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Mark, I wish the 1309 was in Ohio!

At least Cleveland is close.

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Ross club meeting and running.

Bob running an Erie triplex 2-8-8-8-2 by MTH.

Skykomish.

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Gerry started with a PRR S-2 6-8-6 (Alco models 1977) but it 'threw a rod pin' so a PRR J-1 2-10-4 (Westside models, 1977) was 'subbed'.

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Erie Triplex at Hillyard's water tower.

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Skykomish.

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Mark brought his diesels.

Another 'meet' at Skykomish.

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Erie Triplex at Tye.

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Mark's diesels at Skykomish.

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Marias pass.

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Bob's doing some 'yard' work.  GN C-1 0-8-0 switcher (Tenshodo, 1971)

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PRR J-1 on Seattle's 'incoming' track.

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PRR S-2 6-8-6 steam turbine PM.

An Alco model imported in 1977.

I painted it in 2017 and installed a TCS 1517 decoder and lights in 2020.

Yesterday, one of the side rod 'bolts' came loose.

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The side rods on the other side needed to be aligned before fixing the 'problem' side.

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The driver retaining plate and gear box cover had to be removed before aligning the side rods.

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Alco used 'scale' side rod bolts so I had to use a small flat screw driver to 'seat' the bolt.

I saw in my 'folder' for this engine that this same 'bolt' has come loose in the past so I put a dab of PVA (carpenter's glue) glue in the threaded hole before screwing in the 'bolt'.

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Bench test good.  Will leave the glue dry before doing a 'road test'.

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Very cool engine being a steam turbine.  PRR only made one of them.

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Since a turbine doesn't 'chuff', I have to turn the 'chuff' off and use the 'blow down' to simulate the 'proper' noise.

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NMRA MCR DIV 7 monthly meeting pictures.

This month we were at Mt. Carmel's American Legion Hall.

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Awards.

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Sam Swanson's presentation on modeling using prototype photos.

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Contest awards.

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The 'usual' 2 layout visits after the meeting.

Rick Crumrine's PRR.

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All 'home made' turnouts.

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David Keith's backyard riding layout.

Video:

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Can't beat 'trains' and 'planes' on the same day

My 93" F4U Corsair.

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New deliveries.  BAD NEWS, GOOD NEWS, BAD NEWS, GOOD NEWS, ETC.   

I purchased 2 engines about 2 weeks ago.

Good news:

Virginian EL-2B set of electrics imported by Alco models in 1980.

As a 2 unit set they they were the largest set of electrics.  As a single unit GN's W-1 was the largest electric unit made.



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BAD news.

Put them on the track and heard the motors running but not the 'drive system'

Removed the 'shells' figuring the universal or rubber coupling was damaged, etc.

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Found out that the thrust gear and the drive gear were cracked on all of them and one thrust gear was missing.

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bummer.

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Good news:

I was going to return them but, after doing a lot of 'googling' until 2 AM, I found gears for them.

NWSL said they make the gears for this specific engine.

Seeing how they were made for this engine, it was easy to deduce that these engines (all 150 made) had problems.

I got emails from a owner that says his are brass gears.

I'm guessing customers complained about the noise from the gears so they changed over to nylon.

Only, after 42 years, the nylon gears cracked.

I believe NWSL has 'changed hands' plus, after 40 years, what's the chance that they have them in stock.

I contacted the seller and he said if I can't get the gears then I can return the engines.

The seller is Ray at IEHOBBIES.  My first contact with this seller but a very nice person.

A nice selection of engines.

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While waiting to see if the gears were in stock, I did research on the engine for colors and decals.



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Good news:

Black is easy to match.

Unusual in that each side of the engine has a different 'lettering'.

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Bad news:

Decals for this engine is 'spotty' and not easy to find plus each set of decals isn't exactly the bright yellow that, when new, the engines appear to have.

Good news.

I contacted Minuteman who sells scalecoat paints and he provided a couple colors of yellow that I should be able to use, or mix/match to get close to the decal color.

I, also, was able to  purchase several different sets of decals needed for this engine.



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Good news.

NWSL actually had the gears in 'stock' and arrived today

The new ones are black.

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Stock numbers.

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More bad news:

Noticed that the nylon universals were, also, cracked so those need to be replaced.

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Figured I use some brass universals in my 'stock'.  This will be updated later as 'bad news'.

Needed to drill out the shaft using a #41 drill bit.

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Main gear put on one of the 'tower gear' sets.

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Both put on just using a small hobby hammer to gently, friction fit, the gears on the shafts.

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I put oil on all the truck gears.  This will be updated later on, again as 'bad news'.

Order of removal due to wires on the truck frames that touch the wheel's 'tires': (can see the wires at the top of the truck).

After removing the driver retaining plate, the wheels sets are removed and then the truck frame and then the perpenticular shaft with the work gears can be removed.

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I put a flat spot for the universal set screw.

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Insure the thrust washer is on before fitting on the gear.

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One of the gears was missing the gear and the thrust washer was missing so I used a couple  Kadee insulation washers.

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Appearance before applying the new gears.

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Small hammer to fit gears on shafts.

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New brass (female side) universal.

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The female universal side had to be drilled out for the 'ball joint' side of the universal.

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Yup, bad news.

I put the engine on the track to test it and it was 'shorting'.

Diagnosed that the new brass universal has to be plastic as each gear tower is isolated, electrically.

Good news:

Fortunately, I had these in my 'stock'.  I needed 2  sets and had 2 sets.

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FINALLY, all together.

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4 screws secures the driver retaining plates.

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It runs!  It is noisy but that will be my 'electric' sound!

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After getting both to operate, they are quieter in 'one' direction.

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I tapped a set screw on the NWSL female universal.

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Bad news:

I found a lot of 'crud' on shafts and gears so I had to disassemble and clean them.

The shaft for the thrust gear on the 2nd engine would not move so I remove it from the gear box and found this!

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An L piece of metal stock used to support the gear box when putting the new gear on the shaft.

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Each shaft is a different length so the steel L support worked nicely.

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Bad news.

Noticed a lot of old grease actually turned into a 'varnish' like substance so I disassembled the trucks to clean them.

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Before: bottom.  Though not usually best to use sharp objects on gears I used a small flat screwdriver to clean the bottom of the gears plus a tooth brush.

After: top.

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The 'worms' were, also, bad.

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Note the end comes off and there is, also, a thrust washer.

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All cleaned.

NOTE: each end support has one flat spot.  Not sure, yet, if it goes 'up' or 'down' but I'm guessing it should be 'down' (opposite of what the picture shows).

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The plastic female universal had a wide gap and the male side universal was vibrating due to the slop so I wrapped a piece of electrical tape around the female universal that prevents the male side from vibrating.

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Putting a piece of electrical tape over the male universal side, seems, to work better.

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I've only got one unit's gear boxes cleaned of all the old grease.

Have to do the 2nd one, yet.

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New deliveries and Ross club meeting pictures.

Ore dock.

My ore dock that I started in the 1980's isn't finished yet.

Superstructure is done but...

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The sides and chutes are not done.

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Purchased 2 Walther's ore docks to see if I can use some parts.

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The chutes are nicely done.  As one can see, there are a lot of 'cross members' on the chutes that I wasn't too keen on making.

I need about 120 and each kit has 18.

Would be nice if I could get a bunch 'printed' .

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These are the sides.

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It appears that the 'sides' aren't going to look as good as the 'sides' that I made from wood but the chutes should look nice with some weathering, etc.   I've only completed this one part of the 'sides'.

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The rest of the parts I won't need.

Here's the supports for the 'bins'.

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The concrete base.  Mine is all wood pilings.

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The 'lead' to the ore dock.

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plans.

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It appears the chutes are the correct size.

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Ross club meeting.  7 attended.

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Only 2 'ran trains': the rest socialized.

Gerry running a NYC '20th century limited'.  The Niagara lost 'steam' so a Dreyfus Hudson was 'added (MTH cast boiler/tender engine imported in 2009. Has smoke).

'By passing' Seattle's freight yard.

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Joe dispatching.

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Bob running a NP Z-8 4-6-6-4 imported by Sunset in 2013.

Hillyard.

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Whitefish.

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Hillyard.

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Functioning BLI water tower.

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Tumwater canyon trestle.

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Wilmar.

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Chumstick canyon trestle.

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Havre.

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Wilmar.

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Tumwater canyon trestle.

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Seattle's roundhouse.

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Main 'throat' to Seattle's freight yard plus passenger track 'bypass'.

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@samparfitt, Wow, I do not chime in often however I read your thread daily and all I can say, you are a “magician” with your ability to repair these engines with serious issues, I love your well detailed analysis of the issues and your professional approach to the ultimate repair. Wow, and your group of friends operating this fantastic layout is fun for your OGR Forum friends. I love those Virginian diesels and would imagine they are tremendous pullers, stump pullers. Question, are you friends with Bill Brammlage in Cincinnati? If so, I plan to visit him in the near future. Thank you very much for your wonderful contributions to this forum, it’s always fun to review. Your friend in Tennessee. Happy Railroading Everyone

Sam -

Bill Bramalage was one of the Div. 7 layout visits after the January 2020 meeting. You have photos from that layout visit in the Feb. 2020 OilCan (page 10 or 11). I suspect you have those photos and more posted here if someone wanted to scroll back to 2020 or maybe search the thread for his name. I believe this was Bill's first time being open after one of our meetings.

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Thanks, Pam.

Yup, I found a folder on him.  Very nice 3-rail layout.  Also, a picture of Jim from OGR before he 'passed away'.

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Ross club meeting pictures.

Two people brought their diesels to run; the rest ran 'stuff' on the layout.

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Mark's diesel at Waverly.

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Milwaukee S-3 4-8-4 by BLI with Walther's passenger cars.

Skykomish.

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Havre.

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Bob running the Erie Triplex 2-8-8-8-2 by MTH.

Chumstick canyon trestle.

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Nick's B&O diesels.

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Marias pass.

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Gerry running the Milwaukee S-3.

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Chumstick canyon trestle.

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Erie west of St. Paul.

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Wilmar.

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Seattle's turntable.

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Seattle's freight yard throat.

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GNRW OPS session.

Usual start with pizza.

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Good to see 'young uns'.

UP E-6 passenger train at Tye operated by Bob.

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SF E-1's (BLI) passenger train (also BLI) operated by John.

Waverly.

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Ben operating an SP AC-9 2-8-8-4 (Westside) freight drag meet with UP E-6 passenger train at Havre.

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DJ 'consisting' his two diesels that he brought with him.

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Dave operating a DM&IR M-4 2-8-8-4 Yellowstone (MTH) freight drag.

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Nate operating a NH EP-5 electric (Rapido).

Marias pass.

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Paul doing dispatcher duties.

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DJ's freight drag departing Seattle's freight yard.

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DM&IR at Wilmar.

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Ben's SP AC-9 entering the 'incoming' tracks at Seattle's freight yard.

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NYC Dreyfus Hudson (MTH) passenger train departing the passenger yard.

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Dave's DM&IR freight drag at Seattle.

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A 'meet' at Skykomish.

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Ben operating the GN W-1 C-D-D-C electric (custom brass); the largest single engine electric made.

The leading/trailing trucks were, also, powered with 5,000 total HP.

Wilmar.

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Nate operating the Rock Island E-6's (BLI).

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Wilmar.

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Orange 'cremesicle' time.

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Post GNRW Ops PM.

The SF E-1 A-B (both powered and by BLI) was pulling a 13 lighted passenger train and it kept 'tripping' the circuit breakers (CB).

If 'memory serves me correctly, it was just this train and it was, again today, tripping the CB on level track.

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The CB's default to 2.0 amps.....

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so I soldered a 'jumper wire' across J6 3,4 to allow 3 amps but the same results occurred.

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I put the D&RGW L-131 2-8-8-2 on the passenger train.  This is a PFM model from 1977 but has been re-motored so max amps is about 0.5 amps.  No problem with this engine and the lighted cars.

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I ran the SF E-1's with a 22 freight car train and no 'tripping' of the CB's for about 600'.

I ran the D&RGW engine and passenger train to Marias pass siding.   The siding is around 40' long so I can have this train plus the SF E-1 freight train pass each other while under 'load'.

I had both trains pass each other at Marias pass and no tripping of the CB's.

It appears that the BLI motors aren't as efficient as those I put in my steam engines.

I've had the PRR centipedes (BLI) also trip the CB's.

I've got other BLI engines (mostly steam) that I'll have to do further testing to see if it's all my BLI or just the diesels;  The steam being only one motor versus all the BLI diesels  that I have are multi-unit powered.

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No 'tripping' of CB's while both trains passed each other.

Even though the 22 freight cars doesn't put the same 'load' on the diesels, one would think the CB would 'trip' while both the diesel train and the steam passenger train was in the same 'block'!

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Post GNRW Ops PM (continued)

After putting another set of BLI diesels (UP E-6 A-B-B, 2 powered), and about 400' of running, the passenger train CB's shorted, again.

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The UP E-6 were 'placed' on a UP 16 passenger car set that were AHM cars from the 70's with no lights and the diesels worked fine.  I used the D&RGW L-131 to pull the Zephyr cars back to the passenger yard without any issues.

Presently no dual powered BLI diesels can run with the 13 light BLI passenger cars.

Also, I'll have to test the diesels pulling a more respectable load of freight cars of 35-45 cars.

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NYC Niagara 4-8-4 (imported by Nickel Plate products in 1977) PM.

This engine's drivers stopped 'driving'.

The rubber drive shaft was twisted and replaced.  Plus a piece of metal tubing was placed over that area to prevent any 'wobbling' since the distance from motor to gear box is rather long.

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The lead weight was resting on the drive shaft.  Used caulk to secure it.

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All 'better'!

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PRR E5A box cab electrics by BLI.

I'm getting a 'short' when this engine is placed on the track.

I removed each connector and the only connector that remove the 'short', when disconnected, was the decoder.

Emailed BLI on if they want to send me a new decoder or send the engine to them (it's under warranty).

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I've got 4 of these, now.  I'll have to test pulling the PRR passenger train with them as the centipedes, like the SF E-1's are causing shorts under a 'heavy' load.

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Diagnostics on the Circuit Breakers (CB's) tripping at the last OPS session.

There is a toggle in the Seattle's freight yard to switch from DCC to DC so this was a good spot to cut the 'wire' and insert the Volt meter using the AMP setting.

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There are two sets of diesels that are causing excessive current.

The first is the BLI  PRR centipedes (both units are powered).

Amp reading with just one unit is reasonable at .21 amps under 'load' (all are tested under load).

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Interesting how the AMP reading almost doubles when both units are tested!  If one unit is at .21 then two units should only be .42!

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Next test was the BLI SF E1 A-B units (both powered).

Testing one unit.

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Testing with both A-B units.  Not double but still a lot more than the expected .66 amps.

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Walther's SF PA A-B-B-A set (all powered and heavy).

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Considering 4 powered units versus the BLI's only 2 powered units, a respectable 1.09 amps.

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Testing with just 2 of the Walthers powered units...

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Only .53 amps.

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Tested the D&RGW L-131 2-8-8-2 (PFM with can motor installed)...

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Only .35 amps under 'load'.

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Brought the 14 BLI passenger cars with lights to the 'test' track.

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Surprised that was so low, even for LED's!

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Used the Walthers SF PA (one unit) to test amp draw....

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Resulting in only .29 amp draw under load.

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Used the BLI SF E1 A-B units to pull one yard track of 44 freight cars out of Seattle's yard.

Video:

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Departing Seattle's yard.

The CB did not trip departing the yard but, after getting on the 0.5% grade, the CB tripped once and the 'blue' LED 'flickered' a couple times indicating 'close' to a short.

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A 'draw bar' test of the 44 cars was 3.3 to 4 ounces.

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During a 'short' the right green LED goes off and a red LED appears in the center of the CB.

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'Road tested' for 950'.

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Although only one 'short', that was operating only one train.

The last OPS there were 11 in attendance so there were multiple trains on some 'boosters'.

Of the one command station and four boosters, 3 of them have 3 districts on them.  The boosters should be able to handle the 'load' since there is a 20 amp power supply plus each booster can go 'up to' 5 amps.

I'll have to increase some of the CB's to 3 amps soldering a 'jumper wire' between J6 3,4 and see if that 'works'!

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Had a couple cars derail.  There was a lot of gunk on the wheels.

Pre-cleaning.

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Post cleaning.

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Yesterday the Sunset NP Z-8 4-6-6-4 had trouble 'handling' only 22 cars so some 'canopy' glue was put on some of the drivers after cleaning them with alcohol.

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New deliveries:  C&NW E-4 4-6-4, GTW U-4B 4-8-4 and Virginian EL-2B electrics.

Purchased these because of they are 'multi-colored' engines.

C&NW E-4 4-6-4 imported by Nickel Plate products in 1975.

Seller did a nice job of 'double' wrapping the box.

First time I've bought from this dealer.

He has reasonable prices on a lot of engines.

https://resourcedrails.com/

TEST video:

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Bubble wrap and...

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clear plastic bag.

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Previously, bought the 'needed' decals for this engine.

I got good 'intel' on buying 'other' decals as there are no 'stream lined' decals for this steam engine.

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It appears this engine has 'sat in the box' for the last 47 years.

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Can motor will be installed along with a 'back head'.

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A little 'sparse' for details for 1975; NPP wasn't known for 'high end' products.

No coupler ever on the engine.

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Fortunately, 'stream lined' steam engines, usually, don't have a lot of 'piping' on the exterior.

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This is the painted version that I'll be duplicating.

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GTW U-4B 4-8-4 imported by Nickel Plate products in 1977.

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Another engine that appears to have 'sat in the box' for 45 years.

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Unusual motor arrangement in mounted above the drivers.

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Does have nice 'back head' detail.

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Decals previously purchased.  Again, got 'help' on which decals to purchase.

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3 version of what the engine will look like.

I'll, probably, use the first version listed.

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Virginian EL-2B electrics.

These came in 3-4 weeks ago and the gears had to be replaced due to 'cracking'.



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With the help of Gerry Albers sending me 'hard to get' decals and his friends advice on other decals I'm 'set' on nomenclature.

I've ordered Scalecoat paint for all 3 engines but it may take 3-6 weeks for delivery from Minuteman.

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FINALLY, Hopefully, CB shorts have been eliminated!

I turned off all the electronics and, then, soldered the 'jumper wire' at J6 3,4 on all the CB's to increase max amps from 2 to 3.

I never do any soldering while the electronics are 'on'.

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First I ran the BLI SF E-1 A-B, dual motor, set with the 44 freight cars and no shorts.

Then I ran the BLI PRR centipedes, dual motor, with the 44 freight cars and no shorts.

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Most of the shorts occurred in the 'Cascade' division of the layout where the 'usual' grade is about 0.5% except two places where it is around 1.0% for about 10 feet.

As seen in the picture, the departure from Seattle to Marias pass (Cascade division) is about a 16" rise over 200' (lower level to the middle level).

From Marias pass to St. Paul the rise is only about 8" over 200' (middle level to the upper level).

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The railroad was built to have electrics pull the trains through the Cascade division which would give more 'pulling power' over the 'hill'.

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The next and most severe test was to use the PRR centipedes pulling the 14 passenger cars on the mainline.

'Most severe' as 8 of the cars are the old Balboa brass cars where the trucks have a lot of friction and the cars are lighted with incandescent bulbs.

All seems to work well with no 'shorts'.

The one negative to increasing the amps is; most decoders are only 1-1.5 amps max and, should that be exceeded due to a bind, etc. in the engine, the CB's may not 'trip' in time to keep the 'smoke' from coming out of the decoders!

Video:

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Signaling system.

When 'powering up' the signals, about 160 feet 'down the line' I have to unplug/plug the 'Cat' cable to remove the red LED.

I'm guessing there is a 'voltage drop' but the 'reconnect' fixes it!

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Impressive: the Bachmann GG-1 was able to pull the 44 freight cars, although it was 'down hill'!

This is my 'layout test' engine; Just before any railroaders visit, I run this engine quickly at 99 MPH to test the mainline and passing sidings to insure all is 'good'.

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Ross club post meeting pictures.

NP Z-8 4-6-6-4 (Sunset models, 2013) at Seattle's turntable (Walthers 130').

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Bob operating the NP Z-8.

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DM&IR M-3 2-8-8-4 (MTH model with smoke plus smoking whistle, 2021).



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Mark cleaning the wheels on his diesels that he brought.

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D&GRW L-131 2-8-8-2 (PFM, 1977) passenger train (BLI cars) bypassing the Seattle's freight yard.

MMM: I forgot to put that GN W-1 electric back at Tye after an engineer wanted to 'run' it a few weeks ago.

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D&RGW L-131 at water tank (BLI functional tanks) at Wilmar.

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Bob 'engineering' the C&O H-8 2-6-6-6 (MTH in 2015, smoke) being held by a red signal at Glacier.

The NP Z-8 had 'traction' trouble last week so I added some 'canopy' glue to the drivers.

That worked great but I now need to fix 'electrical contact' on the tender so we used the H-8 for 'replacement'.

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D&GRW passenger train at Waverly.

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C&O H-8 at Wilmar.

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Nick brought his B&O diesels to pull a freight drag out of Seattle's freight yard.

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Bob (red shirt) just got back from a 'full size airplane' flyin at Oshkosh.  650,000 people and 12,000 planes!

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Gerry's D&RGW L-131 passenger train at Havre.

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Joe was kept busy!

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D&RGW L-131 bypassing Seattle's freight yard.

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Back home.

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B&O diesels west of St. Paul.

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Mark's diesels waiting for Nick's diesels to 'pass'.

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Mark's diesels at Skykomish.

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Nick's diesels at Tumwater canyon trestle.

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Ross meeting pictures.

Mark brought one of his diesels.

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Nick's diesel painted for the 'police force' with 'red/green' ditch lights.

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DM&IR 2-8-8-4 (MTH, 2021, cast metal boiler/tender) at Wilmar.

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The DM&IR 2-8-8-4 also has a smoking whistle.

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DM&IR at St. Paul.

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Skykomish.

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Gerry operating the GN W-1 C-D-D-C electric (Custom brass, 1976).

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Meet at Waverly.

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Joe's usual 'duties'.

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Wilmar.

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Waverly.

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Westside models, 1980.

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C&O 2-8-4, PFM, 1972.

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St. Paul's roundhouse.

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Seattle's yard. GN C-1 0-8-0 (Tenshodo, 1971)

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Earlier in the day went RC flying at the 'field'.

The farmer's corn is getting a 'little' high!

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