Buy/Make Anything Cool Lately (Tinplate Version)

Arne,

  I was reading from the bottom up and when I saw the craftsmanship, I said to myself, "This must be Arne's work!"

Very nice.

Tom

@Pete in Kansas posted:

This was a total waste of time but........ now that I'm retired I've got plenty, so I redid an Ives standard gauge switch.  I think it will look cool on a layout when I finally get to building one.

Never a waste of time if you enjoyed doing it!

Jim

@Arne posted:

I've been planning a Bing layout for a long time. Only material from the last 5 years should be used for this, i.e. only from the area 1928-32.

This also includes all the plain buildings. A lot is already there, but some has been on the search list for a long time.

The rare company office has been on the list for a long time, but it's almost impossible to find.

Now there was a ruin to be found on Ebay, just the bare building.

So everything had to be rebuilt.

Pyramid shaped roof

Chimney pipe folded

Canopy made of self-made corrugated iron

For this purpose, press jaws were manufactured for a combination machine

Base itself deep pressed

A tool suitable for a workshop press was built for this purpose

Supports for the canopy

Chimney head soldered in three parts

Tinplate work finished, only paint is missing.

Arne

Wow - that's crazy cool. Never thought about using my 3 in one as a forming tool - are you using thin gauge tinplated steel for all these parts - what gauge? Really like your formed dome too, great work. Can you do some clerestory roofs for me??

Jim

About a month ago I made a post about the completion of a series of three New Marx C&NW cattle cars.  Recently I was able to complete another series of three cars (addendum: well not quite...see Arne's post below) - the Bing made-for-the-American-market single dome tank cars.

  To the best of my knowledge the Peerless Tank Line, was the only one ever featured in any of the American market Bing catalogs.

  As noted in the catalog cut, the tank has a brass cap which unscrews so you can fill the car with liquid if you wish.  The other two cars are the United States Leather Company and the S.P.C.A.L. Oil car.  I've owned the Peerless and the Leather Co. cars for some time.  Several years ago I found the sad remains of an S.P.C.A.L. car and ever since I've been trying to find  a good example.  I was able to do this recently so now there are three.

One more, Bing 10357 with US couplers. Made 1912 - 1920.

Arne

Arrrrrgggghhhhh!!!! Just when I thought the hunt was over!  Thanks, Arne - now let's see how long it takes me to find this one. (I thought the S.P.C.A.L. car was minimal but, speaking by contrast, it has an over abundance of markings/identification).

Won  a beater set of American Flyer streamlined Red passenger cars the other day.  They are a bit rough and you can see a couple of the decals have already flaked off.  That said I'm happy to have them and will see if they can be cleaned up at all without losing more paint lol.  I think I have a couple of six wheel trucks for the last car as well so that should be ok too.  I have a nicer set of Chrome cars and an equally rough Green set so these guys are a welcome addition to the fleet.

Several months ago I finished another diorama and submitted a photograph of it to the Train Collector's Quarterly.  I just received an e-mail from TCA news announcing the availability of the July 2022 issue in digital form to members of the TCA.  When I opened the e-mail I was delighted to discover that picture made the July cover.

Outstanding Robert.

Steve

Robert S. Butler :  What a fantastic diorama, congratulations on it being selected for TCA Quarterly.  I can recognize the AF pre-war 0 gauge box cars and the staging of the figure's and loads is really imaginative.  I can't hardly believe a MARX loco and train on the cover of TCA Quarterly...including some 6" cars (C&S refer and SF Mid-States oil) can be seen !!  I can't identify the loco in the center however, would you mind telling us in a future post?  The station is really amazing it is German I will bet although I do not know the brand.  

Super job, Congratulations again and Best Wishes

Don

Steve and Don - Thanks for the compliments. Don, the engine is a Flyer #3195 - the tender is an AF tender I borrowed from one of my clockwork sets - the reason being I wanted a tender that was something other than black.  The station is Bing ca 1912. The front two baggage cars are Flyer and the rearmost is the Hafner Adams baggage car. The guy scratching his head and worrying about the dumped baggage is a heavily modified Plasticville milkman which I reworked several years ago.

  The motivation for the setting was this Fred Harvey Postcard of the AT&SF station in El Paso from many years ago.

  The hardest part of making the diorama was the baggage carts.  I figured I could find something simple on e-bay I could use - I figured wrong.  So, I purchased 4 Berkshire Valley baggage cart kits and built them assembly line fashion.

They are very detailed and did take a lot of time but they were worth the effort and I have plans for them in other settings.

Robert - thanks for identifying the #3195 as I had not been able to do that myself, although I did look it up after I learned the number.  The tender idea was really good, that splash of color really shows up in the picture.  Great work on those baggage carts they really contribute to the picture.  Great job for sure !

Don

Indeed; it's nice to see some scale stuff mixed in with tinplate. Works very well together... 👍 🙂

Mark in Oregon

I think the picture of the El Paso station above is El Paso Union Depot.  As I  recall, it was used by Southern Pacific, EP&SW, EP&NW, and Nat. Rys of Mexico.  I think it is still used by AMTRAK.  The AT&SF depot, as I remember, was a few blocks south.

Thanks Logan.  All the card says is it is the Union Station and the back says it is a Fred Harvey Card so I just assumed it had to be connected with the AT&SF.

Outstanding work Mr Butler!

@Fatman posted:

Outstanding work Mr Butler!

Agreed. 👍

This arrived yesterday:

1979 first edition. Dunno if this is considered a "good" book, but it's got some great color photos...and their writing style is fun to read; informative, with a touch of humor. 🙂

Mark in Oregon

PS: in the acknowledgements, our own Carey Williams is singled out for his collection and knowledge...as an 18 year old!  😁

Hello tinplaters,

I was pleasantly surprised by the mail yesterday when I received my new Ives 25 locomotive. Same version as the last 4 band 25 I had but much cleaner paint wise. Wouldn’t we all like to look this good at 113….The 11 tender also pictured came with the loco. Even though it’s not exactly the correct tender, it substitutes well. Good enough for me! Take a look:

                                                 Trainfam

Although I have posted pics in my "Home thread " the well camouflaged yet MEGA Tinplate Photos and Videos thread https://ogrforum.com/...te-photos-and-videos

I think it only fair it bleed onto this one too

My newly found Post War Walkers-Riemsdijk 0-6-0 Controlled Clockwork Locomotive .. this one was found here in Australia of all places and becomes the 3rd JVR Clockwork loco in my collection , the other two being much rarer 4-4-4 variants

Brief history of the man can be found here ... https://ogrforum.com/...7#148957538627772967

Oh and Tinplate guys .. Please think about bookmarking that thread .. the weekly updates topic posts  were such a huge part of many tinplaters days , and when the thread got "banished " to the bowels of the forum ( in the pictures section)  it was ( in my opinion anyway) a pretty harsh buzzkill to many of the once happy participants ... so now over time it has evolved into a MEGA THREAD of all things tinplate ( much as this thread is )

@Strummer: Great book, their forte seems to be a greater discussion of the various items that they choose to include than Greenberg's volumes do and I agree they have great pictures.  Now that you have Vol 3,  all you need is 1-6 for the set .

@TrainFam : Beautiful Ives 25 thanks for posting.  One question however, (I know little about early Ives) why does the name on the tender read L.V.E. ?  Is that some sort of abbreviation for Ives?

Fatman - I read about your Walker - Riemsdijk in your Tinplate post...the mechanism is amazing.  Fabulous find!

Best Wishes

Don

@Don McErlean posted:

@TrainFam : Beautiful Ives 25 thanks for posting.  One question however, (I know little about early Ives) why does the name on the tender read L.V.E. ?  Is that some sort of abbreviation for Ives?

I believe that L.V.E. is an abbreviation for Limited Vestibule Express, which I seem to recall shows up on some of the early Ives coaches and baggage cars. 

@Nation Wide Lines :  Thanks, candidly I had forgotten all about "Limited Vestibule Express" ... I am sure you are correct.

Don

@Nation Wide Lines, @Don McErlean

Nation wide is correct, it does stand for Limited Vestibule Express. This 11 tender with LVE on it would make since for most Ives sets as a vast majority were passenger trains. The real number 25 tender also said LVE on the sides. This is interesting when you consider that Ives also included the 25 in their freight sets, which would not really be an LVE train because it’s more of a freight train then passenger.

                                               Trainfam

@Robert S. Butler--Very nice looking diorama! Looks like you may need to hire more workers to keep up with the high volume of freight business on your layout!

Tom

@Arne posted:

I've been planning a Bing layout for a long time. Only material from the last 5 years should be used for this, i.e. only from the area 1928-32.

This also includes all the plain buildings. A lot is already there, but some has been on the search list for a long time.

The rare company office has been on the list for a long time, but it's almost impossible to find.

Now there was a ruin to be found on Ebay, just the bare building.

So everything had to be rebuilt.

Pyramid shaped roof

Chimney pipe folded

Canopy made of self-made corrugated iron

For this purpose, press jaws were manufactured for a combination machine

Base itself deep pressed

A tool suitable for a workshop press was built for this purpose

Supports for the canopy

Chimney head soldered in three parts

Tinplate work finished, only paint is missing.

Arne

Very nice!! I too enjoy doing fabrications like this

PIcked up this Nonpareil floor train PRR boxcar. Not the nicest piece but the Bing logos(which I’ve learned are there b/c the model/tooling were acquired from Bing, from what I’ve read?

I also have the nonpareil gondola, 99 Steamer and tender.

Photos below show the Bing markings-but differ

The famous “G.B.N” in the lower Left.Gebrüder Bing
For Gebrüder Bing of Nuremberg(Bing Brothers)

Here’s the difference, the photo below says “C.B.N” in the lower left

Factory error? Kinda find that hard to asay me is the case considering how often GBN was marked on an item via embossing, stamping, lithography, etc...

I Know that Karl Bub, due to anti-German sentiment abroad, Anglicized the company name to Carl Bub in the United Kingdom. Instead of “KBN”, there was a “CBN” on his trains.

any ideas? Is this how all of the Nonpariel. pRR boxcars look?

help appreciated

I redid an auction buy Lionel #8,  It was a red repaint so I stripped it and did it better. I had done one of these years ago and sold it so it was time for a new one,

@Pete in Kansas very nicely done! What brand paint did you use? Will you make any matching passenger cars or will you pull freight?

Wow !!! Fantastic job.

Amazing what paint ant talent can do!

Looks like a completely different engine - I love it!

@Rich Wiemann posted:

@Pete in Kansas very nicely done! What brand paint did you use? Will you make any matching passenger cars or will you pull freight?            I used Rustoleum thinned with lacquer thinner and sprayed with an airbrush at 40PSI. The lettering is decals. I am making some small 300 series cars to go with it but haven't decided on the exact paint scheme yet. I already have a set in the traditional black and orange.  I want something a little more colorful but not mostly white like MTH a few years ago. If you look at some of my other posts you'll see that I have recently done some American Flyer Standard gauge passenger cars in various New Haven paint schemes. I like New haven and I like to paint so I've done quite a few cars and locomotives.

Looks terrific...and it's nice to see I'm not the only one with a work area that is a little..."cluttered"...(?) 😁

Mark in Oregon

@StevefromPA posted:

I Know that Karl Bub, due to anti-German sentiment abroad, Anglicized the company name to Carl Bub in the United Kingdom. Instead of “KBN”, there was a “CBN” on his trains.

That is absolutely wrong, the anti-German mood only came after the First World War (1914-1918).

However, the locomotives with the CBN were built before 1910.

In many old documents the name Karl Bub was written as Carl Bub.

In 1902 there was a writing reform in Germany, whereby the C was replaced by the K in many names and places. But that took several years. With Karl Bub, the name with a C can still be found until about 1910/11.

Here a example. A DRGM Deutsches Reichs Gebrauchsmuster, it´s like a patent. From 1905, Carl Bub with C.

Translation.

252518 DRGM Carl Bub 08.05.1905 B. 27771 Switch points for toy railroad tracks, with hinged tongues each made of a piece of sheet metal, which forms the tongue and shifting arm

Belongs to Bub No 89.

Arne

CBN you say .....

@Pete in Kansas posted:

I redid an auction buy Lionel #8,  It was a red repaint so I stripped it and did it better. I had done one of these years ago and sold it so it was time for a new one,

I've been busy since this shot was taken, below is the first of the passenger cars to go with this #8.  It's a slightly different scheme than a real McGinnis scheme but it is much more colorful than black and orange. And I already have a set of black and orange NH cars so these have to be different.

@Pete in Kansas posted:

I've been busy since this shot was taken, below is the first of the passenger cars to go with this #8.  It's a slightly different scheme than a real McGinnis scheme but it is much more colorful than black and orange. And I already have a set of black and orange NH cars so these have to be different.

I also got a second #8 and cars in the same auction and it has become a New York Central #8.  In progress

Finished

Both together

I also happened to be working on an American Flyer 4000 at the same time as the NYC #8,  What a difference in size for basically an 0-4-0 electric.   see below.

Pete,

Your killin' me. Fantastic work. Such an inspiration.

Charlie

My uncle gave me something really cool for the train layout this weekend.  So before I post the picture, I want to say to all, and especially the moderators, that I am not trying to make a political statement here. 

My uncle, through his daughter-in-law, happened to be featured in an ad campaign in Wisconsin.  The billboard shows a picture of my uncle, standing in front of his barn.  He received this model billboard, through his daughter-in-law, from the Adams billboard company, which was featuring the ad campaign on their billboards.

I think the model billboard is neat!  The detail of the walkway in front of the sign, the Adams name in the lower left of the walkway, its overall weight (it will not tip over easily), and the fact that the sign can easily be changed out. 

NWL

NWL,

Are the red cars AF 1621 and 1622?

Thanks

Charlie