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Recently we started with a larger layout area using legacy.  We have a few engines, some tmcc and some legacy.  How do you make sure you aren’t frying the smoke units on engines that aren’t being used?  We have one tmcc grey 844 and even when you hit the center shut down button it still will start moving if you hit the throttle although without sound.  If the smoke isn’t turned off via remote the smoke comes out almost right away  which makes it seem like the smoke element was warm.  Additionally this engine started to be rather pathetic at smoke unless it’s at a crawl.  We have been taking it off for now when not in use

Do you typically need to turn the smoke off when on the track and not moving?  Are older tmcc different compared to legacy?

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Smoke units or not. It's a good idea to park trains on an isolated section where the hot wire to the track is on a toggle.

All Lionel engines are still powered when not in use on a track that's live. It's merely the sound that is off. Newer legacy models are no different although the lights will be off along with the sound.

Powering down storage tracks also prevents collisions in the event a turnout inadvertently gets thrown in the wrong direction, or a parked engine accidentally gets addressed.

Yards, sidings, storage tracks etc. All should be isolated from the main line (via a break in the center rail)  and on a separate toggle for power.

Note: only the center rail needs to be isolated. The outer rails can remain connected.

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I never part an unused locomotive on a powered track.  FWIW, there are some TMCC and early Legacy models that leave the smoke unit on, even when you did a proper shutdown.  I've never seen an RCMC or LCP2/3 equipped Legacy model leave the smoke on when shutdown, only the Early Legacy R4LC models.  The FEF is an example of one of those early Legacy models.  My sense is the smoke regulator is missing the command to shutdown even though the fan stops running.  That's also the sign that the regulator is likely to soon fail.

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Is the regulator some thing that is easy to replace? It smokes very well at crawl speed. It’s almost impossible to see when it’s going at a good pace, though.

There are no replacements for the smoke regulator, so if you have an early Legacy, you're out of luck.  For TMCC, you can rewire the smoke unit, replace the resistor, and run it directly from the R2LC to eliminate the regulator.

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