There are no visible screws so remove them like on a typical diesel. Help please!
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Most likely staked in place, so they are not removable. If it has a diecast truck block, the top frame and side frames are likely held in place with a single screw accessible after the motor is removed. If the frame is stamped steel or aluminum, you can't remove the side frames without ruining them. If replacing traction tires, just use an angled dental pick.
Jon G posted:Most likely staked in place, so they are not removable. If it has a diecast truck block, the top frame and side frames are likely held in place with a single screw accessible after the motor is removed. If the frame is stamped steel or aluminum, you can't remove the side frames without ruining them. If replacing traction tires, just use an angled dental pick.
Looks like I'll have to destroy them to get them off. Oh well, not a huge deal. I plan on replacing them anyway with more detailed ones.
The item in question is an MPC diesel where the die cast metal side frames are staked to a flat metal plate?
If so, you can file or grind away the boss that is upset to hold the side frame to the plate. The side frame can be reused by drilling the side frame to accept a screw.
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Jon
OK - to get back on point, judging by the photo and the question not going together:
Do you want to remove the truck side frames from the truck
- or remove the trucks from the locomotive frame?
The second one is done typically by removing the C-clip from the pivot (visible in photo)
The first one I can't help you with, as I am not familiar with the loco, but many here are. (Older metal trucks did typically have staked side frames; plastic ones were completely different.)
As D500 mentioned above, if you're simply trying to drop the trucks from the frame, just remove the C-clip from the truck stud poking through the frame.
The sideframes on your locomotive are molded as a single piece with the truck frame. Therefore, there is no "replacing them anyway with more detailed ones." If that's the case, you'll need to replace the entire motor truck.
Judging by your questions and the fact that it looks like one of the rear body mounting posts was broken while the shell was being removed, I'd guess that this is a first-time project. Before going further, you might want to carefully evaluate that what you're trying to do is even possible, before you wind up with a pile of unusable parts.
TRW
CWB got it.....No need to destroy the truck.
Grind off the stake just enough to get the side frame off. The metal is soft and will accept screws. Start with a small pilot hole and the screw will tap itself.
That looks like a later version with the can motors in the trucks. What exactly are you trying to do? If you want to drop the trucks, just remove the C-clip from the bolster pin and the truck will drop right out, you'll just have to disconnect the wiring. As far as physically disassembling the trucks, I'll have to defer to someone else.
Since the plastic truck w/DC motors is so easy to disassemble I'm assuming it's the earlier metal truck.
The version shown has plastic truck assembly. Remove the 'c' clip and drop the truck down, then there are four screws that hold the sideframe assembly to the motor frame/truck frame.
Is the engine pictured MPC? I am unclear on when that style motor truck / electronics were introduced.
So it's not a MPC engine... it's LTI. Plastic trucks and can motors mounted therein. Pulled a Service Station Special.
Jon