MELGAR posted:Paul,
When I get home on Monday, I will post a list of the New Haven named trains for you.
MELGAR
Thank you Sir!!!
Note: This is a list of New Haven Railroad named passenger trains. It mostly gives only the train names and not the types of cars in the consists or other details. That information is too lengthy to be presented here. If you’re interested in further information on a particular train, it can be found in the book “New Haven Passenger Trains,” by Peter E. Lynch.
The Five Hour Express (1894 with Parlor Cars, Buffet Smoking Car, New York/Boston)
Most of the following trains ran between New York and Boston on the Shore Line. The most important had parlor cars, dining or grill cars, and coaches. Some trains also ran to Philadelphia and Washington, DC in conjunction with the PRR and also had PRR cars in the consist.
Day Express - Knickerbocker - Bay State - Afternoon Express - Shore Line Express - Merchants’ Limited - Yankee Clipper - Gilt Edge - Sundown - Pershing Square - Mayflower - Murray Hill - Bostonian - 42nd Street - Puritan - New Yorker - Commander
Colonial - Federal - Senator - Patriot - Air Line Limited - Advance Merchants’ Limited
Owl - Narragansett - Night Express (all coaches) - Night Hawk (sleepers)
The following trains ran along the 62-mile route from New Haven to Hartford and Springfield Massachusetts:
Bankers - Nathan Hale - Connecticut Yankee - Montrealer - Washingtonian
MELGAR
MELGAR posted:Note: This is a list of New Haven Railroad named passenger trains. It mostly gives only the train names and not the types of cars in the consists or other details. That information is too lengthy to be presented here. If you’re interested in further information on a particular train, it can be found in the book “New Haven Passenger Trains,” by Peter E. Lynch.
The Five Hour Express (1894 with Parlor Cars, Buffet Smoking Car, New York/Boston)
Most of the following trains ran between New York and Boston on the Shore Line. The most important had parlor cars, dining or grill cars, and coaches. Some trains also ran to Philadelphia and Washington, DC in conjunction with the PRR and also had PRR cars in the consist.
Day Express - Knickerbocker - Bay State - Afternoon Express - Shore Line Express - Merchants’ Limited - Yankee Clipper - Gilt Edge - Sundown - Pershing Square - Mayflower - Murray Hill - Bostonian - 42nd Street - Puritan - New Yorker - Commander
Colonial - Federal - Senator - Patriot - Air Line Limited - Advance Merchants’ Limited
Owl - Narragansett - Night Express (all coaches) - Night Hawk (sleepers)
The following trains ran along the 62-mile route from New Haven to Hartford and Springfield Massachusetts:
Bankers - Nathan Hale - Connecticut Yankee - Montrealer - Washingtonian
MELGAR
MELGAR:
I have been looking forward to this list. Is it intended to be comprehensive?
If yes, I'm wondering where the "Roger Williams*" and the "Narragansett Special**" might be.
Thanks for your list, regardless. I haven't been on here in a while but these are all great posts.
Steven J. Serenska
*Short-lived lightweight train
** The "Narragansett Special ran from GCT to Narragansett Park to bring riders/bettors to see a horse race of the same name.
P.S. The forum software keeps altering my link. if this make sense to you, please change the "[" in the URL to be "(" and the link will work. For some reason Hoopla is not saving it as I'm entering it "en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Williams_(train)"
MELGAR posted:Note: This is a list of New Haven Railroad named passenger trains. It mostly gives only the train names and not the types of cars in the consists or other details. That information is too lengthy to be presented here. If you’re interested in further information on a particular train, it can be found in the book “New Haven Passenger Trains,” by Peter E. Lynch.
Most of the following trains ran between New York and Boston on the Shore Line. The most important had parlor cars, dining or grill cars, and coaches. Some trains also ran to Philadelphia and Washington, DC in conjunction with the PRR and also had PRR cars in the consist.
Day Express - Knickerbocker - Bay State - Afternoon Express - Shore Line Express - Merchants’ Limited - Yankee Clipper - Gilt Edge - Sundown - Pershing Square - Mayflower - Murray Hill - Bostonian - 42nd Street - Puritan - New Yorker - Commander
Colonial - Federal - Senator - Patriot - Air Line Limited - Advance Merchants’ Limited
Owl - Narragansett - Night Express (all coaches) - Night Hawk (sleepers)
MELGAR
Thanks so much MELGAR. Just ordered the book. Definitely going to go with a NYC - Boston train... got to find a spot for my small Grand Central and Hellgate Bridge.
Oh well, in for a penny, in for a pound - a couple more additions to the New Haven picture gallery
Bing
Ives
New Marx - Prototype
Fandor
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Serenska posted:MELGAR:
I have been looking forward to this list. Is it intended to be comprehensive?
If yes, I'm wondering where the "Roger Williams*" and the "Narragansett Special**" might be.
** The "Narragansett Special ran from GCT to Narragansett Park to bring riders/bettors to see a horse race of the same name.
Steve,
My list was not intended to be absolutely comprehensive but I inadvertently omitted the 1950s era lightweight trains Roger Williams, Dan'l Webster and John Quincy Adams. Lynch mentions some other named trains which ran to Maine, including the Portland Night Express and the State of Maine but makes no mention of the Narragansett Special that I can find. I hesitate to guarantee that there weren't others I have not included.
MELGAR
MELGAR posted:Serenska posted:MELGAR:
I have been looking forward to this list. Is it intended to be comprehensive?
If yes, I'm wondering where the "Roger Williams*" and the "Narragansett Special**" might be.
** The "Narragansett Special ran from GCT to Narragansett Park to bring riders/bettors to see a horse race of the same name.
Steve,
My list was not intended to be absolutely comprehensive but I inadvertently omitted the 1950s era lightweight trains Roger Williams, Dan'l Webster and John Quincy Adams. Lynch mentions some other named trains which ran to Maine, including the Portland Night Express and the State of Maine but makes no mention of the Narragansett Special that I can find. I hesitate to guarantee that there weren't others I have not included.
MELGAR
MELGAR:
Thanks for clarifying.
I only know about the Narragansett Special because 1-2 years ago, someone on eBay offered a marketing placard from 1938 for the train. It was a great art deco piece and would have looked fantastic framed in the train room. Unfortunately, the seller's buy-it-now asking price was a bit too high for me. Someone else did purchase it, however.
I wish I had copied the photos of it. The ad copy on the poster was just fantastic. It extolled the air conditioning in the coaches and the presence of a bar car on the train in both directions. There were words to the effect that patronizing the bar car would pump up a bettor's enthusiasm on the ride up and console him for his losses on the way home.
I still kick myself for being such a cheap-o and not buying it.
Steven J. Serenska
A little more research reveals that the train was called the "'Gansett Special" ... which I sort of remembered from the placard I didn't purchase, but I wasn't 100% sure. Here is more info from the New Haven Railroad Historical and Technical Association website:
- http://www.nhrhta.org/htdocs/images0299.htm, especially:
- The Narragansett park trains were covered in Volume 22, Issue 2 1991 of "The Shoreliner" (the NHRHTA magazine)
- Apparently, there was also an unrelated overnight train named "The Narragansett": http://www.nhrhta.org/htdocs/images0203.htm
SJS
MODELSTRAINSPARTS,
Not sure of the answer to your question but nice work on the Osgood Bradley grill car model.
MELGAR
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The FL-9s had been parked in the Metro-North (formerly New Haven Railroad) Lamberton Street Yard in New Haven. I occasionally walked along Cedar street and could see the FL-9s at the far side of the yard. I think there may be one or two still there. Hope they're being preserved.
MELGAR
briansilvermustang posted:
July 30, 2019 MELGAR removed photo.
I'm waiting for MTH to offer its GE 44 Tonner in the earlier orange hood/black (?) cab New Haven paint scheme - so I can spend some more money....
MELGAR
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briansilvermustang posted:July 30, 2019 MELGAR removed photo.
The three models are New Haven Railroad C-Liner #793 by MTH, ALCO PA #0771 by Sunset/3rd Rail, and ALCO DL-109 #0719 by MTH. To me, it was an impressive railroad.
MELGAR
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nice engines and photo Melgar !!
Picked this up from Amazon... thanks MELGAR!!! Have just had time for a cursory glance, but looks fascinating.
On the positive side, I now know for sure that there was a NH train called the Hell Gate Express (love that name) - on the down side, not too much info on details, but might be from the days before the Osgood Bradley cars. More research is definitely in order...
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Apples55 posted:Picked this up from Amazon... thanks MELGAR!!! Have just had time for a cursory glance, but looks fascinating.
On the positive side, I now know for sure that there was a NH train called the Hell Gate Express (love that name) - on the down side, not too much info on details, but might be from the days before the Osgood Bradley cars. More research is definitely in order...
Another real good book is "NH Color Guide to Freight and Passenger Equipment" by David R. Sweetland and Stephan Horsley. I think you can get it on Amazon too. Also look up "The New Haven Railroad's Electrified Zone" by Robert A. Liljestrand with Richard Abramson for more.
phoch00 posted:Apples55 posted:Picked this up from Amazon... thanks MELGAR!!! Have just had time for a cursory glance, but looks fascinating.
On the positive side, I now know for sure that there was a NH train called the Hell Gate Express (love that name) - on the down side, not too much info on details, but might be from the days before the Osgood Bradley cars. More research is definitely in order...
Another real good book is "NH Color Guide to Freight and Passenger Equipment" by David R. Sweetland and Stephan Horsley. I think you can get it on Amazon too. Also look up "The New Haven Railroad's Electrified Zone" by Robert A. Liljestrand with Richard Abramson for more.
Thanks Paul... I’ll have to check those out.
Some pics from my visit to the Danbury Railway Museum yesterday...
Wouldn’t want to be the carpenter who had to build all of these!!!
Here is a link to a topic with other pics from my visit:
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Found these on Amazon... luckily, it’s supposed to be very rainy tomorrow, so I have plenty of reading material for after I vote...
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briansilvermustang posted:July 30, 2019 MELGAR removed photo.
The location of this one has me stumped!
MELGAR
found it... http://www.railphoto-art.org/c...lection/new-haven/#!
New York, New Haven and Hartford Alco RS-3 diesel-electric locomotive no. 532 , with Alco DL-109 in stall, at Dover Street turntable, Boston, Massachusetts,
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Anyone know where a powered 3 Rail NH FL-9 can be found for sale? I've looked everywhere for them.
The New Haven Railroad has always been very important to me in my childhood of the late 50’s and early 60’s. I’m from central Connecticut and our house was by the Hartford Branch main line. We had a siding go through our back yard that serviced a factory several miles away with coal. I still remember the NH switcher pushing several coal cars past our house. They would always sound there horn when they rode by because the engineer knew my brothers and I enjoyed it.
Ray
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briansilvermustang posted:July 30, 2019 MELGAR removed photo
Brian’s posts keep me busy photographing my New Haven model locomotives! It’s OK Brian – keep it up!
Brian’s photo appears to have been taken at New Haven motor storage between 1955 and 1960. An EMD FL-9 (road number illegible) is at the left of photo. Judging from the road number (?72) of the locomotive on the right, it is ALCO FA-1 472 (see my first photo below). My second photo has an ALCO PA-1 at right, but based on the grille details and road number (?72), the locomotive at right in Brian’s photo is not a PA-1.
I’m a little disappointed to see that MTH may not have the nose of the McGuiness FA-1/PA-1 paint schemes entirely correct. Actually, as I look at it now, Brian's photo has the red/orange and white bands reversed from MTH, and that is the reason for the difference. On the original McGuiness scheme, the white (side) band was at the bottom but quickly got dirty in service, so the locomotives were eventually repainted with the white band at the top and the red/orange band at the bottom - as per MTH.
MELGAR
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great photos and info MELGAR 
Atop the backs of benches in the main waiting room of New Haven (Connecticut) Union Station are display cases with model trains of the New Haven Railroad. They were donated in 2002 by Lawrence Scripps Wilkinson, a 1950 graduate of Yale College. The station itself is an edifice worthy of the once great New Haven Railroad.
MELGAR
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Apples55 posted:Found these on Amazon... luckily, it’s supposed to be very rainy tomorrow, so I have plenty of reading material for after I vote...
Could any of you folks that have these books tell me if there are any pictures of the NH business cars. I'm looking for a picture of Business car #3 also know as Meadowlark from it's SP days.
I would appreciate it. I have never found a picture of it and wondered if it might be in the books.
MELGAR posted:Atop the backs of benches in the main waiting room of New Haven (Connecticut) Union Station are display cases with model trains of the New Haven Railroad. They were donated in 2002 by Lawrence Scripps Wilkinson, a 1950 graduate of Yale College. The station itself is an edifice worthy of the once great New Haven Railroad.
MELGAR
Hey, Melgar:
Thanks for the info behind these. I always enjoy looking at them whenever I'm in Union Station. It's good to know the story of how they got there.
There are also O Gauge models in Penn Station in Newark, New Jersey. They're high on the wall just before you walk out of the platform area into the main waiting room (on the West Side of the station).
The only problem with the ones in Newark is that you have to stop in the middle of a heavily trafficked area and look way up to see them. I always get the feeling that, when I stop like that and expose my neck, someone's going to come up behind me, put me in a choke-hold, and relieve me of my wallet...
...He said...
...Only 25% kidding...
Steven J. Serenska
I have developed a strange love for New Haven, but please don't tell my western railroads (DRG&W, Santa Fe & Western Pacific). Can't explain it.
Chris S.
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CSX FAN posted:Apples55 posted:Found these on Amazon... luckily, it’s supposed to be very rainy tomorrow, so I have plenty of reading material for after I vote...
Could any of you folks that have these books tell me if there are any pictures of the NH business cars. I'm looking for a picture of Business car #3 also know as Meadowlark from it's SP days.
I would appreciate it. I have never found a picture of it and wondered if it might be in the books.
CSX;
I took a look, but no luck. The three volumes primarily show motive power. You’ve probably seen this, but this is the only reference I found on line:
briansilvermustang posted:July 30, 2019 MELGAR removed photo
In 1963, the bankrupt New Haven Railroad acquired 12 nearly new electric locomotives from the Norfolk & Western’s Virginian Railway at the bargain price of $300,000 total and used them to haul freight between Cedar Hill (New Haven) and Bay Ridge (Brooklyn). I'm appreciative of Mike Wolf and MTH for having made numerous models of New Haven Railroad locomotives.
MELGAR
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Melgar, As am I. But I still hold out hope for a RK Imp I-5. I believe it would sell out immediately given the general interest in the NY NH & H, and the activity on this thread. And while we're fantasizing, how about some of the heavy freight steam locos from the Maybrook division. Wouldn't that be cool. How many Big Boys, K -4s and Js do we need. I'd love to see an L class Santa Fe. Nothing more imposing than a ten coupled behemoth with a long drag. Ah well, maybe Christmas wishes will come true.
Yes, Tom, I would like to see some more scale-sized New Haven O gauge steam engine models. Weaver has made an I-4 Pacific and an I-5 Hudson, but I would like to have the latter from MTH. And Lionel made a USRA Mountain type that the New Haven had. The other New Haven steamer types which, as far as I know, have not yet been made as accurate scale-sized models are Atlantics, Moguls, Consolidations, Mikados and Santa Fes. Given the cost and market for such products these days, I don't expect the larger types to be produced - but maybe the Atlantics and Moguls.
MELGAR
FireOne posted:I have developed a strange love for New Haven, but please don't tell my western railroads (DRG&W, Santa Fe & Western Pacific). Can't explain it.
Chris S.
One good reason is, objectively speaking, the McGuiness livery of New Haven trains is drop dead gorgeous.
Arnold, I didn't know that, but anything that sounds like Guinness must be good.
Chris S.
Arnold D. Cribari posted:FireOne posted:I have developed a strange love for New Haven, but please don't tell my western railroads (DRG&W, Santa Fe & Western Pacific). Can't explain it.
Chris S.
One good reason is, objectively speaking, the McGuiness livery of New Haven trains is drop dead gorgeous.
I totally agree, Arnold... but I have to admit that the dark green and gold is really growing on me too.
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briansilvermustang posted:
Atlas #519
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