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Now that I'm mostly satisfied with what I have in O gauge, I've been expanding my model railroading interests to more obscure territory. Thanks to TM's video from 2002, I've recently had a return interest in Lionel's prewar OO gauge line. Whether it's my love for Lionel Hudsons, or just how wonderfully detailed and cute they are, its a niche line I think deserves much more credit.

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But I do have a few questions about Lionel OO, specifically going prices for certain products and operating characteristics:

I've seen a few sets and even carrying case sets sold around, but I know they're quite hard to find, especially the latter. What going prices do these tend to reach? The one of most interest is set 0080 with the scale 001E Hudson, the 4 freight cars and with an oval of 3-rail track.

I know Lionel made original track for these trains to run on, but finding track that doesn't have its bakelite roadbed warped today is extremely hard to find. Do current manufacturers make compatible track for these trains to run on? Either 3-rail or 2-rail? (Since Lionel offered both types back then)

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If you want a third rail for On3 you will have to lay the center rail yourself. Not that hard really. Sets with carrying cases will be very expensive. They were used by salesmen to demonstrate the product. 

It would be simpler to look for a two rail engine and go with On3 track. Also consider since the Hudson was a passenger engine look for some Scalecraft passenger cars. They are very detailed given the era they were made in.

 

Pete

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here  is a video of my Lionel OO layout I have built, I had for several years taken it to Trainfest in Milwaukee Wisconsin, even won an award for the layout when Classic Toy Trains editor told the show what they had on display, I would love to take it to York and have it running, but would need some help taking it out their to have it running for the show.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jeh6disGHM

 

I just noticed on Gargraves’ website the 3-Rail OO they have, which looks quite nice. 

The real question is did anyone other than Lionel offer any OO gauge equipment that operated on 3-Rail? This probably would be the real deciding factor to go either 2 or 3-Rail, unless the 3-Rail is more reliable operation (AC) over 2-Rail.

Tom, the Gargraves track is reasonably priced but is very high rail. Like they used the rail they use for their S gauge track to make it. OK if you want to just run trains  but not ideal if you want to run in a scale setting. On3 would be much better for that.

The baggage car pictured above is on Gargraves OO track.

Pete

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Gonna revive this thread as I also modeling in OO with a mix of Lionel and Scale Craft items.  I first started with 3 rail stuff as the 3 rail track better fits on my 4x7 layout.  But, the tight curves really restrict what you can run, especially passenger cars.  Yes track prices are high and 2 rail Lionel track is harder to find and is the one thats really prone to warpage.  Unless the 3 rail has been screwed down to tight on a past layout, its seldom warped but highly prone to chips and cracks in the brittle roadbed.  I did have some rails that were warped upwards at each end, but once the track was set up on a firm surface, a bit of pressure with a wood block seated the rails at the joint flat and eliminated the "warpage" it sort of had.   Gargraves is very much Hi rail in look and no switches are made that will mate with in.  On3 track for 2 rail works, or you can hunt for the older 2 rail track made by companies like Midlin, Tru-Scale, Mantua and Lionel.  I believe 2 rail switches from Tru Scale can be adapted to mate with Lionel 2 rail track, as could On3 with a wood roadbed under it.   Track is the huge hold up for many that want to model in OO, faster 3d printing in the future might fix this, making the ability to make tie strips quickly and fitting them with common code 100 or 125 rail.  The hope for any type of sectional track is hopeless at this time.   Did you ever get a start on a layout?    AD

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