the reason I have been buying mostly Lionel -- the reason I buy almost exclusively Lionel is: nobody else is making scale steam locos with sound except 3rd Rail, and I don't do brass . . . 

 

The only MTH I bought in the last year is a 241.A steamer from their European series - they aren't delivering anything else I want at the moment.  Meanwhile, Lionel keeps knocking out locos I have to have: Hudsons and Challengers and Atlantics and Moguls and different Pacifics and Shifters and Shays and Berkshires and Yellowstones and Northerns  . . . . 

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